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But does that actually happen in practise, doublefantasy?

If you look at the explorations and debate on this thread, would it be reasonable to doubt 12 jurors all having the same understanding of the concept?

How about all lawyers and judges?

Do any of them supplement evidence with 'gut instinct'?

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But does that actually happen in practise, doublefantasy?

If you look at the explorations and debate on this thread, would it be reasonable to doubt 12 jurors all having the same understanding of the concept?

How about all lawyers and judges?

Do any of them supplement evidence with gut 'instinct'?

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Sorry, the post re: Amanda Knox was for Galrads.

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Aha, now I get why they're executing people so slowly in the US these days, Harbal.

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I like what you've done there with rationalising the expression 'beyond reasonable doubt', Ro.

Unreasonable doubt would imply doubting for no justifiable reason.

Doubt is normal and taking it a step further, a necessary part of the evaluation of evidence.

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What if someone's DNA was at the scene of a crime, but they were there before the crime took place?

That was one of the issues with Amanda Knox's flatmate being murdered. Knox's DNA was everywhere and the Italian police were found not to have followed forensic procedure. The question became, was she involved, or was evidence due to contamination?

How sure would you have to be to convict?

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My question was based around the premises that 'you're 80% sure', not that there is 80% evidential proof, but now you're raised the concept of gut instinct Molly, I'd be interested if people explored that with respect to being beyond reasonable doubt.

You also outlined the concept of what percentage might indicate beyond reasonable life doubt.

You're making this thread interesting, Molly. Run with it, please. laugh

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No Lee, it's more personal than that.

I don't like you. laugh

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Yes, I know it's very similar to that thread.

It's also very different.

I've been trying to think of a way to explore this question for some time. I was all set to respond to Frisky's thread with it and it occurred to me it might derail it unfairly.

It then occurred to me, running them concurrently might lead to some interesting contrasts and comparisons.

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What would your gut feeling be based upon, Molly?

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If you were 80% positive that someone had committed a murder and only 20% not sure that he did, would you send him to prison based on that percentage?

What percentage would you need to be satisfied that someone was guilty beyond reasonable doubt?

RE: Getting a message from one someone who deletes their account

Sometimes people hide their profiles when they're offline to avoid coming back to streams of scam mail.

Sometimes scammers (or otherwise naughty people) hide their profiles to avoid getting reported, or banned while their offline.

Or to stop their partners finding their profile.

It could be perfectly innocent, or not. Best not to fret about it.

RE: Organ donation

I'm aware Heavensmile is perfectly capable of speaking for herself, Mercedes. I have much respect for her contributions on this forum.

I just found your post unnecessary and commented as such.

RE: Organ donation

I didn't find it at all difficult to understand, but either way, Heavensmile is entitled as an adult to make her own decision about organ donation without judgement.

RE: Organ donation

Heavensmile is an adult, Mercedes.

She's made an adult decision to consider her mother's needs and wishes.

RE: Organ donation

It is standard practise here in the UK. You have to opt out, rather than make arrangements to donate.

I think it might still be standard practice to consult with next of kin, however. I don't think they whip your vitals out on the sly.

My dad received a cadaver kidney transplant over 7 years ago. Kidney failure was killing him and caring for his high needs was killing my mum.

She was too old and too small to carry on with things the way they were and my dad was having life saving surgery every couple of months. He was quite literally falling apart and at one point had mesh implanted to hold his insides together.

So far, that's about 15 years of life free from surgery and suffering from one kidney.

Each of us could potentially provide that 8 times over. That's like 120 years of life, or quality of life from the bits we don't need anymore.

RE: USA vs UK

The way we adopted the metric system...?

You mean, whilst reassuring Imperial that we still love and value it and Metric is an addition to our happy family, not in any way a replacement?

RE: I like to go the extra mile

When one door closes, another one opens.

Also not good if you're a taxi driver.

RE: It's National Nap Day!

It's notable that you didn't title you thread International Nap Day.

There are cats on this side of the pond too, y'know.

RE: What makes you think, you would make a good partner?

I don't.

I'm in no position to be a good partner.

RE: Living And The Dead

From the present, it would be Clive Stafford Smith, but he'd have to bring his wife along. I've not seen an interview, documentary, seminar, or debate where he hasn't mentioned his wife. I know so much about her, it would be nice to finally meet her. Besides, I'd be rather tongue tied and inclined towards embarrassing obsequiousness in front of the mighty Clive without her.

From the past, it would be the Polish resistance fighter, Jozef Bylicki.

RE: GOOD BYE JEEEPERS (I will always love you)

My phone's having none of it, Debs.

I've worked out how to highlight in other places, but just can't do it with forum posts.

Start another one?

RE: GOOD BYE JEEEPERS (I will always love you)

I can't click on links, Debs.

Bump it and let's have a play. laugh

RE: GOOD BYE JEEEPERS (I will always love you)

I remember that thread of his - something like, go and be nice to someone, banter with the person serving you in a shop, help someone out, whatever, and report back.

I remember him telling me he'd been diagnosed with late stage cancer and working out from the dates that his reaction to the news was to create that thread.

I think he had quite a big impact on me and others. I think his influence must live on in many, many people.

That's a pretty good legacy, I'd say.

RE: Guess the person above yous profession ?

I get Ivor's pistons pumping for the love of it, not money. There's nothing like letting off a little steam. snooty

RE: Guess the person above yous profession ?

KB - corset shimmier shimmy

RE: Guess the person above yous profession ?

Non - behave yourself, or you'll get a good Heiding.

RE: Guess the person above yous profession ?

Non - saint and total mother.

RE: Guess the person above yous profession ?

O2N - wind up merchant

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