The OT was also based in the Law which ordered the stoning death of all "heathens" and "sinners". This just happened to include young women who were discovered (or mistakenly believed) to not be virgins.
You can’t simply pick and choose. That’s referred to as being a "designer Christian."
So in other words, if I ordered that 115,000 people be put to death based on my law but then later decided maybe that wasn’t the best approach, you would simply forget that this ever occurred?
I’m not asking that you give me replies that "appeal to me." I’m asking that you give any answer at all. I’m asking why you would choose to place your faith in such an ugly train wreck of a deity when clearly you have other options. That is a question you can ask yourself of course.
Uhhh. Care to explain this statement for us?
7:4 For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.
God is love?
Based on your posts thus far, I must disagree.
So god is telling you right now that you are not to defend him?
Yes that has been made abundantly clear. I am not here to attack your personal beliefs or you. Of course not. However if you choose to call yourself "Christian" then some of these issues found within scripture require your attention. Fair enough.
Then perhaps you can ask for the "Holy Spirit" to explain why Yahweh would demand these atrocities?
No. I wish to understand for myself. Not be told by anyone else how I should redefine hatred and jealousy.
Consult my statement above.
And you have determined this how? So far I have merely pointed out that you are clearly unfamiliar with the bible.
So in your mind it is perfectly acceptable that your god required by Law that young women presumed not to be virgins were stoned to death? Have you read the bible? Are you unaware that blood sacrifice is demanded repeatedly? You do realize this occurs time and time again and is not limited to Jesus. Scroll up a bit for the list of reasons why humans were stoned to death without due process. Both male and female. That is NOT getting swept under the rug.
Really? That means that Yahweh divinely inspired these men to write the "law" which would put thousands of people to death. Nice.
And need I remind you that there are many passages in the NT which are also questionable at best. Shall I begin posting the words of Saul Paul?
Oh so he had a "change of heart." Interesting. So you expect the entire OT and parts of the NT to go completely unnoticed? No such luck. And if Jesus had not been nailed to a pole (a brutal blood sacrifice demanded by your god) then you would have no road to salvation today. You should be thanking the Romans (or the Jews)in that case.
So you are agreeing with my statements? It’s just hard to tell what your position is. If you would like to clarify, I would appreciate this. Im only guessing you are addressing me in some manner due to the fact that you quoted me.
I guess it realy comes down to a personal choice. Some people will decide that they do not want to become involved with an alcoholic even if they are currently dry and in recovery. I can respect that and there is no "wrong" reply or answer. I personally would be willing to date a man who was sober for a year or more and currently involved with AA and had a support system.
There is a lot to do in NH but the main problem is Winer. Unless you are super into winter sports which I personally am not. Thats more or less because I was never exposed to it as a younger person growing up. I find snow to be pretty but too dam cold for me. The entire rest of the year is wonderufl in NH however.
You seem like a person who expects instant gratification. You feel you should create a profile, email a few lucky ladies and be married by the end of the week. It doesn't work that way, son. Hang out, post on the forums. Just try to get to know people and make friends. Gosh!
Krimsa storms out of the room like Napoleon Dynamite.
Yeah I wasn’t exactly sure what he meant by that comment either. I asked him and he never responded. It didn’t really make sense to me either. The only thing I can imagine is that he was referring to the stoning Laws (see above) and saying that the Jews wrote that and it was part of the Messianic Law. That is true but didn’t Yahweh "divinely inspire" Moses?
That’s ridiculous. Hopefully some Christians on this site will have something else to offer. On another website they told me that the Law was written by and for the Jews and only applied to Israel.
Are you referring to the “Blue Book” that AA puts out? Yes, they basically contend that an alcoholic is an alcoholic for life and will henceforth be an alcoholic. This is why "recovery" is ongoing and they must adhere to it from moment to moment.
Right. He says something to the effect that he "has come to uphold the Law." That doesn't bode well. Well I'm glad Jesus thinks we should be merciful. But the Old Testament God is a strange role model for mercy!
I have a question in regards to the Old Testament law. I am speaking of the stoning etc...Who was ordering that exactly? Was it Yahweh? I often times hear Christians try to somehow dodge accountability for all of that and they refer you to the NT.
Absolutely. It can be hard to because alcoholics can be wonderful people when they are sober. That’s what I mean by it being an extremely emotionally draining situation to be in.
Well that’s just it, we don’t. It is Chimpanzee alone. You can't continually sweep that under the rug. Here is another video that I beg you to watch. It is slightly longer but this is why ID won’t be taught in school any time soon.
Conrad I didn’t say that. I am well aware that being an alcoholic is an incurables disease. One does not magically “unalcoholize" themselves. I merely meant that if I met a man who was a recovered alcoholic and staying dry, I would not refuse a romantic relationship if we got along well. Why should I?
I actually had a counselor explain that to me. If you continue to nurture them and stay when they have decided to drink you become what is referred to as an "enabler" and by your failure to act, you are condoning the behavior. You have to offer the help and if they refuse it, you walk.
As far as dates, I think its standard etiquette for whoever (male or female) asks the other person out, to pay. So if the woman initiates the date, then she should at least come prepared to pay. I always do but I find many times the man will still offer because he wants to and that’s fine also. He scores points.
Yes but you can’t always know for certain. At least I cant right away. It also depends where you meet a person. If they are in a bar, well, that might be a sign or it might not. I usually take it slow but I also won’t make excuses for the behavior. The second the drinking poses a problem, I’m out of there. The concern with drinking is it can lead to serious problems in short order. DUIs, violence…etc.
I don’t agree simply because I’m not the type of woman you are describing. I generally will make the first move online or in person. That’s just the type of female I am. Some men might find that overly assertive and intimidating. It really depends on what people consider exciting or appealing. As far as the finances, I’m all set there and would never rely on a male to take care of me in any material sense. Mooching will also not be permitted. We each shall remain responsible for ourselves and our own lives.
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Excellent post. Good show! Jolly good.
RE: DIVINE CREATOR or Darwin's Theory ?
Yes of course. The Egyptians were domesticated by the common house cat I will have you know.That comes directly from "Krimsa's Big Book of Questionable Historical Facts."