God...fact or fiction? (926)
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No Conrad....that is the answer to "why did the mouse blue?" 
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They saw something what they BELIEVED was a Supreme Being.
Not "WAS" but what they "BELIEVED WAS".
I am not discounting that they saw something,but I am questioning their conclusions,for the reasons laid out in my other posts.
Not "WAS" but what they "BELIEVED WAS".
I am not discounting that they saw something,but I am questioning their conclusions,for the reasons laid out in my other posts.
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From their actions it is clear that they all knew exactly Who they saw.
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A belief is a belief because the believer of that belief has not enough proof to claim it as fact, so anyone that claim to "believe" in the existence of God is in fact stating they have "doubts" about God's existance ..hence "to believe is to doubt"
to pass off a belief in God as truth is to lie to oneself and to others, faith is then used to justify the lying or the delusion.
"to believe is to doubt" ...there is just no way around this logic
to pass off a belief in God as truth is to lie to oneself and to others, faith is then used to justify the lying or the delusion.
"to believe is to doubt" ...there is just no way around this logic
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Why would a God create lesser creatures and sit in judgement of them for committing actions he created and scripted?
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Buster it is you using the word "belief" as a starting point for your argument. We said nothing about believe - we use the word "know" and we repeatedly told you why. If you keep on ignoring what we say then your logic have no merit. So for you to make any sense you will first have to find a good reason why a great number of peoples claim to have met God is false. For you to do this you will have to make the spiritual domain go away. Untill you have managed that you have absolutely nothing to add to this debate except your own belief which we are all quite sceptical about by now.
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I disagree it interprates to me not
I know that I dont know.. but that if I say believe instead of know then I am only trusting others opinions or statements..
I know that I dont know.. but that if I say believe instead of know then I am only trusting others opinions or statements..
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Maybe because a lesser creature chose to place himself outside of this script. Besides God does not sit in judgement of these lesser creatures - that is a Catholic misconception - God is offering them a way to align themselves with the script and with Himself.
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To place trust in others that they may know, means you are relying on faith,
Faith is a verbal and mental agreement to ignore the doubts pertaining to the belief and not seek knowledge beyond the realm of the belief
Faith can only exist where there is a lack of knowledge ...faith is a form of control
"He who says he BELIEVES, means he DOESN'T KNOW, but OTHERS KNOW".
Once they utter the word faith they are hereby exempt from admitting the truth seeking the truth and content not to know the truth.
Faith is a verbal and mental agreement to ignore the doubts pertaining to the belief and not seek knowledge beyond the realm of the belief
Faith can only exist where there is a lack of knowledge ...faith is a form of control
"He who says he BELIEVES, means he DOESN'T KNOW, but OTHERS KNOW".
Once they utter the word faith they are hereby exempt from admitting the truth seeking the truth and content not to know the truth.
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Who said anything about faith (meaning - to believe). To christians the word means "to trust unconditionally". We are human and to trust unconditionally does not come naturally to us - it is something we have to learn but once mastered it has profound implications for this relationship.
You
You
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Who said anything about faith (meaning - to believe). To christians the word means "to trust unconditionally". We are human and to trust unconditionally does not come naturally to us - it is something we have to learn but once mastered it has profound implications for this relationship.
You keep on
You keep on
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Who said anything about faith (meaning - to believe). To christians the word means "to trust unconditionally". We are human and to trust unconditionally does not come naturally to us - it is something we have to learn but once mastered it has profound implications for this relationship.
You keep on using
You keep on using
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Who said anything about faith (meaning - to believe). To christians the word means "to trust unconditionally". We are human and to trust unconditionally does not come naturally to us - it is something we have to learn but once mastered it has profound implications for this relationship.
You keep on using terms
You keep on using terms
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Who said anything about faith (meaning - to believe). To christians the word means "to trust unconditionally". We are human and to trust unconditionally does not come naturally to us - it is something we have to learn but once mastered it has profound implications for this relationship.
You keep on using terms and
You keep on using terms and
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Truth is something that is constant unchanging and can not be disputed to be anything less than fact.
If your truth is not my truth then neither are truth unless sufficient proof can be provided to prove either as truth .... until then they are beliefs and should only be claimed as such
If your truth is not my truth then neither are truth unless sufficient proof can be provided to prove either as truth .... until then they are beliefs and should only be claimed as such
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To believe doesn't require proof, but to then claim the belief as truth and have no proof to make such a claim is called deception, delusion etc.
and why this kind of behavior is encouraged........ is what is in question.
and why this kind of behavior is encouraged........ is what is in question.
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