Why Not fully back Kofi Annan and give peace a chance in Syria (411)
Carl96190: How about everyone leaves Syria alone so that the Syrians can sort out their own affairs?
The government of Syria is a matter for the Syrians, nobody else.
The government of Syria is a matter for the Syrians, nobody else.
Well, it's true many countries including my own have had civil wars, and many question the West right to interfere.
However, Frankly it's to late now, those supplying the Rebels with arms, including Heavy Arms and those who chose to covertly, yet almost brazenly get their agency members on the ground, have made your suggestion, now impossible.
The leaks from the Arab League observers, suggest that as late as the end of January, they observed what could be considered as terrorist attacks against the state of Syria along with direct civilian attacks by the then smaller and less well armed rebel group.
However, they did also state that they noticed the heavier weapons and armor piercing weapons were appearing in Rebel hands.
To many dogs in this fight now, I am afraid, and when that happens the dog that is killed is always PEACE...
Kind Regards
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I quote a recent article on displaced persons in Syria. This coming from Red Cross Spokeswoman Hickham Hissan
"We have from 200,000 to 400,000 that are internally displaced. We have 95,000 refugees in Turkey, Lebanon and Jordan."
But oh no....ethnic cleansing is not occurring in Syria.
The Sunni are just running across borders to avoid higher Syrian taxes...))
Iseek, really until you get a handle on what is happening in Syria, you will be clueless on how to stop it. Ethnic Cleansing is certainly happening in Syria. The world just does not want to call it that, yet.
So read back on my posts some.
Who predicted UN observers were in a dangerous position of being sniped and fired on?
Who said it was because Assad let them into the country in thin skinned vehicles?
Who predicted ethnic cleansing was happening?
Who told you why it was happening?
Who predicted that Sunni villages were the targets?
Who said having a border fence on the Lebanon/Syrian border would help?
Why it was not there after Irish/French had peace keep for 15 years in Lebanon?
This is not rocket science. Predicting what a Assad or a Hussien or a Amhmenajada will do in a given situation is not that hard. Just pick the worse thing possible for humanity and you got it.
But hey trying to get US Forces to Peace Keep in Syria.....is going to be harder than the best rocket science known to man.
That is not to say that the US does not have military abilities that can contribute to a humantarin relief effort in Lebanon, Jordan, and Turkey for the displaced Syrians. That it does not have military abilities to help in Syria. We can set up a Med blockade of the Syrian port were much the military gear comes in. What do you think of that?
We are just not going to put boots on the ground for you. So go talk to the Russians. They are already there. I am not going to have US forces squaring off with Russian forces in Syria. We try to avoid WWIII
situations when possible. Unlike the Russian that rushed into Pristina in the Kosovo conflict with a armor brigade from Hungary. Running around in the same MIL vehicles as the Serbs.....almost got them killed. That would have been a major international incident, yes?
This is coming from a WH advisor that two weeks prior to the Libyan No Fly zone being ordered....advised the WH "a No fly zone by USAF and USNAVY air units and containing of Libyan air defense from a deployment of US Naval forces was a viable military mission."
Here is the article on displaced Syrians. It is at the bottom of the piece. Enjoy the read.
news.yahoo.com/un-team-sees-massacre-syrian-village-210405702.html
"We have from 200,000 to 400,000 that are internally displaced. We have 95,000 refugees in Turkey, Lebanon and Jordan."
But oh no....ethnic cleansing is not occurring in Syria.
The Sunni are just running across borders to avoid higher Syrian taxes...))
Iseek, really until you get a handle on what is happening in Syria, you will be clueless on how to stop it. Ethnic Cleansing is certainly happening in Syria. The world just does not want to call it that, yet.
So read back on my posts some.
Who predicted UN observers were in a dangerous position of being sniped and fired on?
Who said it was because Assad let them into the country in thin skinned vehicles?
Who predicted ethnic cleansing was happening?
Who told you why it was happening?
Who predicted that Sunni villages were the targets?
Who said having a border fence on the Lebanon/Syrian border would help?
Why it was not there after Irish/French had peace keep for 15 years in Lebanon?
This is not rocket science. Predicting what a Assad or a Hussien or a Amhmenajada will do in a given situation is not that hard. Just pick the worse thing possible for humanity and you got it.
But hey trying to get US Forces to Peace Keep in Syria.....is going to be harder than the best rocket science known to man.
That is not to say that the US does not have military abilities that can contribute to a humantarin relief effort in Lebanon, Jordan, and Turkey for the displaced Syrians. That it does not have military abilities to help in Syria. We can set up a Med blockade of the Syrian port were much the military gear comes in. What do you think of that?
We are just not going to put boots on the ground for you. So go talk to the Russians. They are already there. I am not going to have US forces squaring off with Russian forces in Syria. We try to avoid WWIII
situations when possible. Unlike the Russian that rushed into Pristina in the Kosovo conflict with a armor brigade from Hungary. Running around in the same MIL vehicles as the Serbs.....almost got them killed. That would have been a major international incident, yes?
This is coming from a WH advisor that two weeks prior to the Libyan No Fly zone being ordered....advised the WH "a No fly zone by USAF and USNAVY air units and containing of Libyan air defense from a deployment of US Naval forces was a viable military mission."
Here is the article on displaced Syrians. It is at the bottom of the piece. Enjoy the read.
news.yahoo.com/un-team-sees-massacre-syrian-village-210405702.html
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ttom500: I quote a recent article on displaced persons in Syria. This coming from Red Cross Spokeswoman Hickham Hissan
"We have from 200,000 to 400,000 that are internally displaced. We have 95,000 refugees in Turkey, Lebanon and Jordan."
But oh no....ethnic cleansing is not occurring in Syria.
"We have from 200,000 to 400,000 that are internally displaced. We have 95,000 refugees in Turkey, Lebanon and Jordan."
But oh no....ethnic cleansing is not occurring in Syria.
The Red Cross spokesman said; DISPLACED... Ethnic cleansing?????????
But, you go ahead and push your agenda..
ttom500:
The Sunni are just running across borders to avoid higher Syrian taxes...))
The Sunni are just running across borders to avoid higher Syrian taxes...))
Really reports I have suggest Sunni, Alawite Christian and OTHERS...
ttom500:
Iseek, really until you get a handle on what is happening in Syria, you will be clueless on how to stop it. Ethnic Cleansing is certainly happening in Syria. The world just does not want to call it that, yet.
Iseek, really until you get a handle on what is happening in Syria, you will be clueless on how to stop it. Ethnic Cleansing is certainly happening in Syria. The world just does not want to call it that, yet.
OR....OR, IT happens to FIT the West agenda to justify going in, I know which one I think is true...
ttom500:
So read back on my posts some.
Who predicted UN observers were in a dangerous position of being sniped and fired on?
Who said it was because Assad let them into the country in thin skinned vehicles?
Who predicted ethnic cleansing was happening?
Who told you why it was happening?
Who predicted that Sunni villages were the targets?
Who said having a border fence on the Lebanon/Syrian border would help?
Why it was not there after Irish/French had peace keep for 15 years in Lebanon?
So read back on my posts some.
Who predicted UN observers were in a dangerous position of being sniped and fired on?
Who said it was because Assad let them into the country in thin skinned vehicles?
Who predicted ethnic cleansing was happening?
Who told you why it was happening?
Who predicted that Sunni villages were the targets?
Who said having a border fence on the Lebanon/Syrian border would help?
Why it was not there after Irish/French had peace keep for 15 years in Lebanon?
YOU ALL YOU.... Yet more propaganda or either (in some cases) pure arrogance or lack of credible knowledge....
ttom500:
This is not rocket science. Predicting what a Assad or a Hussien or a Amhmenajada will do in a given situation is not that hard. Just pick the worse thing possible for humanity and you got it.
This is not rocket science. Predicting what a Assad or a Hussien or a Amhmenajada will do in a given situation is not that hard. Just pick the worse thing possible for humanity and you got it.
Funny you mention that because experts have been predicting EXACTLY what US and the WEST would do to cause conflict in all above mentioned.
ttom500:
But hey trying to get US Forces to Peace Keep in Syria.....is going to be harder than the best rocket science known to man.
But hey trying to get US Forces to Peace Keep in Syria.....is going to be harder than the best rocket science known to man.
HOW many times TT, around and around and around.....................
ttom500:
That is not to say that the US does not have military abilities that can contribute to a humantarin relief effort in Lebanon, Jordan, and Turkey for the displaced Syrians. That it does not have military abilities to help in Syria. We can set up a Med blockade of the Syrian port were much the military gear comes in. What do you think of that?
That is not to say that the US does not have military abilities that can contribute to a humantarin relief effort in Lebanon, Jordan, and Turkey for the displaced Syrians. That it does not have military abilities to help in Syria. We can set up a Med blockade of the Syrian port were much the military gear comes in. What do you think of that?
YOU don't really want to know TT..
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Ran Out of space TT, continued..
Then ALL I can say is the White House YOU claim to advise, DESPERATELY needs new advisers.. Take a breath TT, look back at the STATE Libya has been left in, on brink of civil war again and over 30,000 displaced from Benghazi ALONE!
TT, I have to say I enjoy your banter and opinions. However you are now simply going around and around with your statements/claims.
If you insist on playing the I said I said (Who said)game, then I will be HAPPY to answer ALL your claims to superior knowledge in RED above if you wish..
However, I would consider the whole process time consuming, Repetitive and just boring for others not to mention futile.. Wouldn't You?
Kind Regards
ttom500:
We are just not going to put boots on the ground for you. So go talk to the Russians. They are already there. I am not going to have US forces squaring off with Russian forces in Syria. We try to avoid WWIII
situations when possible. Unlike the Russian that rushed into Pristina in the Kosovo conflict with a armor brigade from Hungary. Running around in the same MIL vehicles as the Serbs.....almost got them killed. That would have been a major international incident, yes?
Really, TT you have lost the plot completely, Since you began here it has been the same merry-go-round of past US triumphs and anti ANYBODY to placate your stance drivel..We are just not going to put boots on the ground for you. So go talk to the Russians. They are already there. I am not going to have US forces squaring off with Russian forces in Syria. We try to avoid WWIII
situations when possible. Unlike the Russian that rushed into Pristina in the Kosovo conflict with a armor brigade from Hungary. Running around in the same MIL vehicles as the Serbs.....almost got them killed. That would have been a major international incident, yes?
ttom500:
This is coming from a WH advisor that two weeks prior to the Libyan No Fly zone being ordered....advised the WH "a No fly zone by USAF and USNAVY air units and containing of Libyan air defense from a deployment of US Naval forces was a viable military mission."
This is coming from a WH advisor that two weeks prior to the Libyan No Fly zone being ordered....advised the WH "a No fly zone by USAF and USNAVY air units and containing of Libyan air defense from a deployment of US Naval forces was a viable military mission."
Then ALL I can say is the White House YOU claim to advise, DESPERATELY needs new advisers.. Take a breath TT, look back at the STATE Libya has been left in, on brink of civil war again and over 30,000 displaced from Benghazi ALONE!
ttom500:
Here is the article on displaced Syrians. It is at the bottom of the piece. Enjoy the read.
news.yahoo.com/un-team-sees-massacre-syrian-village-210405702.html
Here is the article on displaced Syrians. It is at the bottom of the piece. Enjoy the read.
news.yahoo.com/un-team-sees-massacre-syrian-village-210405702.html
TT, I have to say I enjoy your banter and opinions. However you are now simply going around and around with your statements/claims.
If you insist on playing the I said I said (Who said)game, then I will be HAPPY to answer ALL your claims to superior knowledge in RED above if you wish..
However, I would consider the whole process time consuming, Repetitive and just boring for others not to mention futile.. Wouldn't You?
Kind Regards
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Hi there Iseek, I think this is why the thread is running about in circles...
probably because no one really knows what the heck is happening..
and along with the dangers fraught for news reporters, come the uncertainty , which of course is natural for all those who speculate
When we cannot get clear instructions on the focus, all sorts of speculation come into play...
hope this helps...
probably because no one really knows what the heck is happening..
and along with the dangers fraught for news reporters, come the uncertainty , which of course is natural for all those who speculate
When we cannot get clear instructions on the focus, all sorts of speculation come into play...
hope this helps...
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Iseek: Ran Out of space TT, continued..
Really, TT you have lost the plot completely, Since you began here it has been the same merry-go-round of past US triumphs and anti ANYBODY to placate your stance drivel..Then ALL I can say is the White House YOU claim to advise, DESPERATELY needs new advisers.. Take a breath TT, look back at the STATE Libya has been left in, on brink of civil war again and over 30,000 displaced from Benghazi ALONE!
TT, I have to say I enjoy your banter and opinions. However you are now simply going around and around with your statements/claims.
If you insist on playing the I said I said (Who said)game, then I will be HAPPY to answer ALL your claims to superior knowledge in RED above if you wish..
However, I would consider the whole process time consuming, Repetitive and just boring for others not to mention futile.. Wouldn't You?
Kind Regards
Really, TT you have lost the plot completely, Since you began here it has been the same merry-go-round of past US triumphs and anti ANYBODY to placate your stance drivel..Then ALL I can say is the White House YOU claim to advise, DESPERATELY needs new advisers.. Take a breath TT, look back at the STATE Libya has been left in, on brink of civil war again and over 30,000 displaced from Benghazi ALONE!
TT, I have to say I enjoy your banter and opinions. However you are now simply going around and around with your statements/claims.
If you insist on playing the I said I said (Who said)game, then I will be HAPPY to answer ALL your claims to superior knowledge in RED above if you wish..
However, I would consider the whole process time consuming, Repetitive and just boring for others not to mention futile.. Wouldn't You?
Kind Regards
I am not claiming superior knowledge. I come to these threads with a open mind and desire to learn. That so I can write a better report to those in the US government that consider my thoughts to have merit.
I have freely offered my advise. Supported my positions with third party sources. You seem to get riled and take it personally....over it. Why? I don't know.
Had you begun to seek Russian peace keeper when first presented. You might have a Russian decision to the concept by now. They might be rushing to Syria to calm the violence as I write. But clearly you did not.
So don't lay this on me or my country. Assad is a surrogate of Iran and Russia is his military supplier. Assad runs the Bathe' party of Syria, a single party government. Just like Sadam Hussien did. Funny how Iran can work with one Bathe party leader and not the other.
So Russia is getting rich off the blood of Sunni that Assad is killing and displacing. Iran is getting a diversion for its developing nuclear programs.
If the US places one boot in Syria, it is one less military option for Iran. I quote the President of the United States here..."All military options are on the table for Iran."
So do a smiley with Putin to get Annan's peace keepers. They had a parade for him in Damascus the other day. So Russians will be welcomed there. By 1/4 of the country. The other 3/4's might not see it that way. They might have something other than smiley faces for the Russians.
Also.....if Russia does Peace keep in Syria. There is a European benefit. Russia cannot invade anymore small countries, in my opinion.
Meaning those small eastern block countries are safe from a Russian aggression. Like what happened in Georgia, a few year ago. Putin will not have the military manpower for such aggression.
There is a US benefit as well. With eastern Europe safe from Russian aggression. We can re-deploy our 3rd ID and 3rd Armor from Germany. And many other US units as well. Just more US military options for Iran.
So I am placing the cards on the table here. So you can see all the benefits to a Russian peace keeping in Syria. Are you?
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Regarding Libya.
You have to look at the positives in life. Regarding Libya. Qdaffi is gone. The mess was already there before the first US cruise missile struck a Libyan target. Just like the mess is in Syria right now.
And the USA did not place many....I admit there were a few....boots on the ground in Libya.
So it can be done.
You have to look at the positives in life. Regarding Libya. Qdaffi is gone. The mess was already there before the first US cruise missile struck a Libyan target. Just like the mess is in Syria right now.
And the USA did not place many....I admit there were a few....boots on the ground in Libya.
So it can be done.
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Hi again Merriweather,
Absolutely, I totally agree, the situation is, as is always the case in these situations unknown.. Like the C4 reporter from UK, whom the Rebels actually setup in the hope the military would shoot him, and score another Propaganda win for the rebels. AND the Christian Mother (Nun) who claimed that both Sunni,Alawite and Christian were pleading with her to help as the Rebels were offering to kill them, regardless of religion, IF they did not take up arms against the Assad Regime.
But the recent leaks from the Arab league from around Jan, shows attacks by the rebels on Civilian targets such as Bus where they killed 8 innocents, No military in sight.. Guess what, NO mention in the final report tho..
No mention either about the fact that the Arab league monitors confirmed in the leaked reports, that several claims the Rebels made about killings, were totally false and Unreliably reported by the press.
I get angry when people make false and unfounded claims about Ethnic Cleansing tho.... Cos I can guess the press will be next...
Anyway, as they say It is what it is!
Lovely hearing from you again, always feel like it Christmas cos, you always have either info, or a juicy link for me..
Kind Regards
Merriweather: Hi there Iseek, I think this is why the thread is running about in circles...
probably because no one really knows what the heck is happening..
and along with the dangers fraught for news reporters, come the uncertainty , which of course is natural for all those who speculate
When we cannot get clear instructions on the focus, all sorts of speculation come into play...
hope this helps...
probably because no one really knows what the heck is happening..
and along with the dangers fraught for news reporters, come the uncertainty , which of course is natural for all those who speculate
When we cannot get clear instructions on the focus, all sorts of speculation come into play...
hope this helps...
Absolutely, I totally agree, the situation is, as is always the case in these situations unknown.. Like the C4 reporter from UK, whom the Rebels actually setup in the hope the military would shoot him, and score another Propaganda win for the rebels. AND the Christian Mother (Nun) who claimed that both Sunni,Alawite and Christian were pleading with her to help as the Rebels were offering to kill them, regardless of religion, IF they did not take up arms against the Assad Regime.
But the recent leaks from the Arab league from around Jan, shows attacks by the rebels on Civilian targets such as Bus where they killed 8 innocents, No military in sight.. Guess what, NO mention in the final report tho..
No mention either about the fact that the Arab league monitors confirmed in the leaked reports, that several claims the Rebels made about killings, were totally false and Unreliably reported by the press.
I get angry when people make false and unfounded claims about Ethnic Cleansing tho.... Cos I can guess the press will be next...
Anyway, as they say It is what it is!
Lovely hearing from you again, always feel like it Christmas cos, you always have either info, or a juicy link for me..
Kind Regards
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ttom500: I am not claiming superior knowledge. I come to these threads with a open mind and desire to learn. That so I can write a better report to those in the US government that consider my thoughts to have merit.
OK, TT, But that is not what you portray in statements like you have direct contact with the WH.
ttom500:
I have freely offered my advise. Supported my positions with third party sources. You seem to get riled and take it personally....over it. Why? I don't know.
I am not taking it personally, I am just tired of and don't have the time for the same claims each time, I apologize if I gave you the impression, But saying the same thing again and again, serves NO purposeI have freely offered my advise. Supported my positions with third party sources. You seem to get riled and take it personally....over it. Why? I don't know.
ttom500:
Had you begun to seek Russian peace keeper when first presented. You might have a Russian decision to the concept by now. They might be rushing to Syria to calm the violence as I write. But clearly you did not.
As I have said now 4 times to you TT, I have NO connection to Russia, you assumed that because Russia is backing Kofi Annan, or claims to do so, ERGO wants peace plan to succeed, must be Russian...Had you begun to seek Russian peace keeper when first presented. You might have a Russian decision to the concept by now. They might be rushing to Syria to calm the violence as I write. But clearly you did not.
ttom500:
So don't lay this on me or my country. Assad is a surrogate of Iran and Russia is his military supplier. Assad runs the Bathe' party of Syria, a single party government. Just like Sadam Hussien did. Funny how Iran can work with one Bathe party leader and not the other.
So don't lay this on me or my country. Assad is a surrogate of Iran and Russia is his military supplier. Assad runs the Bathe' party of Syria, a single party government. Just like Sadam Hussien did. Funny how Iran can work with one Bathe party leader and not the other.
And again as I have said before, The West supports and arms Bahrain where unarmed people (the majority) are being killed by their government (the minority), As for Iran, i know why their is a blood lust for Iran and so do you TT..
If as you claim then you have seen the New plan map for the M.E.. (you know what map).. So please do me the honor of being treated as at least an equal and not a fool..
ttom500:
So Russia is getting rich off the blood of Sunni that Assad is killing and displacing. Iran is getting a diversion for its developing nuclear programs.
As I have said before TT, so is the WEST, Bahrain, Israel, Palestine, Yemen, Libya, Egypt and on and on...So Russia is getting rich off the blood of Sunni that Assad is killing and displacing. Iran is getting a diversion for its developing nuclear programs.
ttom500:
If the US places one boot in Syria, it is one less military option for Iran. I quote the President of the United States here..."All military options are on the table for Iran."
I agree, But TT, ATleast be honest enough to say Syria is in the way....If the US places one boot in Syria, it is one less military option for Iran. I quote the President of the United States here..."All military options are on the table for Iran."
ttom500:
So do a smiley with Putin to get Annan's peace keepers. They had a parade for him in Damascus the other day. So Russians will be welcomed there. By 1/4 of the country. The other 3/4's might not see it that way. They might have something other than smiley faces for the Russians.
It appears you don't know, that 1/3 or so are Alawite supporters, up to another 1/3 are Christians etc, who support whom ever keeps the peace, or rather who did keep the peace and the final 1/3 are Sunni, and even at that not all Sunni were against peace.So do a smiley with Putin to get Annan's peace keepers. They had a parade for him in Damascus the other day. So Russians will be welcomed there. By 1/4 of the country. The other 3/4's might not see it that way. They might have something other than smiley faces for the Russians.
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Continued again TT,
TT, who is in Georgia now? The West, who started the conflict, although denied at first by the West? Georgia....
I see only benefits in Peace, not Russia, China or the West.
Again, you have said the same at least 3 times here..
Kind Regards
ttom500:
Also.....if Russia does Peace keep in Syria. There is a European benefit. Russia cannot invade anymore small countries, in my opinion.
Meaning those small eastern block countries are safe from a Russian aggression. Like what happened in Georgia, a few year ago. Putin will not have the military manpower for such aggression.
Also.....if Russia does Peace keep in Syria. There is a European benefit. Russia cannot invade anymore small countries, in my opinion.
Meaning those small eastern block countries are safe from a Russian aggression. Like what happened in Georgia, a few year ago. Putin will not have the military manpower for such aggression.
TT, who is in Georgia now? The West, who started the conflict, although denied at first by the West? Georgia....
ttom500:
There is a US benefit as well. With eastern Europe safe from Russian aggression. We can re-deploy our 3rd ID and 3rd Armor from Germany. And many other US units as well. Just more US military options for Iran.
Iran, China and Russia remember the map...There is a US benefit as well. With eastern Europe safe from Russian aggression. We can re-deploy our 3rd ID and 3rd Armor from Germany. And many other US units as well. Just more US military options for Iran.
ttom500:
So I am placing the cards on the table here. So you can see all the benefits to a Russian peace keeping in Syria. Are you?
So I am placing the cards on the table here. So you can see all the benefits to a Russian peace keeping in Syria. Are you?
I see only benefits in Peace, not Russia, China or the West.
Again, you have said the same at least 3 times here..
Kind Regards
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Kofi Annan Got married wth a Chiness and making some fake watches 
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ttom500: Regarding Libya.
You have to look at the positives in life. Regarding Libya. Qdaffi is gone. The mess was already there before the first US cruise missile struck a Libyan target. Just like the mess is in Syria right now.
And the USA did not place many....I admit there were a few....boots on the ground in Libya.
So it can be done.
You have to look at the positives in life. Regarding Libya. Qdaffi is gone. The mess was already there before the first US cruise missile struck a Libyan target. Just like the mess is in Syria right now.
And the USA did not place many....I admit there were a few....boots on the ground in Libya.
So it can be done.
It can be done! Of course, the footprint of the west can be seen almost everywhere in the M.E., AND the results of those footprints history shows have in all cases including the Set up of the State of Israel, been total disaster..
Millions upon millions of lives lost in the early '20's to the war, British and Soviet forces in Iran, British lead, Indian Forces in Lebanon, Syria & Egypt to the Nakba, the formation of State of Israel,
to the killing of Saddat and installation of Mubarak, the West stance on the Fall of and rebirth of Iran, Iraq, Libya and now Syria... What history shows and the people of the M.E. know is outsiders cause death, destruction,Cancer, and deformities, They can not look on the bright side, they look at the why cant they leave us alone side.. Guess what sort of resentment that breeds?
Arguably Libya is worse off now than ever, only exception is Gaddafi is gone. Their only bargaining chip is now worth less OIL, The Tribes are now free of control and able to take military actions at will and there is an estimated of over 70,000 displaced persons, who have been shun from towns, villages and cities where they have lived since birth.
There is NO bright side in M.E. History, Believe me, and there is not going to be either..
Kind Regards
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Hi again Merriweather,
Here is a link worth looking at I can't remember who sent it to me, however see what you think..
If not live please cut and paste..
Kind Regards
Here is a link worth looking at I can't remember who sent it to me, however see what you think..
If not live please cut and paste..
Kind Regards
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butterfly0123: Are you trying to be funny?
He's married to a Swedish woman btw
how many Kid do they have ,and how many of them are Blondes? He's married to a Swedish woman btw
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Iseek: OK, TT, But that is not what you portray in statements like you have direct contact with the WH.
I am not taking it personally, I am just tired of and don't have the time for the same claims each time, I apologize if I gave you the impression, But saying the same thing again and again, serves NO purpose As I have said now 4 times to you TT, I have NO connection to Russia, you assumed that because Russia is backing Kofi Annan,
, As for Iran, i know why their is a blood lust for Iran and so do you TT..
If as you claim then you have seen the New plan map
As I have said before TT, so is the WEST, Bahrain, Israel, Palestine, Yemen, Libya, Egypt and on and on... I agree, But TT, ATleast be honest enough to say Syria is in the way.... It appears you don't know, that 1/3 or so are Alawite supporters, up to another 1/3 are Christians etc, who support whom ever keeps the peace, or rather who did keep the peace and the final 1/3 are Sunni, and even at that not all Sunni were against peace.
I am not taking it personally, I am just tired of and don't have the time for the same claims each time, I apologize if I gave you the impression, But saying the same thing again and again, serves NO purpose As I have said now 4 times to you TT, I have NO connection to Russia, you assumed that because Russia is backing Kofi Annan,
, As for Iran, i know why their is a blood lust for Iran and so do you TT..
If as you claim then you have seen the New plan map
As I have said before TT, so is the WEST, Bahrain, Israel, Palestine, Yemen, Libya, Egypt and on and on... I agree, But TT, ATleast be honest enough to say Syria is in the way.... It appears you don't know, that 1/3 or so are Alawite supporters, up to another 1/3 are Christians etc, who support whom ever keeps the peace, or rather who did keep the peace and the final 1/3 are Sunni, and even at that not all Sunni were against peace.
I am saying that you are Irish. That you have some say with the Irish government likely. Even Ireland can make....and does sponsors UN Resolutions. A UN resolution has to have a sponsoring country.
I have expertise that my government uses. If I said otherwise it would be lie. I am of the out power party. So do I have total knowledge of the White House plans or seen maps for the middle east? No.
I am trying to point out that Russia is your key to getting Syrian peace. That is why I have repeated it so many times. But you will only have window of opportunity on Russian Peace Keepers in Syria for so long.
Putin is already starting to distance himself from Assad. Peace keeping works along as they are close. Putin just asked for a 'meeting of nations' to discuss Syria. Also he does not want any sanction placed on it during the meeting. He has now said the Yemen plan for Assad ot leave is OK with Russia. Even if Assad leaves, this country is headed into civil war and will need peace keepers. JMO.
This meeting of the nations, is Putin's way of by-passing the UN. He know that the UN is in a position to put Russia in this rock and hard place in regards to Syria. So he makes this meeting outside of the UN. One can say that is eating your cake and ice cream at the same time. But the reason he does not want sanctions....is they cut into Assad's ability to pay for Russian military goods and weapons. And they can limit what Russia sends to Syria.
I think that you have the populations composition of Syria wrong. According to the CIA Country fact book it is the following.
Sunni..........74%
Shia and Alawite............16%
Christian...........10%
Jewish and other religions.....less than 1%
Est Population is 22,520,000 in 2012......that is full 6m more that was in Iraq in 2002. Keep it mind. We barely managed 16.6m Iraqi with a 150,000 US force deployment. Annan needs 200,000 peace keepers for Syria.
If that population breakdown is correct. How Assad could get a the recent majority vote on the Syrian constitution with only 16% of the country (Shia and Alawite).
Here are the numbers of recent Syrian Constitution vote.
14.5m are eligdible to vote in Syria
7.49m (89%) voted for the new Constitution
753,000 (9%) voted against the new Constitution
They had a protest vote of blank ballots
of 132,000 (1.3%)
Even Hillary Clinton called this vote a "travesty". No way could Assad get the Sunni 74% majority to vote for his Constitution in such numbers. After 7 months of civil war. No way.
So you have major government corruption inside Syria protecting Assad. Keeping him in power. So sure Putin wants a Yemen plan for another vote. It will be like this one. But it will stop the civil war. This Constitution vote did not. It only gave it fuel.
PS I am not CIA...but I do use their reference materials. It is some of the best.
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How about everyone leaves Syria alone so that the Syrians can sort out their own affairs?
The government of Syria is a matter for the Syrians, nobody else.