The Next Superpower in the World (686)

May 22, 2012 8:09 AM CST The Next Superpower in the World
Merriweather
MerriweatherMerriweatherAdelaide, South Australia Australia51 Threads 11,403 Posts
BTW it's background... not' back round'...


unless you run about in circles...banana


popcorn










Jest helpin'ya out with your english edmucation... laugh
May 22, 2012 8:14 AM CST The Next Superpower in the World
Merriweather
MerriweatherMerriweatherAdelaide, South Australia Australia51 Threads 11,403 Posts
mr1983: I think you will find that I wasn't sure of what qualifications were needed for someone working in a compliance department. I was thinking it would include a back-round in economics, law, etc. Check back! And I don't think you have a back-round in either.
And don't talk about strategy!!




popcorn
May 22, 2012 8:29 AM CST The Next Superpower in the World
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Merriweather: BTW it's background... not' back round'... unless you run about in circles...

Jest helpin'ya out with your english edmucation...




wave


Good one MerriWeather


laugh


Finally, someone with an acute point.

These gentlemen have been talking over and over the same subject and addressed the education they both have.

I have seen other misspelled words, for example:


Naïve


For someone very educated and in top positions, those simple spelling mistakes are unacceptable, me thinks.



dunno
May 22, 2012 8:39 AM CST The Next Superpower in the World
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
lifeisadream: Good one MerriWeather Finally, someone with an acute point.

These gentlemen have been talking over and over the same subject and addressed the education they both have.

I have seen other misspelled words, for example:Naïve For someone very educated and in top positions, those simple spelling mistakes are unacceptable, me thinks.


there are such things as typos though.dunno
May 22, 2012 8:51 AM CST The Next Superpower in the World
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
venere08: there are such things as typos though.



Of course there a typos but when someone repeats the same word with the same “typo” then that is not a typo, me thinks.


coffee
May 22, 2012 8:54 AM CST The Next Superpower in the World
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
lifeisadream: Of course there a typos but when someone repeats the same word with the same “typo” then that is not a typo, me thinks.


A kind of cyber stutter?...Cyber tourette's?

wave
May 22, 2012 8:57 AM CST The Next Superpower in the World
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
venere08: A kind of cyber stutter?...Cyber tourette's?



Could be!
(but I do not think so)

laugh

wave
May 22, 2012 9:25 AM CST The Next Superpower in the World
sofarsogood74
sofarsogood74sofarsogood74Dublin, Ireland40 Threads 4 Polls 2,711 Posts
lifeisadream: Good one MerriWeather Finally, someone with an acute point.

These gentlemen have been talking over and over the same subject and addressed the education they both have.

I have seen other misspelled words, for example:Naïve For someone very educated and in top positions, those simple spelling mistakes are unacceptable, me thinks.


If you read the thread you will see Mr decided I did not work in executive management and has had many reason why. (They change depending on his argument at the time and one more ridiculous than the other).

But I don't see how misspelled words are unacceptable on an internet forum really. When someone is typing very quickly misspellings happen all the time.

On a document in work you would run a spell check and correct them but why bother on an internet forum? As long as people get what you are saying who cares about typos and misspelling?dunno

Maybe we should start looking at punctuation too?laugh
May 22, 2012 9:32 AM CST The Next Superpower in the World
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
sofarsogood74: If you read the thread you will see Mr decided I did not work in executive management and has had many reason why. (They change depending on his argument at the time and one more ridiculous than the other).

But I don't see how misspelled words are unacceptable on an internet forum really. When someone is typing very quickly misspellings happen all the time.

On a document in work you would run a spell check and correct them but why bother on an internet forum? As long as people get what you are saying who cares about typos and misspelling?

Maybe we should start looking at punctuation too?


Well I usually podt late et nifht, os one could habe a fielf dau witj my posts??

giggle
May 22, 2012 9:35 AM CST The Next Superpower in the World
sofarsogood74
sofarsogood74sofarsogood74Dublin, Ireland40 Threads 4 Polls 2,711 Posts
venere08: Well I usually podt late et nifht, os one could habe a fielf dau witj my posts??



laugh
May 22, 2012 9:41 AM CST The Next Superpower in the World
sofarsogood74
sofarsogood74sofarsogood74Dublin, Ireland40 Threads 4 Polls 2,711 Posts
Typo from above.


mr1983: ““Where did I say that a company didn't need a compliance department? !!””



sofarsogood74: You said you didn't see why a company would need a financial Compliance DIRECTOR!!!! You cant see why a department that has some very important paperwork going throughn it every day before any other department see it would need a director???? Says it all!
May 22, 2012 1:16 PM CST The Next Superpower in the World
sofarsogood74: They are facts. But they dont PROVE China is in a property bubble!!!!!! I have explained to you why thet are not in one and wont be in one!!!! You can't compare their property market to a market in the West. And I have told you why twice now and I won't again!!!!!!!!

But just to prove you wrong I will quote HSBC chief executive Michael Geoghegan as he dismissed predictions of a Chinese property bubble.
"There'll be some bubbles in some places, but China is a big country, and it won't have a bubble as we understand it in the West," he told an audience at Chatham House, the London think tank. !!!!!!



But you say ALL THE EXPERTS??? You are full of it!!!!!!


Look at the date of Michael Geoghegan's article! It is from 2 years ago when the debate centered around whether there was a property bubble or not. The debate has moved on from that to whether it will result in a soft landing or hard landing.
You tell me your work involves China everyday. Then you bring up an articles from 2 years ago to make a point. You are a full 2 years behind the time, my friend. Since the turn of the year all the debate has centered on whether it will result in a soft landing or hard landing.
May 22, 2012 1:25 PM CST The Next Superpower in the World
It might be your idea of fact as you cant tell the difference between fact and opinion. The catch up effect applies to POORER COUNTRIES. China is the second biggest economy in the world so it can't be applied to it! Now that's a fact!


Your knowledge of what you think the catch-up effect is is complete nonsense. You seem to think "poorer" is the key term in the theory. I will give you a quick rundown of what it is. Pay attention:

The catch-up effect revolves around diminishing returns and marginal analysis. How when productivity or production is effected by the introduction of an extra unit of capital, labour, technology, knowledge.
You might want to check up the microeconomics use of marginal analysis in a firm. Marginal product of labour and marginal cost curves might help you realise what is going on.
Catch-up also involves how certain countries can skip decades of technology enhancements and just start from where the technology,etc is today.

You clearly don't know what catch-up is!
May 22, 2012 1:33 PM CST The Next Superpower in the World
sofarsogood74: I never said GDP Figures were unreliable! Why do you make things up??? Is the truth not working for you or do you not undertsand plain English??? I said if you are measuring GDP per capita like you are then a country like Brunei would have more productive people than the US! Also the cost of living in each country could be vastly differnt!!!!
But as I said they come up with these figures by GDP per capita. Now if these figures were a mark of how productive an economy was then the US would only be 14th in the world (IMF) or 11th (World Bank) depending on who you believe!

Also it does not take the cost of living in a country into account.
The GDP per Capita for a person in the US is 48k. In China its 5.5k. But you give a person in most areas of China 5.5k and they would buy far more with it than a person in the US could with 48K!!!

Also by those figures a person in Luxembourg at 113k is 3 times more productive than a US citizan!! Do you believe this to be the case????

Do you get it now?????


I have asked you did you know what a production function is?? You never answered. This also measures productivity.
You quite clearly don't understand what the GDP(PPP) figure is. Why would you start talking about standards of living with this figure? This figure takes into account standards of living,etc.
May 23, 2012 4:44 AM CST The Next Superpower in the World
sofarsogood74
sofarsogood74sofarsogood74Dublin, Ireland40 Threads 4 Polls 2,711 Posts
mr1983: Your knowledge of what you think the catch-up effect is is complete nonsense. You seem to think "poorer" is the key term in the theory. I will give you a quick rundown of what it is. Pay attention:

The catch-up effect revolves around diminishing returns and marginal analysis. How when productivity or production is effected by the introduction of an extra unit of capital, labour, technology, knowledge. !


So according to that run down it applies to every growing economy!!!!! A growing economy no matter where it is will have introductions of all those things!! An economy needs all those to grow no matter where it is on the scale!!!!!


mr1983: You might want to check up the microeconomics use of marginal analysis in a firm. Marginal product of labour and marginal cost curves might help you realise what is going on.
Catch-up also involves how certain countries can skip decades of technology enhancements and just start from where the technology,etc is today.

You clearly don't know what catch-up is!


You must be just out of college at a late age or something because you are spouting this stuff like you are doing a test but you dont understand it. The catch up effect can't apply to a richer economy like China. It is applied to Germany and Japan after the war by its believers but history shows that it is easier said that done. And the argument is China has caught up with leading countries years ago and is ahead in many technologies like nuclear energy!!!!!! So it doesn't apply!!!!!!!!!

In recent decades only a handful of the world's developing countries mainly in East Asia, have made much progress in catching up to the US. And many of those have failed to stay the full course in catching up. They have fallen into a middle income trap because they failed to keep improving their policies. The path from being a poor country to becoming a middle income country is usually much easier than the next step of graduating to an advanced country.
May 23, 2012 4:44 AM CST The Next Superpower in the World
sofarsogood74
sofarsogood74sofarsogood74Dublin, Ireland40 Threads 4 Polls 2,711 Posts
mr1983: Look at the date of Michael Geoghegan's article! It is from 2 years ago when the debate centered around whether there was a property bubble or not. The debate has moved on from that to whether it will result in a soft landing or hard landing.
You tell me your work involves China everyday. Then you bring up an articles from 2 years ago to make a point. You are a full 2 years behind the time, my friend. Since the turn of the year all the debate has centered on whether it will result in a soft landing or hard landing.


But he is aying you cant compare the Chinese market to the West!!!!! This is exactly what you and all the people you put links up from are doing!!!!!

The debate hasn't moved on with eveyone. Only people who are comparing Chinas property market to those of the west and thinking there is a bubble when there clearly isn't!

I just ws proving to you that there are different opinions out there! You claim every expert and economist thinks there is a bubble which is not the case!

Here is two from a few months ago! Will that do you??? To say every economist thinks there is a bubble is an absolute lie!!! But you do that quite often!!!



May 23, 2012 4:52 AM CST The Next Superpower in the World
sofarsogood74
sofarsogood74sofarsogood74Dublin, Ireland40 Threads 4 Polls 2,711 Posts
mr1983: I have asked you did you know what a production function is?? You never answered. This also measures productivity.
You quite clearly don't understand what the GDP(PPP) figure is. Why would you start talking about standards of living with this figure? This figure takes into account standards of living,etc.


And I asked you do you think a person in Luxembourg is 3 times more productive than a person in the US. Because using your figures from the IMF they are!!!! But you skip over that one don't ya!!!roll eyes

Your production function shows inputs of capital and labour and out puts of goods and services.
And how are those goods and services measured???? By money??? So that would then be added to the countries GDP and contribute to the GDP per Capia ratio!!!!!!!!!

You are spouting this stuff without really knowing what it means. Did you go back to college in your later years and have just finished last year or maybe you are doing exams now??? You seem to think you know everything because you write stuff down like on an exam paper, but you don't really understand it.

How are good and services measured?????? Money!!!! Thats goes on to GDP and you get your GDP per capita ratio!!!!

So cost of living does come into it!!!!!!! roll eyes
May 23, 2012 4:57 AM CST The Next Superpower in the World
sofarsogood74
sofarsogood74sofarsogood74Dublin, Ireland40 Threads 4 Polls 2,711 Posts
mr1983: I have asked you did you know what a production function is?? You never answered. This also measures productivity.
You quite clearly don't understand what the GDP(PPP) figure is. Why would you start talking about standards of living with this figure? This figure takes into account standards of living,etc.


p.s There you go again using words I never used. Lieing again because the truth isn't working for you!

I said COST of living!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not standard of living. The cost of living in Ireland right now is very high, higher than most European countries, it does not mean out standard of living is higher!!!

When you know the difference between the two then come back to me. Google it you are good at that!!!!!laugh
May 23, 2012 9:36 AM CST The Next Superpower in the World
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
popcorn I for one like a knock down and drag out Irish bar brawl. In the movies they always seem to have ...a certain.....broquish elegance.

But just to add a little spice to the Op topic.

The US just had a break thru in welding titanium. It floats the world's first all titanium warship next year. Titanium is 40% lighter than steel. Harder than steel. And will not rust in the marine environment.

I will let the posters consider the implications to making battle tanks, rockets, submarine, offshore oil rigs, commercial vessels and super tankers from titanium, a metal that never rusts.

Also a metal....that while China has the majority of the titanium market, mines and processing plants. That the US has enough to meet it needs in titanium vehicles and ships with out buying China's titanium.
May 23, 2012 8:17 PM CST The Next Superpower in the World
sofarsogood74: But he is aying you cant compare the Chinese market to the West!!!!! This is exactly what you and all the people you put links up from are doing!!!!!

The debate hasn't moved on with eveyone. Only people who are comparing Chinas property market to those of the west and thinking there is a bubble when there clearly isn't!

I just ws proving to you that there are different opinions out there! You claim every expert and economist thinks there is a bubble which is not the case!

Here is two from a few months ago! Will that do you??? To say every economist thinks there is a bubble is an absolute lie!!! But you do that quite often!!!





Have you read your articles that you put up? Both commentators are arguing for a soft landing from what was a property bubble. Did you read the second one? He says clearly that the "property bubble" has been deflated successfully.
How can you use articles to prove there is no property bubble that clearly imply there been one? These two commentators are arguing for a soft-landing.
So as you said before you were "finished with me", I am finished debating with you. I can't believe that someone has as little knowledge of a situation and clearly can't interpret simple articles like above. And you are calling me a joke! That's just ridiculous.
May 23, 2012 8:19 PM CST The Next Superpower in the World
sofarsogood74: So according to that run down it applies to every growing economy!!!!! A growing economy no matter where it is will have introductions of all those things!! An economy needs all those to grow no matter where it is on the scale!!!!!

You must be just out of college at a late age or something because you are spouting this stuff like you are doing a test but you dont understand it. The catch up effect can't apply to a richer economy like China. It is applied to Germany and Japan after the war by its believers but history shows that it is easier said that done. And the argument is China has caught up with leading countries years ago and is ahead in many technologies like nuclear energy!!!!!! So it doesn't apply!!!!!!!!!

In recent decades only a handful of the world's developing countries mainly in East Asia, have made much progress in catching up to the US. And many of those have failed to stay the full course in catching up. They have fallen into a middle income trap because they failed to keep improving their policies. The path from being a poor country to becoming a middle income country is usually much easier than the next step of graduating to an advanced country.


It is pointless talking to you on this point. You clearly don't know what this is.You simply don't understand diminishing returns,etc.
May 23, 2012 8:29 PM CST The Next Superpower in the World
sofarsogood74: p.s There you go again using words I never used. Lieing again because the truth isn't working for you!

I said COST of living!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not standard of living. The cost of living in Ireland right now is very high, higher than most European countries, it does not mean out standard of living is higher!!!

When you know the difference between the two then come back to me. Google it you are good at that!!!!!


My God!! You simply don't understand what you are talking about. How can you state that these two things are completely different. Standard of living incorporates everything. There is a strong positive correlation between standard of living and cost of living.
Why didn't you check this up before you stated I should check it up? This is unbelievable! And if you had bothered to check up what the GDP(PPP) is you would have realised that it is adjusted for cost of living.
So that's me finished with you. Absolutely pointless talking to someone who does not have a clue what he is talking about. You do excel in one area though. Twisting words and nonsense talk! WoW! An executive manager who works with China everyday. WoW!
May 24, 2012 5:28 AM CST The Next Superpower in the World
sofarsogood74
sofarsogood74sofarsogood74Dublin, Ireland40 Threads 4 Polls 2,711 Posts
mr1983: It is pointless talking to you on this point. You clearly don't know what this is.You simply don't understand diminishing returns,etc.


I do understand. And you cant argue with my points that your problem! China has caught up and surpassedc the West in many areas. The catch up effect which basically explains Germany and Japans rise after the War can't be applied to an economy that is the secon largest in the world. The fact you make that statement shows me you haven't a clue. doh roll eyes
May 24, 2012 6:31 AM CST The Next Superpower in the World
sofarsogood74
sofarsogood74sofarsogood74Dublin, Ireland40 Threads 4 Polls 2,711 Posts
mr1983: Why didn't you check this up before you stated I should check it up? This is unbelievable! And if you had bothered to check up what the GDP(PPP) is you would have realised that it is adjusted for cost of living. !



Oh and your GDP(PPP) figures are so acurate that they have Ireland ahead of Germany for 2011. It is saying Irish people are more productive than Germans!!! We are also ahead of France and UK.
The figures also say people in Lux and Qutar are the most productive in the world!

So if you think those figures are an acurate measure of an economy you are more stupid than I thought! roll eyes tongue
Nov 3, 2012 1:01 PM CST The Next Superpower in the World
r3y5a6: Given the decline of USA's influence over economic, diplomatic relation, popularity aspects plus the continued struggling if not turbulent economy.

Choose what country would likely to become the next Superpower.
BUMP
Nov 3, 2012 10:58 PM CST The Next Superpower in the World
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Conrad73: BUMP


How are we defining superpower, by a definition or accepted explanation or just cherry picking facts to apply to a certain country?
Nov 4, 2012 10:12 AM CST The Next Superpower in the World
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Conrad73: BUMP



Bad boy!


I did think on this thread when I did see the other one and was tempted to bump it too.


grin


laugh
Nov 4, 2012 10:18 AM CST The Next Superpower in the World
lifeisadream: Bad boy!I did think on this thread when I did see the other one and was tempted to bump it too.
Aha!laugh
Oct 9, 2013 10:21 PM CST The Next Superpower in the World
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
popcorn
Oct 9, 2013 10:29 PM CST The Next Superpower in the World
Torless
TorlessTorlessChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand9 Threads 1,499 Posts
Deuce......grin the balls is going back and forth so fast doh

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