Why Not fully back Kofi Annan and give peace a chance in Syria (411)
Hi again TT,
The above stats could be correct, I was talking of the break down of opinion among the people of Syria..
I do not know, If I am honest, how does the Regime in Bahrain/Saudi Arabia? Who knows...
Correct, The majority voted in favor..
I am not defending Assad or the regime, so she could be right..
I am not suggesting you are TT.. I only hope for a peaceful solution and no more Civilian death committed by either side.
no matter what Assad did or for that matter what the Rebels did, The INNOCENT civilians of all creed, Religion, Color or Nationality for that matter DO NOT deserve this..
Kind Regards
ttom500:
I think that you have the populations composition of Syria wrong. According to the CIA Country fact book it is the following.
Sunni..........74%
Shia and Alawite............16%
Christian...........10%
Jewish and other religions.....less than 1%
Est Population is 22,520,000 in 2012......that is full 6m more that was in Iraq in 2002. Keep it mind. We barely managed 16.6m Iraqi with a 150,000 US force deployment. Annan needs 200,000 peace keepers for Syria.
I think that you have the populations composition of Syria wrong. According to the CIA Country fact book it is the following.
Sunni..........74%
Shia and Alawite............16%
Christian...........10%
Jewish and other religions.....less than 1%
Est Population is 22,520,000 in 2012......that is full 6m more that was in Iraq in 2002. Keep it mind. We barely managed 16.6m Iraqi with a 150,000 US force deployment. Annan needs 200,000 peace keepers for Syria.
The above stats could be correct, I was talking of the break down of opinion among the people of Syria..
ttom500:
If that population breakdown is correct. How Assad could get a the recent majority vote on the Syrian constitution with only 16% of the country (Shia and Alawite).
If that population breakdown is correct. How Assad could get a the recent majority vote on the Syrian constitution with only 16% of the country (Shia and Alawite).
I do not know, If I am honest, how does the Regime in Bahrain/Saudi Arabia? Who knows...
ttom500:
Here are the numbers of recent Syrian Constitution vote.
14.5m are eligdible to vote in Syria
7.49m (89%) voted for the new Constitution
753,000 (9%) voted against the new Constitution
They had a protest vote of blank ballots
of 132,000 (1.3%)
Here are the numbers of recent Syrian Constitution vote.
14.5m are eligdible to vote in Syria
7.49m (89%) voted for the new Constitution
753,000 (9%) voted against the new Constitution
They had a protest vote of blank ballots
of 132,000 (1.3%)
Correct, The majority voted in favor..
ttom500:
Even Hillary Clinton called this vote a "travesty". No way could Assad get the Sunni 74% majority to vote for his Constitution in such numbers. After 7 months of civil war. No way.
Even Hillary Clinton called this vote a "travesty". No way could Assad get the Sunni 74% majority to vote for his Constitution in such numbers. After 7 months of civil war. No way.
I am not defending Assad or the regime, so she could be right..
ttom500:
So you have major government corruption inside Syria protecting Assad. Keeping him in power. So sure Putin wants a Yemen plan for another vote. It will be like this one. But it will stop the civil war. This Constitution vote did not. It only gave it fuel.PS I am not CIA...but I do use their reference materials. It is some of the best.
So you have major government corruption inside Syria protecting Assad. Keeping him in power. So sure Putin wants a Yemen plan for another vote. It will be like this one. But it will stop the civil war. This Constitution vote did not. It only gave it fuel.PS I am not CIA...but I do use their reference materials. It is some of the best.
I am not suggesting you are TT.. I only hope for a peaceful solution and no more Civilian death committed by either side.
no matter what Assad did or for that matter what the Rebels did, The INNOCENT civilians of all creed, Religion, Color or Nationality for that matter DO NOT deserve this..
Kind Regards
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Hi TT,
I have no interest in Assad nor his Government, in my personal opinion no leader deserves the title of President/Leader unless their position is backed by a Majority vote of the population. Nor would I agree with a take over by Rebels who DID not have the majority vote/backing.
In my humble opinion to back either side is wrong, regardless of who is doing the backing... The losses are Human losses this means that civilians who may have NO interest in either side being killed by both sides.
The Rebels are drastically divided on whether to further the arm struggle, some DO NOT want intervention at all, whilst other (Rebels) do. And by admission of the West, there appears to be a 3rd party involved and the West is wary of who the 3rd party might be.
So now we have a situation where Civilians are being killed by the Regime, The Rebels, this 3rd party and anybody supplying Arms etc to either side. Whilst in the middle and escaping to ANYWHERE possible are the civilians, the pawns in this bloody awful mess..
My background TT, is I am a student of M.E. history studies, I have written on the subject and was, and am a Human & Civil Rights campaigner, on subjects such as Native American rights, world Aboriginal Rights and Middle East affairs among others.
Kind Regards
I have no interest in Assad nor his Government, in my personal opinion no leader deserves the title of President/Leader unless their position is backed by a Majority vote of the population. Nor would I agree with a take over by Rebels who DID not have the majority vote/backing.
In my humble opinion to back either side is wrong, regardless of who is doing the backing... The losses are Human losses this means that civilians who may have NO interest in either side being killed by both sides.
The Rebels are drastically divided on whether to further the arm struggle, some DO NOT want intervention at all, whilst other (Rebels) do. And by admission of the West, there appears to be a 3rd party involved and the West is wary of who the 3rd party might be.
So now we have a situation where Civilians are being killed by the Regime, The Rebels, this 3rd party and anybody supplying Arms etc to either side. Whilst in the middle and escaping to ANYWHERE possible are the civilians, the pawns in this bloody awful mess..
My background TT, is I am a student of M.E. history studies, I have written on the subject and was, and am a Human & Civil Rights campaigner, on subjects such as Native American rights, world Aboriginal Rights and Middle East affairs among others.
Kind Regards
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ali110: Kofi Annan Got married wth a Chiness and making some fake watches
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Iseek: Sorry HSD, I ran out of space..
Who Knows?
I agree to a point, the fact that the regime is and can be capable of killing, However the rebels are and will also. And as of course you have said we do not know who the Rebels are
Yep, GREAT NOW I have that tune in my head since reading this post.. HA HA..
Kind Regards
Who Knows?
I agree to a point, the fact that the regime is and can be capable of killing, However the rebels are and will also. And as of course you have said we do not know who the Rebels are
Yep, GREAT NOW I have that tune in my head since reading this post.. HA HA..
Kind Regards
Thank you for deep going replies to my posts Iseek
You sure got a lot knowledge and capable of analysing the situation from several corners, and are sure good at staying sharp on your views. All respect from me because of this
Still I will keep thinking that "Just Give Peace a chance" Does not work on Syrian situation, and Assad got to go in one way or another and if the international community, leaving syrian people on their own faiths ... ugly history will happen a gain and what happened to freedom seekers in Iraq in the 90,s GOP war on Iraq, will happen a gain in Syria... and as Saddam succeded killing off as many human beings as he wanted to,before the whole rebelion was over and out ... Syria will suffter the same, and Assad,s savages will wash off the blood from the streets and Assad and his family will be "in" again as being modern and so on becuase of buying expensive fasion stuff for his wife!
Back then people of Iraq really bleived that America wanted to support their seek of freedom, and all of sudden the same people were left to savage dogs of Saddam, and the rest of the story you know...
Instead of thinking "give peace a chance"... Think: Never Again!!!
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Hi HSD, Thanks for coming back,
Thank you, for kind comments,
I guess I am just an old Hippy type (at Heart) looking for peace everywhere , I don’t know. I have been told I am somewhat idealistic in a way and perhaps that is true..
This is it HSD, you have it Bro, Exactly that is my big fear, AS we have both said before either way the Civilians suffer.. I have to agree also if Assad has no backing by the people, then he HAS to go 4 sure!
Despite the charges levelled towards me I am not anti-West, Anti-American or anything like that, I as you can imagine, HSD, just seek to explain the plight of the civilian population, often forgotten about in such situations as Syria.
I know I am leaving myself open to a bashing in this; but I honestly believe the situation would be different if President Obama was in his second term.. Now I know you might argue against this, But I believe he is a good man, who had Fantastic plans for his country and the M.E. etc, but he is bound by the chains of opposition in Congress, which I think is such a great shame… Sorry If I may have offended your politics, I do not mean to.
That's It HSD, again on the nail, That is the fear either civilians slaughtered by Regime if they stay in power or the Civilians slaughtered by Rebels should they take power! You Have it HSD..
I can say Nothing ELSE! Except EXCELLENT! Never Again!!
Kind Regards
Hot_Single_Dude: Thank you for deep going replies to my posts Iseek
Thank you, for kind comments,
I guess I am just an old Hippy type (at Heart) looking for peace everywhere , I don’t know. I have been told I am somewhat idealistic in a way and perhaps that is true..
Hot_Single_Dude:
Still I will keep thinking that "Just Give Peace a chance" Does not work on Syrian situation, and Assad got to go in one way or another and if the international community, leaving syrian people on their own faiths ... ugly history will happen a gain and what happened to freedom seekers in Iraq in the 90,s GOP war on Iraq, will happen a gain in Syria... and as Saddam succeded killing off as many human beings as he wanted to,before the whole rebelion was over and out ... Syria will suffter the same, and Assad,s savages will wash off the blood from the streets and Assad and his family will be "in" again as being modern and so on becuase of buying expensive fasion stuff for his wife!
Still I will keep thinking that "Just Give Peace a chance" Does not work on Syrian situation, and Assad got to go in one way or another and if the international community, leaving syrian people on their own faiths ... ugly history will happen a gain and what happened to freedom seekers in Iraq in the 90,s GOP war on Iraq, will happen a gain in Syria... and as Saddam succeded killing off as many human beings as he wanted to,before the whole rebelion was over and out ... Syria will suffter the same, and Assad,s savages will wash off the blood from the streets and Assad and his family will be "in" again as being modern and so on becuase of buying expensive fasion stuff for his wife!
This is it HSD, you have it Bro, Exactly that is my big fear, AS we have both said before either way the Civilians suffer.. I have to agree also if Assad has no backing by the people, then he HAS to go 4 sure!
Despite the charges levelled towards me I am not anti-West, Anti-American or anything like that, I as you can imagine, HSD, just seek to explain the plight of the civilian population, often forgotten about in such situations as Syria.
I know I am leaving myself open to a bashing in this; but I honestly believe the situation would be different if President Obama was in his second term.. Now I know you might argue against this, But I believe he is a good man, who had Fantastic plans for his country and the M.E. etc, but he is bound by the chains of opposition in Congress, which I think is such a great shame… Sorry If I may have offended your politics, I do not mean to.
Hot_Single_Dude:
Back then people of Iraq really bleived that America wanted to support their seek of freedom, and all of sudden the same people were left to savage dogs of Saddam, and the rest of the story you know...
Back then people of Iraq really bleived that America wanted to support their seek of freedom, and all of sudden the same people were left to savage dogs of Saddam, and the rest of the story you know...
That's It HSD, again on the nail, That is the fear either civilians slaughtered by Regime if they stay in power or the Civilians slaughtered by Rebels should they take power! You Have it HSD..
Hot_Single_Dude:
Instead of thinking "give peace a chance"... Think: Never Again!!!
Instead of thinking "give peace a chance"... Think: Never Again!!!
I can say Nothing ELSE! Except EXCELLENT! Never Again!!
Kind Regards
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Interesting and I apologise if it has been posted before.
Russia 'still opposes Syria intervention'
Russia will continue to oppose attempts by the UN Security Council to sanction military intervention in Syria, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov says.
Mr Lavrov also repeated calls for an international conference to implement the peace plan drawn up by UN special envoy Kofi Annan.
He said Moscow would support the departure of President Bashar al-Assad, but only if Syrians agreed to it.
Activists said at least 40 people were killed across Syria on Saturday.
They blamed the Syrian army for the deaths of at least 17 people, including women, during fighting in the southern town of Deraa.
Speaking at foreign ministry in Moscow, Mr Lavrov said that the issue of foreign intervention in Syria was being posed in a "radical and quite emotional way".
He said foreign powers were encouraging the armed opposition to hope that "the Libyan scenario" could be repeated.
"All this is a dangerous game," he said.
"Our position remains unchanged. We will not agree to the use of force being authorised in the UN Security Council.
"That would lead to the gravest of consequences for the whole of the Middle East."
Russia 'still opposes Syria intervention'
Russia will continue to oppose attempts by the UN Security Council to sanction military intervention in Syria, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov says.
Mr Lavrov also repeated calls for an international conference to implement the peace plan drawn up by UN special envoy Kofi Annan.
He said Moscow would support the departure of President Bashar al-Assad, but only if Syrians agreed to it.
Activists said at least 40 people were killed across Syria on Saturday.
They blamed the Syrian army for the deaths of at least 17 people, including women, during fighting in the southern town of Deraa.
Speaking at foreign ministry in Moscow, Mr Lavrov said that the issue of foreign intervention in Syria was being posed in a "radical and quite emotional way".
He said foreign powers were encouraging the armed opposition to hope that "the Libyan scenario" could be repeated.
"All this is a dangerous game," he said.
"Our position remains unchanged. We will not agree to the use of force being authorised in the UN Security Council.
"That would lead to the gravest of consequences for the whole of the Middle East."
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Hi Vinny, Welcome Back..
No, you are top of the league Vinny, Just heard the interview myself about 2 minutes ago..
Both TT and HSD, predicted that would happen, As TT said they have little choice but to do something, being one of those using the UN veto.
Might be for a hopeful solution or an answer to the Friends of Syria plans, who knows...
Don't know much about Mr Lavrov, although he was part of last government team under President Medvedev, If memory serves me, also appeared to have good relations with Mrs Clinton..
Anyway, Thanks again Vinny, and thanks for the link, will catch up later...
Kind Regards
vinny1967: Interesting and I apologise if it has been posted before.
Russia 'still opposes Syria intervention'
Russia will continue to oppose attempts by the UN Security Council to sanction military intervention in Syria, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov says.
Russia 'still opposes Syria intervention'
Russia will continue to oppose attempts by the UN Security Council to sanction military intervention in Syria, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov says.
No, you are top of the league Vinny, Just heard the interview myself about 2 minutes ago..
vinny1967:
Mr Lavrov also repeated calls for an international conference to implement the peace plan drawn up by UN special envoy Kofi Annan.
He said Moscow would support the departure of President Bashar al-Assad, but only if Syrians agreed to it.
Activists said at least 40 people were killed across Syria on Saturday.
They blamed the Syrian army for the deaths of at least 17 people, including women, during fighting in the southern town of Deraa.
Speaking at foreign ministry in Moscow, Mr Lavrov said that the issue of foreign intervention in Syria was being posed in a "radical and quite emotional way".
He said foreign powers were encouraging the armed opposition to hope that "the Libyan scenario" could be repeated.
"All this is a dangerous game," he said.
"Our position remains unchanged. We will not agree to the use of force being authorised in the UN Security Council.
"That would lead to the gravest of consequences for the whole of the Middle East."
Mr Lavrov also repeated calls for an international conference to implement the peace plan drawn up by UN special envoy Kofi Annan.
He said Moscow would support the departure of President Bashar al-Assad, but only if Syrians agreed to it.
Activists said at least 40 people were killed across Syria on Saturday.
They blamed the Syrian army for the deaths of at least 17 people, including women, during fighting in the southern town of Deraa.
Speaking at foreign ministry in Moscow, Mr Lavrov said that the issue of foreign intervention in Syria was being posed in a "radical and quite emotional way".
He said foreign powers were encouraging the armed opposition to hope that "the Libyan scenario" could be repeated.
"All this is a dangerous game," he said.
"Our position remains unchanged. We will not agree to the use of force being authorised in the UN Security Council.
"That would lead to the gravest of consequences for the whole of the Middle East."
Both TT and HSD, predicted that would happen, As TT said they have little choice but to do something, being one of those using the UN veto.
Might be for a hopeful solution or an answer to the Friends of Syria plans, who knows...
Don't know much about Mr Lavrov, although he was part of last government team under President Medvedev, If memory serves me, also appeared to have good relations with Mrs Clinton..
Anyway, Thanks again Vinny, and thanks for the link, will catch up later...
Kind Regards
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Iseek: Hi Vinny, Welcome Back..No, you are top of the league Vinny, Just heard the interview myself about 2 minutes ago..
Both TT and HSD, predicted that would happen, As TT said they have little choice but to do something, being one of those using the UN veto.
Might be for a hopeful solution or an answer to the Friends of Syria plans, who knows...
Don't know much about Mr Lavrov, although he was part of last government team under President Medvedev, If memory serves me, also appeared to have good relations with Mrs Clinton..
Anyway, Thanks again Vinny, and thanks for the link, will catch up later...Kind Regards
Both TT and HSD, predicted that would happen, As TT said they have little choice but to do something, being one of those using the UN veto.
Might be for a hopeful solution or an answer to the Friends of Syria plans, who knows...
Don't know much about Mr Lavrov, although he was part of last government team under President Medvedev, If memory serves me, also appeared to have good relations with Mrs Clinton..
Anyway, Thanks again Vinny, and thanks for the link, will catch up later...Kind Regards
Bit tired now but I will drop in tomorrow to catch up.
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ttom500: Hi Vinny,
I agree the CIA is there. The Russia secret service is there. The Mossad is there. Every intell agency in the world has flocked to the
Syrian violence. That is what they get paid to do. Go to the hotspots and do covert things.....
But just my opinion, on the case built here.....that the best Peace Keepers for Syria is the Russians.
I back that up with what Hillary Clinton said yesterday. She was
not in Washington to meet with Annan.....but with conference calling...likely was at the table in some way.
Yesterday, she goes public with saying 'the US understands the Syrian people want a change. That they want Assad removed from power. The United States agrees with that. That the United States has prepped a 'staged plan' for his transfer of power.' Not quoted verbattem but very close.
She did not say one word about US Peace Keepers or a no fly zone over the country.
It is a election year. Obama cannot make a large peace keeping deployment to Syria. He bungled Libya so badly on the Congressional approval. He cannot even get a go from Congress for a no fly zone. They would not give it to him. They'd force it to be executive order and to be totally on his shoulders with the election coming.
Maybe after the election. But right now? No way, Hose'.
So the only place I see them coming from is Russia....maybe Africa. But the later is problematic as well. But to get them from Russia, you are going to have to twist Putin's arm.jmo
It is twistable. Ask me how we stopped the Russians short of the Georgian Capitol someday. Maybe "stopped" is not the right word.....'induced them to slowing their advance' to a 1/4 inch per day.....))...is a better choice of words.
Heck if I was 30 years younger.....give me some blue body armor and a blue kevlar hat.....but this is not a old man's game or place....for the next few years,......Syria is going to be one serious and deadly place.
I agree the CIA is there. The Russia secret service is there. The Mossad is there. Every intell agency in the world has flocked to the
Syrian violence. That is what they get paid to do. Go to the hotspots and do covert things.....
But just my opinion, on the case built here.....that the best Peace Keepers for Syria is the Russians.
I back that up with what Hillary Clinton said yesterday. She was
not in Washington to meet with Annan.....but with conference calling...likely was at the table in some way.
Yesterday, she goes public with saying 'the US understands the Syrian people want a change. That they want Assad removed from power. The United States agrees with that. That the United States has prepped a 'staged plan' for his transfer of power.' Not quoted verbattem but very close.
She did not say one word about US Peace Keepers or a no fly zone over the country.
It is a election year. Obama cannot make a large peace keeping deployment to Syria. He bungled Libya so badly on the Congressional approval. He cannot even get a go from Congress for a no fly zone. They would not give it to him. They'd force it to be executive order and to be totally on his shoulders with the election coming.
Maybe after the election. But right now? No way, Hose'.
So the only place I see them coming from is Russia....maybe Africa. But the later is problematic as well. But to get them from Russia, you are going to have to twist Putin's arm.jmo
It is twistable. Ask me how we stopped the Russians short of the Georgian Capitol someday. Maybe "stopped" is not the right word.....'induced them to slowing their advance' to a 1/4 inch per day.....))...is a better choice of words.
Heck if I was 30 years younger.....give me some blue body armor and a blue kevlar hat.....but this is not a old man's game or place....for the next few years,......Syria is going to be one serious and deadly place.
I can just imagine you in the middle of things TT and your right it's a younger mans game.
Unfortunately with the Mossad being there and the CIA and the Russkies what and who are we to believe. They are all pulling strings their way, financing and backing and manipulating. I have no time for that as that policy has not worked heretofore and as far as I'm concerned they should get the hell out and let them at it.
I really think this is typical of what is wrong with the world today. Its accepted that covert operations are happening on foreign sovereign soil manipulating proceedings, not for the good of the people, but for the good of the paymaster.
When countries stop interfering in other countries affairs the world would become a far safer place imo.
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Here is a link to the Aljazeera show
Syria: From tipping point to breaking point?
I am not great at getting the Youtube links, however the link above brings you to the youtube replay of the show.
It's an interesting debate in many ways and there is an uncomfortable exchange between the presenter and a guest, when the guest states that media reports are biased and then mentions Saudi Arabia / Qatar and the part they play in the conflict.
Kind Regards
Syria: From tipping point to breaking point?
I am not great at getting the Youtube links, however the link above brings you to the youtube replay of the show.
It's an interesting debate in many ways and there is an uncomfortable exchange between the presenter and a guest, when the guest states that media reports are biased and then mentions Saudi Arabia / Qatar and the part they play in the conflict.
Kind Regards
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Thanks for posting that brief history Iseek. Interesting stuff and educational.
I will have a look at the video when I have more time.
Thanks again.
I will have a look at the video when I have more time.
Thanks again.
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Hey iseek, what kind of car are you driving in your pic? While I'm typing, did/do you think Kofi Annan ever had a snowballs chance in Hell of stopping the carnage in Syria? Extremely naive if you did/do. He never had a chance. You can't change 1,000's of years of ingrained religious brain washing with one soft spoken ineffectual old man.
You are a very intelligent fairly well educated guy, why are you wasting your time arguing Mideast politics on a free dating site when you could be teaching this subject at some university and getting paid for it? You're obviously qualified.
You are a very intelligent fairly well educated guy, why are you wasting your time arguing Mideast politics on a free dating site when you could be teaching this subject at some university and getting paid for it? You're obviously qualified.
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Hi ooby dooby,
Don't think we have spoken before.
It's a 1956 Mercedes, Think the year is right. Was only looking at some photos last night.. I wasn't mine though, Sadly
Guess my answer would be I hoped the peace plan would work.
However, when outside countries (with their own agenda) backed the Rebels, I must admit, I began to have doubts. It's no longer just about Syria anymore, It about Russia, China, Assad Government, and Iran on the other side The West, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey, Israel and others.
I never believe it's naive to seek peace or peaceful solutions! At the same time isn't it a little naive to think war solves all issues?
As for "1,000's of years of ingrained religious brain washing" you will have to explain what you mean there.
Because the forum enables me to do so, When I signed up on CS I wasn't even aware of such forums. My intention /Hope was to attract a partner.
I am not qualified to teach, and have never claimed to be. However IF I was, wouldn't I still be entitled to post on the forums?
Nice to talk to you ooby dooby,
Kind Regards
Don't think we have spoken before.
ooby_dooby: Hey iseek, what kind of car are you driving in your pic?
It's a 1956 Mercedes, Think the year is right. Was only looking at some photos last night.. I wasn't mine though, Sadly
ooby_dooby:
While I'm typing,did/do you think Kofi Annan ever had a snowballs chance in Hell of stopping the carnage in Syria?
While I'm typing,did/do you think Kofi Annan ever had a snowballs chance in Hell of stopping the carnage in Syria?
Guess my answer would be I hoped the peace plan would work.
However, when outside countries (with their own agenda) backed the Rebels, I must admit, I began to have doubts. It's no longer just about Syria anymore, It about Russia, China, Assad Government, and Iran on the other side The West, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey, Israel and others.
ooby_dooby:
Extremely naive if you did/do. He never had a chance. You can't change 1,000's of years of ingrained religious brain washing with one soft spoken ineffectual old man.
Extremely naive if you did/do. He never had a chance. You can't change 1,000's of years of ingrained religious brain washing with one soft spoken ineffectual old man.
I never believe it's naive to seek peace or peaceful solutions! At the same time isn't it a little naive to think war solves all issues?
As for "1,000's of years of ingrained religious brain washing" you will have to explain what you mean there.
ooby_dooby:
You are a very intelligent fairly well educated guy, why are you wasting your time arguing Mideast politics on a free dating site when you could be teaching this subject at some university and getting paid for it? You're obviously qualified.
You are a very intelligent fairly well educated guy, why are you wasting your time arguing Mideast politics on a free dating site when you could be teaching this subject at some university and getting paid for it? You're obviously qualified.
Because the forum enables me to do so, When I signed up on CS I wasn't even aware of such forums. My intention /Hope was to attract a partner.
I am not qualified to teach, and have never claimed to be. However IF I was, wouldn't I still be entitled to post on the forums?
Nice to talk to you ooby dooby,
Kind Regards
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Dunno if anyone has read this article :
The worsening conflict in Syria and the prospect of foreign military intervention outside the mandate of the United Nations poses an immediate risk to civilian safety. The consequences of pursuing regime change in Damascus invite a broader sectarian conflict that would forever reshape the Middle East; this article analyzes the ongoing perpetuation of violence and attempts to offer non-abrasive solutions to the crisis in Syria.
The worsening conflict in Syria and the prospect of foreign military intervention outside the mandate of the United Nations poses an immediate risk to civilian safety. The consequences of pursuing regime change in Damascus invite a broader sectarian conflict that would forever reshape the Middle East; this article analyzes the ongoing perpetuation of violence and attempts to offer non-abrasive solutions to the crisis in Syria.
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Hi Boban,
thanks for the links.
I agree, this is not about Syria only anymore, Lebanon, Jordan, disputed Golan, West Bank and Gaza are but a few who would also feel the affects to begin with. The potential for civilian loss as a result is frankly speaking unthinkable..
Anyway thanks again for the links and indeed the other links within the link above..
Kind Regards
thanks for the links.
Boban1: Dunno if anyone has read this article :
The worsening conflict in Syria and the prospect of foreign military intervention outside the mandate of the United Nations poses an immediate risk to civilian safety. The consequences of pursuing regime change in Damascus invite a broader sectarian conflict that would forever reshape the Middle East; this article analyzes the ongoing perpetuation of violence and attempts to offer non-abrasive solutions to the crisis in Syria.
The worsening conflict in Syria and the prospect of foreign military intervention outside the mandate of the United Nations poses an immediate risk to civilian safety. The consequences of pursuing regime change in Damascus invite a broader sectarian conflict that would forever reshape the Middle East; this article analyzes the ongoing perpetuation of violence and attempts to offer non-abrasive solutions to the crisis in Syria.
I agree, this is not about Syria only anymore, Lebanon, Jordan, disputed Golan, West Bank and Gaza are but a few who would also feel the affects to begin with. The potential for civilian loss as a result is frankly speaking unthinkable..
Anyway thanks again for the links and indeed the other links within the link above..
Kind Regards
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Hi again Boban,
Interesting Report by Human Rights Watch (link below)
Statement by the M.E. Director of HRW.
The Syrian government’s brutal tactics cannot justify abuses by armed opposition groups. Opposition leaders should make it clear to their followers that they must not torture, kidnap, or execute under any circumstances.
Sarah Leah Whitson, Middle East director at Human Rights Watch
What is equally interesting is the fact that the video evidence in the links of the report / document, are missing in 95% of cases. When you try to view the links it says that the person who owned the account is no longer a member of Youtube…
Kind Regards
Interesting Report by Human Rights Watch (link below)
Statement by the M.E. Director of HRW.
The Syrian government’s brutal tactics cannot justify abuses by armed opposition groups. Opposition leaders should make it clear to their followers that they must not torture, kidnap, or execute under any circumstances.
Sarah Leah Whitson, Middle East director at Human Rights Watch
What is equally interesting is the fact that the video evidence in the links of the report / document, are missing in 95% of cases. When you try to view the links it says that the person who owned the account is no longer a member of Youtube…
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Iseek: Hi again Boban,
Interesting Report by Human Rights Watch (link below)
Statement by the M.E. Director of HRW.
The Syrian government’s brutal tactics cannot justify abuses by armed opposition groups. Opposition leaders should make it clear to their followers that they must not torture, kidnap, or execute under any circumstances.
Sarah Leah Whitson, Middle East director at Human Rights Watch
What is equally interesting is the fact that the video evidence in the links of the report / document, are missing in 95% of cases. When you try to view the links it says that the person who owned the account is no longer a member of Youtube…Kind Regards
Interesting Report by Human Rights Watch (link below)
Statement by the M.E. Director of HRW.
The Syrian government’s brutal tactics cannot justify abuses by armed opposition groups. Opposition leaders should make it clear to their followers that they must not torture, kidnap, or execute under any circumstances.
Sarah Leah Whitson, Middle East director at Human Rights Watch
What is equally interesting is the fact that the video evidence in the links of the report / document, are missing in 95% of cases. When you try to view the links it says that the person who owned the account is no longer a member of Youtube…Kind Regards
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As I have said before, my link to the Irish Government is by Citizenship ONLY....
I have expertise that my government uses. If I said otherwise it would be lie. I am of the out power party. So do I have total knowledge of the White House plans or seen maps for the middle east? No.
OK, that was not the impression given..
I am trying to point out that Russia is your key to getting Syrian peace. That is why I have repeated it so many times. But you will only have window of opportunity on Russian Peace Keepers in Syria for so long.
As far as I am concerned only Syria and it's people are the key to peace, the West and others you have mentioned are only players..
Putin is already starting to distance himself from Assad. Peace keeping works along as they are close. Putin just asked for a 'meeting of nations' to discuss Syria. Also he does not want any sanction placed on it during the meeting. He has now said the Yemen plan for Assad ot leave is OK with Russia. Even if Assad leaves, this country is headed into civil war and will need peace keepers. JMO.
It is headed for civil war I agree, hence why outside intervention will only worsen an already awful situation, not to mention this civil war could very easily become a M.E. Civil war. Right now the SNC and Kurdish groups are at logger heads.. One group wants intervention and others DO NOT..
This meeting of the nations, is Putin's way of by-passing the UN. He know that the UN is in a position to put Russia in this rock and hard place in regards to Syria. So he makes this meeting outside of the UN. One can say that is eating your cake and ice cream at the same time. But the reason he does not want sanctions....is they cut into Assad's ability to pay for Russian military goods and weapons. And they can limit what Russia sends to Syria.
I really don't know about Russia, But As Mrs Clinton said intervention is almost impossible because of the amount of indecision, and arguments etc between the groups that make up the Rebels..