God...fact or fiction? ( Archived) (926)

Hi, no, not so much the moral code as I think there are many commendable facets evident in basic moralities.

What I dont get is, despite many contradictions in the Bible (500 or so was my last info), as a youngster, whenever I dared question aloud any of my musings, I would be assured that a 'leap of faith' was what I had to make in order to 'get it' - as an adult I realised that what was being asked of me was not so much a leap of faith as 'blind faith'. I leave you to answer the morality issues inherrent in this matter.

The issue of Jesus and Karl Marx as the spearheads of their ideologies, well yes, I see both as good guys who's teachings, both, were corrupted by ruling classes. What Marx said wasnt quite as mundane os 'the opiate of the masses' his words held much more depth

"Religious distress is at the same time the expression of real distress and the protest against real distress. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions".

Karl Marx, Critique of Hegel’s Philosophy of Right

I think my favourite part of the above quotation is the bit which refers to 'the illusory nature of religion'. Once somebody can come back at some of us 'doubters' with 'acceptable' refutations of words such as these then I would gladly refer to a bible passage of their choice but when sarcastic digs and personal insults rule the day - nah, you are welcome to it - I want no part of perpetuating bad feelings