It's a Celtic thing, so are the Scots (if were stereotyping).
A good example of it is not being seen to cry and a good example is a dad who chops his thumb off with a saw and refuses to stop working as it might affect his masculinity.
Try watching dennis leary's "No Cure For Cancer" DVD. The story above was about his own father and is very amusing.
Aparently, Irish Immegrnts to the US love wooden pannelling, in any room!
His father would apparently try to put up panelling given any moment in peace when he wasn't working.
Watch the DVD you'll notice a few very amusing Irish stereotypes on that that he talks about.
Last year i had a doctor misdiagnose me with a soft tissue injury, and didn't assess me properly.
Following his advice of go home and rest for 6 weeks even though i was clearly in pain and couldn't breath i was sent home from hospital with the advice (rest & take paracetamol).
Apon admittance to hospital in an emergency some 2 months later it was discovered that i had 2 forms of pneumonia and a blood test i hadn't ever taken was lodged on the system saying my blood results were normal.
The overwhelming impression i had at the time was the doctor couldn't be bothered and he thought i might be one of say the mentally ill that clog up the system being bored or needing attention.
Either way the consequence were very serious for me, the pneumonia had 2 more months to get into my system and i was vommiting blood and tissue and had been unable to eat because of this doctor.
I didn't sue the doctor or the hospital trust, but when the drugs failed to work for the 1st week i was told i was gravely ill.
apon admittance to hospital i was basically less than a week away from dying, and then the drugs failed to work for a week and then i had an episode where i had something akin to a sezuire due to the hospital forgetting to feed me and i wasnt discovered for 2 hours while i was shall we say contracted into a ball unable to move or speak.
Unfortunately incompetence is everywhere, but then again these people are a minority compared with the vast majority of hard working professionals.
I was just unlucky, but the falsifying of medical evidence i did have to say found deeply worrying.
I'm sorry but you must have developed some kind of lack of attention to detail.
I did not at any point speak to you, and have done my best to avoid you.
I am sick to my back teeth of you making what you think are "underhand and snide remarks about me" and if you think you can twist this behaviour to make other people feel sorry for you and play a victim then i suggest you re read the thread.
It's pretty clear to anyone reads this and i prefaced my comments about Asian/Oriental stereotypes and then you just took the opportunity to try to provoke a fight.
Well guess what, you got the attention, you also got pulled up for making remarks about me by at least 4 other people other than myself, so please drop it and stop trying to pick a fight with me.
If you pissed off with your health that is nothing to do with me, and your accusing me of persecuting you is to put it politely complete and utter nonsense.
I do not follow you around the forums making snide remarks, i do not look at your profile, i do not in any way harass or bother you.
So please, drop the urge to make remarks about me as i am finding it boring, tedious and in some circumstances insulting, especially when i am accused of bashing/bullying or anything else as i have clearly not done anything of the kind.
So please just avoid me, and don't remark on anything i say, and i will avoid you like the plague.
I'll tell you what then.Stop making what you think are snide digs at me that the others won't be able to see, because i hate to tell you but they have and do notice these things.
Don't talk to me, don't comment about me, don't look at my profile.......just stay away and i sure as hell won't be making any remarks towards you.
Try not playing the victim and act like a grown up.
Your technique for getting attention is getting very tiresome now, so why don't you just address the issues of the thread instead of constantly making references to me.
There's a reason why your the only person on this site why you are on my blocked list, and this is why!
Unless my brain just died and i inherited the use of one of my cats you accused me of the following.
I'll post it for you so you don't have to go back to page 8.
Instead of writing essays why do RobbieM and a few other guys on here just type that what they want is a small, subservant woman...simpledunno
Now would you like me to underline the subservient part again, which by that i assume i want to find a submissive person?
Strange that, as that is nowhere on my profile nor have i ever indicated i like women like that.Nor does it say that in any post on the thread as is written in clear english.
Some people would class it as offensive.Which is why 4 other people commented as i have said no such thing!
The thread was about quantifying the term "western women", so i fleshed it out to explain some of the background between east and west and some of the ways "western women" could be labelled.
It's a bit hard to do that in one sentence, unless i left out the grammar and punctuation.
Words don't adequately explain how sincere this apparently is, and unless anyone has experienced it it comes accross as almost a culture shock at first.
It's so alien to our experience as westerners it's very easy to fall i love when meeting say a Chinese or Thai lady when they treat you like that.
I explained to someone who was an editor of a magazine wonce who was going to cover a paintball tournament.
I warned him how friendly the locals were and exactly what you experienced and he laughed.I warned him that you probably wont want to come back here you know.
And guess what....he met someone there, sold up everything he had in the UK and moved to Thailand.
It's common for people to believe that say Chinese women or other Asians will be more passive and less assertive than western cultures.
This generally is totally wrong and people just have not met people in their own environment.
As a clique i will say the friendliest people i have ever met are Thai's, but then i found even Austrian women were friendly when i visited there.
Culturally around the world the approach and expectations are different, but in my experience somehow meeting people with virtually nothing and seeing them happy to play on a tree over a river with nothing other than a stick for entertainment was humbling and a revelation.
As adults ths carries forward with education but somehow their does seem to be a more "happy" disposition than anywhere other than the developed West.
Idiology and their respective religions may also explain this
It is plain common sociological evidence that the male in society (in particular young men) have lost their perceived role in society.
In some ethnic circles with lack of a male role model this spills into gang culture and criminality.
I can only speak from my own experience and say i find Asian and Oriental women attractive as i have travelled quite a bit!
That said i also think the South American stereotype is also attractive and i am far less likely to be attracted to an aggressive "western woman" although clearly i am generalising.
Some men like petite women who aren't aggressive! The psychology really is that simple!
Remember men are attracted "visually" where as women are if you listen to social anthropologists supposed to be looking for the best mate for their offspring.
A recent study of young people within the UK when asking what qualities they looked for in a male partner answered "Money".
This is truly a sad state of affairs and no wonder men are increasingly becoming sick of these type of people.
I'll try to define it but bluntly, otherwise ill run out of room.
Western European Women.Far easier to describe this as North America/Europe.You'll notice i have left other parts of the globe out, deliberately.
Now the generalisations which men will identify with in varying ways and women will be offended by or not as the case maybe.
1) The individual is pressurised from the educational years to get a good job and comply with society and marry and settle down.
2) Amusing they have a partner, the perceived standard of living they feel they are "worth" negates their choice in a partner, or moving from one partner to another for financial gain.
3)The constant references to liberalisation, where people can do anything they wish, and walk away from the situation.To expand on this is hard without doing an essay.
Suffice to say the prevailing evidence is women blaming men for their predicament, rather than themselves, and when they do they become abusive and rude and aggressive.
This last part is not exclusively limited to Western European cultures, as South American's are notoriously fiery as well.
4)Political Correctness and the Litigation culture. This has expanded from the United States, and travelled to Europe and Australasia as well. Add to the mix some women looking down on others as family makers and home makers/career women that have not have had families but espouse how other families should live (a they believe it is their right) as they are a taxpayer.
These are just four things that differentiate Western European women from parts of the globe where men perceive women appear to be both happier and more agreeable than the perceived more aggressive, pushy and career orientated/politically correct women that are labelled "Western European Women".
You must of seen the posts from shall we say right wing religious types saying if you do not believe in their "type" of god "you'll burn in hell".
These people should not be allowed to even have a vote, and kept locked up for their safety.
Personally i would ban religion from education,law making and anything that requires state funding.
If people want religion, let them have it in private and that way we won't have any more political leaders trying to use religion to justify any scheme they are trying to push on their public.
Anyone deeply religious who keeps trying to force their religion on other people makes me feel almost ill.
Now call me foolish, but surely if your clearly religious of nature and you are closed minded and the thoughts of others just rebound like flies off a wind-shield, then why not debate religion on a religious forum?
I hate to point out the obvious but this should be a friendly amusing place where people date, not a place to meet people and shout about anti Pagan/anti Christian/anti Muslim/anti Jew or even anti Agnostic.
Do you really believe this will show you in a good light if you do this? Seriously, do you think you become more attractive if you spout your religious beliefs and try to be as dogmatic as possible?
Well i don't know if your all accident prone, but i certainly appear to be.
Not long ago i was helping a neighbour clear out a garage and while i was looking at what was on the lower shelf which meant i was crouched a shelf gave way above me that contained paint.
The net result was i had 5 litres of dulux paint drop straight onto my head.
Now as much as i tried to get all this stuff out of my eyes and hair i had o face facts and realise it might damage my scalp, and i thought "oh well the hair will have to go" so i proceeded straight to where some dogs hair clippers were and now i look like "Action Man".
Have you managed to ruin anything yourself even by accident?
If possessions make someone high maintenance then i might qualify.
What i have is nice quality and even a lottery win wouldn't make me replace my belongings.
When i was involved in paintball, i bought the very best kit available.
When my son was due to be born i bought a new car to drive him around in as the other car i had at the time wasn't suitable.
When i bought a coffee machine i bought a Bugatti designer one (£500 for a coffee machine is excessive!).
My motorbike racing leathers are the best you can buy.
When i bought a stereo i bought a very good one as well!
You name it, from computer equipment, so glasses for the kitchen, to appliances and even tools for the garage every last thing here couldn't be described as rubbish.
Glass furniture, home entertainment around the house, even headphones for my mp3 player are the very best you can get!
Have a listen to Bose Quietcomfort 3 headphones and you'll appreciate the quality.
Mind you i have perspective, none of this stuff matters really, but i still didn't realise owning anything made me high maintenance as i bought it myself.
I always thought being high maintenance was a reference to having to spend money on someone else, not yourself?
RobbieM Forum Posts (4,553)
RE: Irish men
It's a Celtic thing, so are the Scots (if were stereotyping).A good example of it is not being seen to cry and a good example is a dad who chops his thumb off with a saw and refuses to stop working as it might affect his masculinity.
Try watching dennis leary's "No Cure For Cancer" DVD. The story above was about his own father and is very amusing.
Aparently, Irish Immegrnts to the US love wooden pannelling, in any room!
His father would apparently try to put up panelling given any moment in peace when he wasn't working.
Watch the DVD you'll notice a few very amusing Irish stereotypes on that that he talks about.