serene56: What I take away from this is that the opinion of a couple of people on here hopefully does not represent that of a nation
Alternatively, if the people of the United States are so terrified of and paranoid about their fellow citizens that they feel the need to own a gun and are prepared to shoot to kill, it's a place that I would never want to visit and no wonder so many other nations find their warlike mentality reprehensible.
No anyone's opinion on here whether it is their individual and or that of a collective opinion, doesn't represent the nation.
However, there are many reasons why this second Amendment is so important, like I mentioned on my response to your original post, this is rooted from the founding institution of these country. They made sure that there is no government that is corrupt and powerful to disregard the rights of the people. We are armed for that purpose. But yes, there are so many people that can come and harm you in your place of residence and having these guns empower you to kill them before you are killed.
I reiterate, neither these tragedies, justify the removal of such right. But the obvious agenda of the liberals who are already bent to destroy this country will be served best.
lindsyjones: No anyone's opinion on here whether it is their individual and or that of a collective opinion, doesn't represent the nation.
However, there are many reasons why this second Amendment is so important, like I mentioned on my response to your original post, this is rooted from the founding institution of these country. They made sure that there is no government that is corrupt and powerful to disregard the rights of the people. We are armed for that purpose. But yes, there are so many people that can come and harm you in your place of residence and having these guns empower you to kill them before you are killed.
I reiterate, neither these tragedies, justify the removal of such right. But the obvious agenda of the liberals who are already bent to destroy this country will be served best.
If the law is passed.
In reality I said it before and I will say it again. The criminals will always have these guns. It doesn't make sense that a legal, decent and responsible can't own them.
serene56: I just had an epiphany after listening to comments from some American youth (not involved in this tragedy)
Those of you on here who support the right to bear arms are senior citizens (as is your president), perhaps you represent the Old Guard in your country.
The remarks I heard did not represent your long-held views, let's hope your youth has the vigour and drive to remove these antiquated notions and maybe some day America will be great again and innocent lives saved.
The USA has always had guns. So when wasn’t the USA great before if guns made the USA non great? When the USA wrote its constitution people use guns to put food on the table, they still do today. Being such a necessity as guns were in the USA to protect and feed themselves, why would the founding fathers write something into our constitution to prevent people from using guns?
Mentioned before, the day the USA loses its 2nd amendment will be the day people in other countries lose their remaining freedoms and become less tha the serfs they are today. England will once again rise if that happens and try to colonize other countries again but in competition with China and Russia. It will be an end to progress and the dark ages will return upon the earth to deal with climate change and the NWO.
In reality I said it before and I will say it again. The criminals will always have these guns. It doesn't make sense that a legal, decent and responsible can't own them.
I can't help but wondering about how corruption has anything to do with gun control. But let us just say, it is the issue, which is not, I think your country as all other countries with the exception of Switzerland, are all corrupt.
Anyways, I do agree that any country can't be ideal and or perfect, but these are tragedies that are committed by nuts and loonies which has no relation to corruption.
Are you serious? Uncaring? You are joking. We provide the best for the illegals and those who are on welfare, we have the biggest budgets of donation to poor countries and here you are telling the world that we are uncaring?
Did you even listen to the SOTU? He made sure that the Veterans and senior people will get the care they deserve.
How in the world can you say that we are uncaring?
Anyways, the core of this poll is to determine the justification of having gun control as the solution to these unspeakable tragedies.
galrads: The USA has always had guns. So when wasn’t the USA great before if guns made the USA non great? When the USA wrote its constitution people use guns to put food on the table, they still do today. Being such a necessity as guns were in the USA to protect and feed themselves, why would the founding fathers write something into our constitution to prevent people from using guns?
Mentioned before, the day the USA loses its 2nd amendment will be the day people in other countries lose their remaining freedoms and become less tha the serfs they are today. England will once again rise if that happens and try to colonize other countries again but in competition with China and Russia. It will be an end to progress and the dark ages will return upon the earth to deal with climate change and the NWO.
Love it Galrads. If I may add, there is no country in the world that is younger than ours which has achieved such a level of greatness. It is still great, but we can do better. I do know with the current administration we will get there.
galrads: The USA has always had guns. So when wasn’t the USA great before if guns made the USA non great? When the USA wrote its constitution people use guns to put food on the table, they still do today. Being such a necessity as guns were in the USA to protect and feed themselves, why would the founding fathers write something into our constitution to prevent people from using guns?
Mentioned before, the day the USA loses its 2nd amendment will be the day people in other countries lose their remaining freedoms and become less tha the serfs they are today. England will once again rise if that happens and try to colonize other countries again but in competition with China and Russia. It will be an end to progress and the dark ages will return upon the earth to deal with climate change and the NWO.
agree,look at the dry ice/sky king,put in the sw usa for rain,1949 new mexico school shooting,was dry ice a chem like trail,grandfather in florida was at that 1949 school n lost all his brothers n sisters,chem trails today like the dry ice,hm?!
One2note: No surprise to hear of another tragedy in the US & the typical response of tightening gun laws. With a country that is so corrupt, it typifies the uncaring society they live in.
Everyone needs to take responsibility, rather than burdening the blame!
Curious, what standard of measure are you using to label the USA as “so corrupt?” Aren’t you afraid then of guilt by association by communication with others while using CS computers which operate in the USA?
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galrads: Curious, what standard of measure are you using to label the USA as “so corrupt?” Aren’t you afraid then of guilt by association by communication with others while using CS computers which operate in the USA?
I think London is a very corrupt city, look at London city Major who covers up for every terrorists attacks, normalising terrorism act & just about to say ' get over it and shut up' - as well he associates with therrorist too....but not happy to welcome USA President in London and making UK and American relations more difficult.
galrads: Curious, what standard of measure are you using to label the USA as “so corrupt?” Aren’t you afraid then of guilt by association by communication with others while using CS computers which operate in the USA?
Exactly Galrads. I addressed his comment and I just can't believe how he can conjure such an inane idea.
galrads: From a woman to all interested in not ignoring the Truth.....
Don't tell me it's a gun control issue. Don't attempt to even hint that it's the NRA or Trump that is causing this. This.. THIS is a mental health issue that is NOT being addressed in America. We all had bullies in school, we had "weird" kids but they didn't gun down other students. THIS is directly related to a combination of mental health,
Poor parenting, and the pu**y-fication of this nation. When our children don't know what bathroom to use, are offended by everything, and see that they are exonerated from their actions because they can blame it on others.. THAT In itself IS the problem.
Murder is illegal. Drugs are illegal. Yet they still happen. Calling for stronger gun laws isn't the answer. It isn't the gun.. start holding the perpetrator responsible, and the system(s) that failed them.
The systems failed this perp in Florida....
Yes, I have posted an analysis that this is about mental illness.
Reagan was so unkind and unrealistic in closing down those facilities that used to take care of them.
That's what we need to address pronto in order to fix these problems. We need to bring back those facilities.
Conrad posted a document that demonstrates the authority's awareness of his mental disorder. Had they delegated this concern and had him locked up in a mental ward, this escalation would have been prevented. But no. They left him to mingle in the normal world.
Miwagi: All the bleeding hearts need to watch this video before commenting anymore.
yes,BLM said kill white women n less white babys,etc.on facebook,they didnt get a ban,but i did on my reply on death to america,muslim got no ban,u call em name,when they talk of killin white u get the ban?!hm.
Thanks for posting stringman. But alas you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. Here is one more example of what has been happening here for quite a while now. This is Denver, Colorado in 2009.
Guns don´t pull the trigger, people do. Besides, how are you going to control illegally owned guns? Taking guns away from us is going to make us vulnerable, that´s all.
JohnrynNC: Guns don´t pull the trigger, people do. Besides, how are you going to control illegally owned guns? Taking guns away from us is going to make us vulnerable, that´s all.
appears the FBI had been warned more than once about Cruz , last time about a month ago quite specifically about his intentions . This guy was let through to do just what he did .
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