Is gun control the solution to these unspeakable tragedies? (603)

Feb 21, 2018 5:44 PM CST Is gun control the solution to these unspeakable tragedies?
Harbal: How many times have you needed to use your gun to protect yourself, lindsy?


It isn't about how many times a person needs to use their gun, it is about feeling safe.
Feb 21, 2018 5:48 PM CST Is gun control the solution to these unspeakable tragedies?
Gun control works great in Canada dunno
Feb 21, 2018 7:48 PM CST Is gun control the solution to these unspeakable tragedies?
Let_Us
Let_UsLet_UsAnaheim, California USA9 Threads 1,017 Posts
Harbal: How many times have you needed to use your gun to protect yourself, lindsy?


lindsyjones: It's not a matter of hoiw many times Harbal, thank God, not one chance yet. But main point on our constitutional rights is when the government becomes powerful and wed need to protect ourselves.


As Lindsey says, Harbal, it's NOT a matter of how many times you've NEEDED it, it's HOW MANY TIMES you WILL NEED it! The past can NEVER be changed, Harbal! So it's ONLY the present AND the future, we're concerned about, here! But, AS USUAL, YOU completely MISS the "essence" of the conversation! frustrated
Feb 21, 2018 8:21 PM CST Is gun control the solution to these unspeakable tragedies?
crazyblondeone: It isn't about how many times a person needs to use their gun, it is about feeling safe.


Absolutely crazy.
Feb 21, 2018 8:26 PM CST Is gun control the solution to these unspeakable tragedies?
Let_Us: Harbal: How many times have you needed to use your gun to protect yourself, lindsy?


lindsyjones: It's not a matter of hoiw many times Harbal, thank God, not one chance yet. But main point on our constitutional rights is when the government becomes powerful and wed need to protect ourselves.


As Lindsey says, Harbal, it's NOT a matter of how many times you've NEEDED it, it's HOW MANY TIMES you WILL NEED it! The past can NEVER be changed, Harbal! So it's ONLY the present AND the future, we're concerned about, here! But, AS USUAL, YOU completely MISS the "essence" of the conversation!


Exactly Let. Tell him.

The truth is that these islam whether they admit it to themselves or not, want us all to be killed. It is in their book and they have started it since the year 700. If you look at the whole of the Middle East, there was not a single muslim then.

So is it really wrong for us to think that they are out to kill us all, even though they don't say it in our face? Deep down that is their goal and why not, it is part of their book. Go figure.
Feb 22, 2018 8:22 AM CST Is gun control the solution to these unspeakable tragedies?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
Talk of arming the teachers with guns now, which would make perfect sense... in Syria.
Feb 22, 2018 8:26 AM CST Is gun control the solution to these unspeakable tragedies?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
ChesneyChrist: Talk of arming the teachers with guns now, which would make perfect sense... in Syria.


This scene from a show made 20 years was at the time a spoof, a parody on Americans.



But no joke can be more ridiculous than how you really are.
Feb 22, 2018 8:39 AM CST Is gun control the solution to these unspeakable tragedies?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
ChesneyChrist: This scene from a show made 20 years was at the time a spoof, a parody on Americans.



But no joke can be more ridiculous than how you really are.
confused wave
Feb 22, 2018 4:14 PM CST Is gun control the solution to these unspeakable tragedies?
pat8lanips
pat8lanipspat8lanipsbabinda, Queensland Australia67 Threads 14 Polls 6,372 Posts
I see that the latest plan is to arm teachers with guns. What happens in the cafeteria? arm the ladies there too I guess. Then the bus ride home, arm the bus driver I suppose. Of course, the sports coach will need to carry a piece, as will the librarians...
Then take a look at school uniforms, kevlar vests make perfect sense really, and obviously they're going to need helmets.
Maybe limit each student to 3 hand grenades each, or their packs will be too heavy and cumbersome to carry around in the freshly dug trenches.

It would be funny if it wasn't so serious.
Feb 23, 2018 6:16 AM CST Is gun control the solution to these unspeakable tragedies?
reb56
reb56reb56carthage, Missouri USA55 Polls 8,629 Posts
lindsyjones: Like that Reb better safe than sorry.

I'll kill them before they take my life. Yes.

Like these Islam terrorist that hate us American so much, I'd kill them first if I can. I'm not the one advocating to kill them, they do.
u bet,its just a gun grab,more ppl are killed by knives n cars,etc.guns are last on the list,but 1st on dem commies/satanist list,i say target practice on em is fine the turncoat dems n rino for the NWO,its us or them!
Feb 23, 2018 6:46 AM CST Is gun control the solution to these unspeakable tragedies?
Yes, LS, unspeakable, but hardly unfixable. You probably know where I stand on our precious second amendment rights, recently confirmed and expanded by the Supreme Court. We all recall when air hijackings using weapons were all too common, some two decades ago. The hidden presence of armed air marshals, along with even the not always so competent preflight security measures, and hardened locked cockpit cabins, sometimes with armed flight crew, has completely eliminated the problem. Well thought out spinoffs of the previous sentence will yield most of the solution. Signs saying "This School is a Gun Free Zone", really say," Come on in and Murder Our Kids". Two parts of the remainder. Completely revamping the out of control ueber liberal culture, reinstating, to name just two, personal responsibility and family/community values, would help. Could do the same with our politicized FBI while we are at it. Ain't holding my breath here. But it would be possible to focus more scientifically and seriously on the perps. Strategies to identify these trouble young men and to get them effective help aren't 100% effective, but need not be to put a big dent in the problem. Communities often know these troubled youth---teachers, cops, clergy, mental health workers, neighbors, parents, teachers and even students---as we know. Anonymous reports to guide regular meetings of volunteer committees of such folks could help identify these potential killers, and the power of the courts could then get them into treatment. Not rocket science, and similar approaches exist for other problems. Of course, we need real interventions to morph bullies into sensitive concerned helpers. Aa-V.
Feb 23, 2018 7:52 AM CST Is gun control the solution to these unspeakable tragedies?
reb56
reb56reb56carthage, Missouri USA55 Polls 8,629 Posts
gun free zones is killary n dems PC b/s n they get the commoncored idiots out to protest/after eating tide balls n licking the their crapper,sad.more folks get killed by knifes than guns,cars kill more ppl,killary n dems can fund over 1/2 a billion dollars to baby killer clinics/who give dems alot of money n killary,they have no use for school kids,but to use them after a shooting to gun grab,then cnn stages questions at a gun grab townhall meetings,im really tired of dems n fake news,dems shoot our kids,then say peace n we want ur guns,hm.same ol song n dance,time to return fire!
Feb 23, 2018 10:27 PM CST Is gun control the solution to these unspeakable tragedies?
bohemianjack
bohemianjackbohemianjackEast Central, Minnesota USA6 Threads 2 Polls 2,701 Posts
reb56: gun free zones is killary n dems PC b/s n they get the commoncored idiots out to protest/after eating tide balls n licking the their crapper,sad.more folks get killed by knifes than guns,cars kill more ppl,killary n dems can fund over 1/2 a billion dollars to baby killer clinics/who give dems alot of money n killary,they have no use for school kids,but to use them after a shooting to gun grab,then cnn stages questions at a gun grab townhall meetings,im really tired of dems n fake news,dems shoot our kids,then say peace n we want ur guns,hm.same ol song n dance,time to return fire!


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Stupid conservative conference is a gun free zone.. laugh
Feb 24, 2018 8:09 AM CST Is gun control the solution to these unspeakable tragedies?
reb56
reb56reb56carthage, Missouri USA55 Polls 8,629 Posts
bohemianjack: Stupid conservative conference is a gun free zone..
n look at the nut who tossed something at trump,thats why,no guns around obozo n killary,unless it was secret service,etc.
Feb 24, 2018 9:29 AM CST Is gun control the solution to these unspeakable tragedies?
bohemianjack: Stupid conservative conference is a gun free zone..
a bit context-dropping,hey Jack?confused
Feb 24, 2018 7:03 PM CST Is gun control the solution to these unspeakable tragedies?
Randy762ak
Randy762akRandy762akMartinsburg WV, West Virginia USA13 Posts
NO ITS NOT--We have armed security-So we dont have to ,,Sheesh !
Feb 24, 2018 7:35 PM CST Is gun control the solution to these unspeakable tragedies?
Randy762ak
Randy762akRandy762akMartinsburg WV, West Virginia USA13 Posts
bohemianjack: Stupid conservative conference is a gun free zone.. to the above post
Feb 24, 2018 10:50 PM CST Is gun control the solution to these unspeakable tragedies?
Mercedes_00
Mercedes_00Mercedes_00Greater Sydney, New South Wales Australia18 Threads 20,456 Posts
Gun control has helped Australia/Canada/UK and it wouldn't hurt to trial something.
Feb 25, 2018 2:33 AM CST Is gun control the solution to these unspeakable tragedies?
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Feb 25, 2018 8:07 AM CST Is gun control the solution to these unspeakable tragedies?
reb56
reb56reb56carthage, Missouri USA55 Polls 8,629 Posts
conrad is right,ive called then target zones for yrs.by dems for nuts,etc.to shoot.
Feb 25, 2018 12:14 PM CST Is gun control the solution to these unspeakable tragedies?
woodenjc
woodenjcwoodenjcHouston, Texas USA2 Threads 308 Posts
it is a tough thread for discussion, actually i do not know how deep the control level us government involved in this area, myself just feel very pity for the victims of unexpected and suddent shooting battle at shool or public place, if the victims are our beloved, speakless and countless pain we have to suffer for long years later. I myself may buy one gun in future to protect myself when living here grin
Feb 25, 2018 2:11 PM CST Is gun control the solution to these unspeakable tragedies?
reb56
reb56reb56carthage, Missouri USA55 Polls 8,629 Posts
woodenjc: it is a tough thread for discussion, actually i do not know how deep the control level us government involved in this area, myself just feel very pity for the victims of unexpected and suddent shooting battle at shool or public place, if the victims are our beloved, speakless and countless pain we have to suffer for long years later. I myself may buy one gun in future to protect myself when living here
i got 2 handguns 1 9mm n shotgun for home n a .380 to conceal n carry,no lic.needed in MO.AS of jan.1st,2017,.380 u can carry in ur pocket men n good for small areas,good for the lady,low recoil.
Feb 25, 2018 4:57 PM CST Is gun control the solution to these unspeakable tragedies?
KarloradoFL
KarloradoFLKarloradoFLDeLeon Springs, Florida USA50 Threads 3 Polls 9,475 Posts
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Feb 25, 2018 5:24 PM CST Is gun control the solution to these unspeakable tragedies?
askmrknowitallno
askmrknowitallnoaskmrknowitallnosan jose,ca, California USA14 Posts
When you have a complicated problem, it is generally made up of compound problems. Meaning more than one problem. There is no single solution to multiple problems. Certainly gun control is a part of the solution which must be considered. As long as you have criminal, mentally ill people, and people with anger management problems ( and you always will) someone is going to shoot someone. Consider: Obviously, if I have a single shot Musket, which I have to reload after each shot, I'm going to be able to kill fewer people than if I have a machine gun.
There are laws on the books right now which say, murder is against the law. Yet every morning you read about how many people were murdered. That's because you can't legislate morality.
Feb 25, 2018 11:38 PM CST Is gun control the solution to these unspeakable tragedies?
bohemianjack
bohemianjackbohemianjackEast Central, Minnesota USA6 Threads 2 Polls 2,701 Posts
Randy762ak: NO ITS NOT--We have armed security-So we dont have to ,,Sheesh !


YOU have armed security? Want to see what I've got? Come at me bro!.. laugh

Using Rump's logic we should let everyone carry and not need to pay for armed security. I can imagine the White House, Congress, courts and other government installations expected to cover their own security with conceal and carry, not to mention going to sporting events or Trump rallies where you don't know who has a gun. Similarly expect teachers to do their own security against past and present students with disciplinary problems and a grudge is beyond stupid.. roll eyes
Feb 25, 2018 11:53 PM CST Is gun control the solution to these unspeakable tragedies?
woodenjc
woodenjcwoodenjcHouston, Texas USA2 Threads 308 Posts
reb56: i got 2 handguns 1 9mm n shotgun for home n a .380 to conceal n carry,no lic.needed in MO.AS of jan.1st,2017,.380 u can carry in ur pocket men n good for small areas,good for the lady,low recoil.

I think a shotgun will be suitable for me grin I need to learn how to use a gun firstly wave
Feb 26, 2018 1:43 AM CST Is gun control the solution to these unspeakable tragedies?
askmrknowitallno: When you have a complicated problem, it is generally made up of compound problems. Meaning more than one problem. There is no single solution to multiple problems. Certainly gun control is a part of the solution which must be considered. As long as you have criminal, mentally ill people, and people with anger management problems ( and you always will) someone is going to shoot someone. Consider: Obviously, if I have a single shot Musket, which I have to reload after each shot, I'm going to be able to kill fewer people than if I have a machine gun.
There are laws on the books right now which say, murder is against the law. Yet every morning you read about how many people were murdered. That's because you can't legislate morality.

yep,Criminals obey Gunlaws so perfectly!laugh
Feb 26, 2018 6:33 AM CST Is gun control the solution to these unspeakable tragedies?
reb56
reb56reb56carthage, Missouri USA55 Polls 8,629 Posts
Conrad73: yep,Criminals obey Gunlaws so perfectly!
thats what is wrong in chicago now,ppl buy guns for gangs,fed law 10 yrs.in jail n life if used in a murder,these laws are on the books,atty.gen.sessions use the laws,no more gun control laws!
Feb 26, 2018 10:52 AM CST Is gun control the solution to these unspeakable tragedies?
Conrad73: yep,Criminals obey Gunlaws so perfectly!


laugh I join you C.wave
Feb 26, 2018 1:54 PM CST Is gun control the solution to these unspeakable tragedies?
reb56
reb56reb56carthage, Missouri USA55 Polls 8,629 Posts
hope u do soon.
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