Harbal: How many times have you needed to use your gun to protect yourself, lindsy?
lindsyjones: It's not a matter of hoiw many times Harbal, thank God, not one chance yet. But main point on our constitutional rights is when the government becomes powerful and wed need to protect ourselves.
As Lindsey says, Harbal, it's NOT a matter of how many times you've NEEDED it, it's HOW MANY TIMES you WILL NEED it! The past can NEVER be changed, Harbal! So it's ONLY the present AND the future, we're concerned about, here! But, AS USUAL, YOU completely MISS the "essence" of the conversation!
Let_Us: Harbal: How many times have you needed to use your gun to protect yourself, lindsy?
lindsyjones: It's not a matter of hoiw many times Harbal, thank God, not one chance yet. But main point on our constitutional rights is when the government becomes powerful and wed need to protect ourselves.
As Lindsey says, Harbal, it's NOT a matter of how many times you've NEEDED it, it's HOW MANY TIMES you WILL NEED it! The past can NEVER be changed, Harbal! So it's ONLY the present AND the future, we're concerned about, here! But, AS USUAL, YOU completely MISS the "essence" of the conversation!
Exactly Let. Tell him.
The truth is that these islam whether they admit it to themselves or not, want us all to be killed. It is in their book and they have started it since the year 700. If you look at the whole of the Middle East, there was not a single muslim then.
So is it really wrong for us to think that they are out to kill us all, even though they don't say it in our face? Deep down that is their goal and why not, it is part of their book. Go figure.
I see that the latest plan is to arm teachers with guns. What happens in the cafeteria? arm the ladies there too I guess. Then the bus ride home, arm the bus driver I suppose. Of course, the sports coach will need to carry a piece, as will the librarians... Then take a look at school uniforms, kevlar vests make perfect sense really, and obviously they're going to need helmets. Maybe limit each student to 3 hand grenades each, or their packs will be too heavy and cumbersome to carry around in the freshly dug trenches.
lindsyjones: Like that Reb better safe than sorry.
I'll kill them before they take my life. Yes.
Like these Islam terrorist that hate us American so much, I'd kill them first if I can. I'm not the one advocating to kill them, they do.
u bet,its just a gun grab,more ppl are killed by knives n cars,etc.guns are last on the list,but 1st on dem commies/satanist list,i say target practice on em is fine the turncoat dems n rino for the NWO,its us or them!
Yes, LS, unspeakable, but hardly unfixable. You probably know where I stand on our precious second amendment rights, recently confirmed and expanded by the Supreme Court. We all recall when air hijackings using weapons were all too common, some two decades ago. The hidden presence of armed air marshals, along with even the not always so competent preflight security measures, and hardened locked cockpit cabins, sometimes with armed flight crew, has completely eliminated the problem. Well thought out spinoffs of the previous sentence will yield most of the solution. Signs saying "This School is a Gun Free Zone", really say," Come on in and Murder Our Kids". Two parts of the remainder. Completely revamping the out of control ueber liberal culture, reinstating, to name just two, personal responsibility and family/community values, would help. Could do the same with our politicized FBI while we are at it. Ain't holding my breath here. But it would be possible to focus more scientifically and seriously on the perps. Strategies to identify these trouble young men and to get them effective help aren't 100% effective, but need not be to put a big dent in the problem. Communities often know these troubled youth---teachers, cops, clergy, mental health workers, neighbors, parents, teachers and even students---as we know. Anonymous reports to guide regular meetings of volunteer committees of such folks could help identify these potential killers, and the power of the courts could then get them into treatment. Not rocket science, and similar approaches exist for other problems. Of course, we need real interventions to morph bullies into sensitive concerned helpers. Aa-V.
gun free zones is killary n dems PC b/s n they get the commoncored idiots out to protest/after eating tide balls n licking the their crapper,sad.more folks get killed by knifes than guns,cars kill more ppl,killary n dems can fund over 1/2 a billion dollars to baby killer clinics/who give dems alot of money n killary,they have no use for school kids,but to use them after a shooting to gun grab,then cnn stages questions at a gun grab townhall meetings,im really tired of dems n fake news,dems shoot our kids,then say peace n we want ur guns,hm.same ol song n dance,time to return fire!
reb56: gun free zones is killary n dems PC b/s n they get the commoncored idiots out to protest/after eating tide balls n licking the their crapper,sad.more folks get killed by knifes than guns,cars kill more ppl,killary n dems can fund over 1/2 a billion dollars to baby killer clinics/who give dems alot of money n killary,they have no use for school kids,but to use them after a shooting to gun grab,then cnn stages questions at a gun grab townhall meetings,im really tired of dems n fake news,dems shoot our kids,then say peace n we want ur guns,hm.same ol song n dance,time to return fire!
Stupid conservative conference is a gun free zone..
it is a tough thread for discussion, actually i do not know how deep the control level us government involved in this area, myself just feel very pity for the victims of unexpected and suddent shooting battle at shool or public place, if the victims are our beloved, speakless and countless pain we have to suffer for long years later. I myself may buy one gun in future to protect myself when living here
woodenjc: it is a tough thread for discussion, actually i do not know how deep the control level us government involved in this area, myself just feel very pity for the victims of unexpected and suddent shooting battle at shool or public place, if the victims are our beloved, speakless and countless pain we have to suffer for long years later. I myself may buy one gun in future to protect myself when living here
i got 2 handguns 1 9mm n shotgun for home n a .380 to conceal n carry,no lic.needed in MO.AS of jan.1st,2017,.380 u can carry in ur pocket men n good for small areas,good for the lady,low recoil.
Feb 25, 2018 5:24 PM CST Is gun control the solution to these unspeakable tragedies?
askmrknowitallnosan jose,ca, California USA14 Posts
askmrknowitallnosan jose,ca, California USA14 posts
When you have a complicated problem, it is generally made up of compound problems. Meaning more than one problem. There is no single solution to multiple problems. Certainly gun control is a part of the solution which must be considered. As long as you have criminal, mentally ill people, and people with anger management problems ( and you always will) someone is going to shoot someone. Consider: Obviously, if I have a single shot Musket, which I have to reload after each shot, I'm going to be able to kill fewer people than if I have a machine gun. There are laws on the books right now which say, murder is against the law. Yet every morning you read about how many people were murdered. That's because you can't legislate morality.
Randy762ak: NO ITS NOT--We have armed security-So we dont have to ,,Sheesh !
YOU have armed security? Want to see what I've got? Come at me bro!..
Using Rump's logic we should let everyone carry and not need to pay for armed security. I can imagine the White House, Congress, courts and other government installations expected to cover their own security with conceal and carry, not to mention going to sporting events or Trump rallies where you don't know who has a gun. Similarly expect teachers to do their own security against past and present students with disciplinary problems and a grudge is beyond stupid..
reb56: i got 2 handguns 1 9mm n shotgun for home n a .380 to conceal n carry,no lic.needed in MO.AS of jan.1st,2017,.380 u can carry in ur pocket men n good for small areas,good for the lady,low recoil.
I think a shotgun will be suitable for me I need to learn how to use a gun firstly
askmrknowitallno: When you have a complicated problem, it is generally made up of compound problems. Meaning more than one problem. There is no single solution to multiple problems. Certainly gun control is a part of the solution which must be considered. As long as you have criminal, mentally ill people, and people with anger management problems ( and you always will) someone is going to shoot someone. Consider: Obviously, if I have a single shot Musket, which I have to reload after each shot, I'm going to be able to kill fewer people than if I have a machine gun. There are laws on the books right now which say, murder is against the law. Yet every morning you read about how many people were murdered. That's because you can't legislate morality.
Conrad73: yep,Criminals obey Gunlaws so perfectly!
thats what is wrong in chicago now,ppl buy guns for gangs,fed law 10 yrs.in jail n life if used in a murder,these laws are on the books,atty.gen.sessions use the laws,no more gun control laws!
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It isn't about how many times a person needs to use their gun, it is about feeling safe.