Is gun control the solution to these unspeakable tragedies? (603)
MiwagiFlyover, Kentucky USA47 Threads 2 Polls 1,753 PostsBox cutters and sheeple in the seats. Except for one plane that crashed in Pennsylvania with heros on board.
There are many things rolled into one for murderers. It's not all mental. Mental has been fed and created with continual drop in standards all around. As long as those standards are warped and lowered; they will steer people and media to say mental instead of ever admitting it's the sissified, medicated, demoralized system in place now.
It still points to government, education, people, and the lowered standards of the nation over all.
Crime didn't go away in any country as the "fire arm"count got lower. I've even seen past news reports of law enforcement looking the other way on certain types of crimes( kind of like our own federal agencies). Those crimes will take place but be brushed off and maybe more often than not, unreported because it would go no where.
Why have the standards dropped that every one but our children, are entitled to be protected by fire arm? What is money protected with? Yet they say you can't put a price on human life.
Since our children are protected with a sign instead of the same security afforded politicians, currency, celebrities, and more; I'd say the government and the people that think controlling law abiding citizens is the way to go, already have put a price on life. It's always going to be what every they say it is instead trying to secure and defend it.
It still points to government, education, people, and the lowered standards of the nation over all.
Crime didn't go away in any country as the "fire arm"count got lower. I've even seen past news reports of law enforcement looking the other way on certain types of crimes( kind of like our own federal agencies). Those crimes will take place but be brushed off and maybe more often than not, unreported because it would go no where.
Why have the standards dropped that every one but our children, are entitled to be protected by fire arm? What is money protected with? Yet they say you can't put a price on human life.
Since our children are protected with a sign instead of the same security afforded politicians, currency, celebrities, and more; I'd say the government and the people that think controlling law abiding citizens is the way to go, already have put a price on life. It's always going to be what every they say it is instead trying to secure and defend it.
crazyblondeone: 9/11 not one gun was used in that and 2,996 were killed over 6,000 wounded.
Absolutely. Guns are not the problem. People are. Deranged and nuts specially.
raphael119: Damn, with your gun you could have shot Ben Laden and his plane out of the sky!
Ill leave you to to your fools errand, thanks for the chuckles.
Cured your Hoplophobia yet,Raph?Ill leave you to to your fools errand, thanks for the chuckles.
Conrad73: Cured your Hoplophobia yet,Raph?
hes still in the closet gay dem,lol.Australians own as many guns as in 1996 - ABC News (Australian ...
Jan 13, 2013 - Map: Australia. A study has found Australians now own as many guns as they did at the time of the Port Arthur shootings in 1996. More than 1 million guns were destroyed in the aftermath of the massacre, but research shows Australians have restocked over the past 10 years, importing more than 1 million firearms.
Is it total BS?
Yep its total BS. Ask if they're the exact same type of guns, and if we've ever had a mass shooting since...
It would seem to me that those who want or need guns legally have no problems (evidenced by the numbers of guns legally imported here), and those with bad intentions cant easily get their hands on their weapon of choice. Its not just the guns though, you cant own a bullet proof vest here either.
Jan 13, 2013 - Map: Australia. A study has found Australians now own as many guns as they did at the time of the Port Arthur shootings in 1996. More than 1 million guns were destroyed in the aftermath of the massacre, but research shows Australians have restocked over the past 10 years, importing more than 1 million firearms.
Is it total BS?
Yep its total BS. Ask if they're the exact same type of guns, and if we've ever had a mass shooting since...
It would seem to me that those who want or need guns legally have no problems (evidenced by the numbers of guns legally imported here), and those with bad intentions cant easily get their hands on their weapon of choice. Its not just the guns though, you cant own a bullet proof vest here either.
Mickmjb: Don't know, in the UK only handguns, where banned, full auto shotguns had to be modified so they could take 3 cartridges Max, it may be 2 now not sure, but getting a licence is tougher. Although any law abiding citizen wouldn't be refused..you get checked out regularly by the police, they have to be kept in a steel locker, etc. You also have to get your application form signed by your doctor! I'd imagine we have just as many guns now as before so the same maybe true in Australia!
What FULL AUTO Shotguns?WTF?
Another good reason to own an AR15.
Try that with a 12 gage shotgun
Try that with a 12 gage shotgun
Miwagi: Another good reason to own an AR15.
Try that with a 12 gage shotgun
Try that with a 12 gage shotgun
Miwagi: Another good reason to own an AR15.
Try that with a 12 gage shotgun
dems want ppl control,dems kill ppl,how many NRA shootings do u see/none!its off their meds dems.Try that with a 12 gage shotgun
Miwagi: Last I checked you were living on an island. We have a 2,000 mile unsecured border with a lawless country full of murderers and drug cartels. Also Google MS-13 sometime. Apples to oranges me thinks.
And we have Mexico bellow us too.
I'll have to bow to your superior knowledge then... Do nothing, and hope things change. Get tooled up to the back teeth with the most lethal and destructive weapons you can get your hands on, with little or no security checks, because you share land borders with Mexico and Canada. Take no notice of anywhere else that has been through the exact same thing, because ...you got to the moon first?
Meh, I'm sure we'll have the same difference of opinion after the next mass shooting, a friendly wager it wont be six months away. How sad is that, Russian roulette on a grand scale, for what? Oh thats right, in case you need to form a militia and overthrow the government (which has helicopter gunships and warplanes, not to mention the button)...
Meh, I'm sure we'll have the same difference of opinion after the next mass shooting, a friendly wager it wont be six months away. How sad is that, Russian roulette on a grand scale, for what? Oh thats right, in case you need to form a militia and overthrow the government (which has helicopter gunships and warplanes, not to mention the button)...
It is pure negligence and it could've been prevented.
Justifies the Colorado schools to arm and train all teachers and staff.
Combine awareness to monitor mental illness.
...By the time you do all that, it would be a lot cheaper, easier and more effective to have sensible gun laws. Just sayin'
Justifies the Colorado schools to arm and train all teachers and staff.
Combine awareness to monitor mental illness.
...By the time you do all that, it would be a lot cheaper, easier and more effective to have sensible gun laws. Just sayin'
And of course, we are already hearing of the "lone wolf" exception. so even if you arm and train so many tens of thousands of teachers and staff, if there's a shooting its fine, they were a lone wolf. Nothing to see here folks move on.
Canada and Oz both have strict immigration policies. USA has pretty much open borders. Canada has about 36 million people and a huge land area. USA has 326 million people and growing fast. Canada does not have a country like Mexico on it's border. Canada does not have MS-13 gangs, do they? Canada does not have free speech. Canada is PC. I had a friend who was moving to Alaska because she had a job there with the Social Security office in Anchorage. and Canada denied her a visa to drive through because she had a 4-year old DUI on her record. Her and her husband had to pay thousands of dollars to have their cars ferried up because of ridiculous Canadian oppression. Canada is not the USA.
We've had strict border control policies for about 10 years. We've had sensible gun laws for about 25 years. There were no mass shootings in that 15 year period between.
Next!...
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pat8lanips: We've had strict border control policies for about 10 years. We've had sensible gun laws for about 25 years. There were no mass shootings in that 15 year period between.
Next!...
Next!...
Well good on ya mate. Our country has become to big and too diverse to govern. We are just a huge bunch of people with many differences and nothing much in common. The end of an empire is messy at best. Not sure what else to tell you.
pat8lanips: We've had strict border control policies for about 10 years. We've had sensible gun laws for about 25 years. There were no mass shootings in that 15 year period between.
Next!...
all ain't so well in Aussieland!Next!...
Miwagi: Well good on ya mate. Our country has become to big and too diverse to govern. We are just a huge bunch of people with many differences and nothing much in common. The end of an empire is messy at best. Not sure what else to tell you.
too much power concentrated in the hands of the Feds,too centralized!Never works well in the long run!
Is there anything from a reputable source?
Conrad73: all ain't so well in Aussieland!
You just pulled the curtain back on the professor Toto.
No, I mean a reputable source of information, reason.com isn't going to cut it
pat8lanips: No, I mean a reputable source of information, reason.com isn't going to cut it
No gun laws tgat I'm referring 2us the inability of decent people to buy guns for protection.
How many times have you needed to use your gun to protect yourself, lindsy?
Harbal: How many times have you needed to use your gun to protect yourself, lindsy?
It's not a matter of hoiw many times Harbal, thank God, not one chance yet. But main point on our constitutional rights is when the government becomes powerful and wed need to protect ourselves.
lindsyjones: It's not a matter of hoiw many times Harbal, thank God, not one chance yet. But main point on our constitutional rights is when the government becomes powerful and wed need to protect ourselves.
the right to keep n bear arms,like to know i can protect my home n be in public safely a cop isnt always there,then try 911 n carry chalk lay down n draw around ur body,better safe than sorry.reb56: the right to keep n bear arms,like to know i can protect my home n be in public safely a cop isnt always there,then try 911 n carry chalk lay down n draw around ur body,better safe than sorry.
Like that Reb better safe than sorry.
I'll kill them before they take my life. Yes.
Like these Islam terrorist that hate us American so much, I'd kill them first if I can. I'm not the one advocating to kill them, they do.
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