krimsa Forum Posts (1,345)

RE: Prove to me....

I wasn’t sure based on parts of your response. I was not calling you ignorant. That’s just the name of the argumentation style. It’s a logical fallacy essentially. Another person became upset yesterday because they thought another member was calling them "ignorant" so I didn’t want a re-hash.

RE: Prove to me....

Shed, no. It's not an insult. Its a style of argument.

RE: Prove to me....

I was referring to everyone that DID post about the issue of your requesting an argument from ignorance.

RE: Prove to me....

Actually what I started to notice happening was the believers (regardless of who or what they believed in) began presenting evidence for what they understood to be “god”. In which case what they were doing was offering supportive evidence for their positive assertion. Bravo.

The next step there after would be to debate on whether we would legitimize their findings or if they have a plausible explanation based in scientific origination or some other naturally occurring phenomena. I remember when I was a youngster, I witnessed the Northern Light and that to me represented god until I understood about the earth’s magnetic field so on and so forth. I was ten and lacked that level of sophistication.

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Well I beg to disagree Shed and so do about 30 others...

RE: Prove to me....

Did you catch the word NOT? If I worded that in an awkward manner I do apologize. I have no beef with you. You have made some interesting comments. Its these ladies, that are a little bit eh...

RE: Prove to me....

Also wildflower, if you are going to attempt an answer on that question, please go back to the other thread and I will read/respond there as that will be rude to start up an entirely different topic on this thread. Thanks.

RE: Prove to me....

The question from yesterday.

"Why are you so utterly offended by the threads posted by the Atheists on forum when primarily they are using quotes from the bible to make their points?"

This question has been asked at least 7 times and never answered by you.



There is no way not to have a debate in conjunction with the proposed subject matter because

A. Not everyone will agree that a negative premise can be substantiated (as we have already witnessed) and

B. Even if we do get past that (which we never did) not everyone will agree upon the fact that a god exists or to which god we are referring if they do believe in a divine creator. That was also pointed out several times.

If you will notice I went back and began noting everyone that had commented on these issues. It was already up to 4 different people and I had only just started.

RE: Can a rational person beilieve in the Bible? or any religion?

Na, I grew out of all that...

RE: Prove to me....

No you did not. I asked you what the comment meant (if anything) and you kept insisting that I should know. I’m assuming that you were merely implying I’m a "know it all." Well fine. That doesn’t really bother nor surprise me in all honesty. Do you have anything else to say?

RE: Prove to me....

neWildflower:I dont think anyone else cared all that much.. they said their bit and left!

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That was for wildflower rodolpho, sorry I didnt bother to quote her.

RE: Prove to me....

Well if the comment actually was worthwhile and you wanted a response, you should have no trouble explaining what you meant I would hope.

You should care because you presumed that I was somehow starting this argument. Who quoted me this morning and began this childdish tyrade? Do you expect me not to respond? You’ve got another thing coming.

You implied that you wanted everyone to leave who did not share the same opinion as yourself. I feel that is utterly rude. Why don’t you answer my question for the other day?

RE: Prove to me....

Actually I started going through and highlighting every post where someone made the comment that "you can not be expected to substantiate a negative." I got up to 4 different people. I think you had said it also.

RE: Can a rational person beilieve in the Bible? or any religion?

Oh I get it... Dont quit your day job.

RE: Prove to me....

I was wondering about that also. We never did sort that argument out. Whose god are we talking about here? Which god are we supposed to not show the evidence for?

RE: The unparalleled invasion ...for a (Christian) god

Thats awful. Who did that?

RE: Prove to me....

Well how do you expect someone to respond if the question makes no sense to anyone other than yourself? I can not read your mind of course.



I was asked last night to argue with a gentleman that I had no problem with. So who is making an issue of this?



So is that what you want? Everyone to leave that does not share the exact same opinion as you? That sounds like a challenge of sorts.

RE: Prove to me....

Who are you talking to?

RE: The unparalleled invasion ...for a (Christian) god

Yes Im sorry this thread seemed to be hijacked by a couple. Oh well. Getting back on the OPs topic, Im wondering what will happen if some of these children shes raising turn to other faiths (or no faith?) What will the parents do then?

RE: Prove to me....

How can you not "debate" the issue? Do you expect us all just to magically agree that a god exists? Do you expect us all to agree that requiring someone to substantiate a negative premise is an illogical debate format?



This comment is clearly non-responsive and makes no sense.



Why don’t you ask anyone who posted this point? I have already listed three different people.

RE: Prove to me....

Okay and there is number three.

RE: The unparalleled invasion ...for a (Christian) god

But you are implying that this is some kind of minor detail...

Its not. It’s what binds them together as differing denominations of the same faith. They aren’t Buddhists and they aren’t Muslims and they aren’t Pagans. They believe that Jesus was the son of god and they also believe that the bible was divinely inspired. They work from the same text...

RE: Can a rational person beilieve in the Bible? or any religion?

Who was ever being cruel? Were you ever personally attacked by anyone? I dont think so. We have been arguing our various points. That’s all constructive debate can be. Once people begin hiding behind "I’m being attacked" and "you guys are all so mean." then it’s over...

RE: The unparalleled invasion ...for a (Christian) god

Yep. I Was just going to say it seems like a bunch of broken factions just all arguing over what is the "correct" way to interpret a book that no one can agree on anyway. The biggest war will probably occur once the different Christian denominations actually target one another. I think that’s basically Armageddon right there.

RE: The unparalleled invasion ...for a (Christian) god

A ha! That sounds accurate to me.

RE: The unparalleled invasion ...for a (Christian) god

I think another thread should be started on it honestly because it is kind of interesting. There is also a great deal of historical hostility between the Protestants and Catholics...Bloody Mary and so forth.

RE: The unparalleled invasion ...for a (Christian) god

Well either way, many Christians seem to want to "distance themselves from the stench of Catholicism." I find it silly as they both hold Jesus to be sacred. I just consider Catholicism another branch on the Christian tree.

RE: The unparalleled invasion ...for a (Christian) god

Well wasn't that what I just predicted you would say? Thus the "your honor" comment...

RE: The unparalleled invasion ...for a (Christian) god

Well I rest my case your honor.