God...fact or fiction? ( Archived) (926)

Nov 24, 2007 9:40 PM CST God...fact or fiction?
wanderinggnome
wanderinggnomewanderinggnomeBelle Fourche, South Dakota USA5 Threads 688 Posts
What language do you propose?

Are emotions not a fact of our life?

Since they are I maintain it is the scientist who is failing to acknowledge a fact, since I acknowledge scientific facts such as gravity, and electromagnetic force
professor
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Nov 24, 2007 9:44 PM CST God...fact or fiction?
Eupho
EuphoEuphoWild Wild South West, England UK49 Threads 12 Polls 6,581 Posts
::: rubs eyes::;


Steady! it's after 3am in the UK... all I saw was:

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waaaaaaaaaaaaaat??? confused


laugh
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Nov 24, 2007 9:47 PM CST God...fact or fiction?
wanderinggnome
wanderinggnomewanderinggnomeBelle Fourche, South Dakota USA5 Threads 688 Posts
I'll wait for you to catch up.laugh

Just gathering information.
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Nov 24, 2007 9:48 PM CST God...fact or fiction?
Eupho
EuphoEuphoWild Wild South West, England UK49 Threads 12 Polls 6,581 Posts
Come back tomorrow... hahaha
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Nov 24, 2007 9:51 PM CST God...fact or fiction?
wanderinggnome
wanderinggnomewanderinggnomeBelle Fourche, South Dakota USA5 Threads 688 Posts
Since some want to keep everything scientific......... Isn't it already tomorrow there?
confused
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Nov 24, 2007 9:52 PM CST God...fact or fiction?
Eupho
EuphoEuphoWild Wild South West, England UK49 Threads 12 Polls 6,581 Posts
Ermm... yeah... about that. laugh

Well.. after I've SLEPT then laugh
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Nov 24, 2007 9:54 PM CST God...fact or fiction?
wanderinggnome
wanderinggnomewanderinggnomeBelle Fourche, South Dakota USA5 Threads 688 Posts
Its 3 AM, Shouldn't you BE sleeping?
dunno
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Nov 24, 2007 9:56 PM CST God...fact or fiction?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
hell, that sounds more like the radical environmentalist. Because Algore says the world is in peril, everyone's supposed to buy his crap.

(just an observation that has nothing to do w/the topic at hand, although "environmentalism" is becoming a cult with "Earth" being the God.
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Nov 24, 2007 9:59 PM CST God...fact or fiction?
Ashore
AshoreAshoreMilwaukee, Wisconsin USA8 Posts
this whole thread is meant to provide factual information to either prove or disprove the existence of god. since belief and the truth of factual information are two different things i would hope you could refrain from sentimentality as a basis of argument. yes, emotions are a fact of life but thats far from saying that emotions create factual defenses for your side of the argument.
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Nov 24, 2007 9:59 PM CST God...fact or fiction?
Eupho
EuphoEuphoWild Wild South West, England UK49 Threads 12 Polls 6,581 Posts
SHOULD.... yeah.
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Nov 24, 2007 10:00 PM CST God...fact or fiction?
Eupho
EuphoEuphoWild Wild South West, England UK49 Threads 12 Polls 6,581 Posts
:: rubs eyes::

::: looks at clock again:::
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Nov 24, 2007 10:02 PM CST God...fact or fiction?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
No real point to the thread, right?

But it would be funnier than hell about 5 minutes after dying had to stand at the pearly gates for an evaluation. rolling on the floor laughing
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Nov 24, 2007 10:13 PM CST God...fact or fiction?
Ashore
AshoreAshoreMilwaukee, Wisconsin USA8 Posts
pearly gates huh. listen, if i have to believe in Jesus for him to accept me into heaven then i want nothing to do with god. Any god who cant accept me for merely being a good person can flip off. Do you think Ghandi, one of the most peaceful progressives of our time deserves to be in hell? the entire system is flawed, why belief, why not just upstanding morality. the only thing belief systems do well is instill ignorance
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Nov 24, 2007 10:14 PM CST God...fact or fiction?
wanderinggnome
wanderinggnomewanderinggnomeBelle Fourche, South Dakota USA5 Threads 688 Posts
You acknowledge emotions as a fact, correct?

If emotions exist, yet defy scientific definition, then cannot God exist, without 'scientific' proof?

I do not recall seeing a criteria for fact. I have seen a host of philosohers quoted, opinions expressed etc, but nothing that would really bear scientific scrutiny.

At the same time I have NOt scene Bible verses, and have read that the Bible cannot be used as proof, as it is a book, which left out in the rain will fade away.
That IS a fact, verifiable by scientific verification. Also Verifiable is the fact that the bible can be memorized, and copied from memory. See "One Day In The Life Of Ivan Denisovitch"

To ignore the existance of a fact does not make the fact go away.
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Nov 24, 2007 10:15 PM CST God...fact or fiction?
wanderinggnome
wanderinggnomewanderinggnomeBelle Fourche, South Dakota USA5 Threads 688 Posts
Try a cup of coffee??
drinking
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Nov 24, 2007 10:17 PM CST God...fact or fiction?
wanderinggnome
wanderinggnomewanderinggnomeBelle Fourche, South Dakota USA5 Threads 688 Posts
reminds me of the joke about the guy who figures it is better to believe and die into nothinness, than spend your life espousing the lack of an afterlife and arrive without your luggage.
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Nov 24, 2007 10:21 PM CST God...fact or fiction?
wanderinggnome
wanderinggnomewanderinggnomeBelle Fourche, South Dakota USA5 Threads 688 Posts
Why is it so hard to do a simple thing like believe In Jesus? Seems pretty simple to me, especially since there seems to be Archiological evidence to support his existance.

If God is to judge you, exactly what criteria do you propose?
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Nov 24, 2007 10:23 PM CST God...fact or fiction?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
You do have an interesting belief system. wink
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Nov 24, 2007 10:24 PM CST God...fact or fiction?
countryboy67
countryboy67countryboy67Kingston, Tennessee USA10 Threads 186 Posts
You don't get it? He does accept you for just exactly who you are. Is it so much to ask that you accept Him in return?
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Nov 24, 2007 10:26 PM CST God...fact or fiction?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
a person convinced against their will is never convinced~
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