You can't just "move on" after a big blow to your life. A period of grief, punctuated by a couple of good binges will help to put the world back into perspective.
Genuine therapy of almost any flavor will be more effective than drugs against depression or other emotional conditions.
Studies have found that talking to a priest, counsellor, or a good friend is just as effective as talking to a psychiatrist. It has nothing to do with what they know. What really counts is talking openly about the problem in a comfortable non-threatening environment. Having someone there to listen and respond provides a sounding board, an outlet for emotions that are generally kept bottled up. Just the act of talking about the problem is, in itself, more effective than any drug could ever be.
You seem to forget that every single case of SSRI problems (and there are millions) began by people consulting with their doctors.
In most cases the doctor himself has never used the drugs he prescribes. That is especially true of SSRIs. So the doctor only knows what he has learned about the drug through jounals and studies etc.
And that is the very information that the drug companies have manipulated in order to maximize their profits.
There's one last video that I think you need to see. It shows how the FDA is literally controlled by the drug industry and systematically suppresses negative information about antidepressant drugs.
Realizing that the FDA is the "authority" to which doctors must submit concerning the drugs they should and shouldn't prescribe, and knowing that the drug companies wield enormous influence in the FDA, it's clear that people need to research for themselves and make their own informed decisions about what drugs they should and shouldn't take instead of blindly trusting anyone.
I don't expect anyone to take my word for anything whatsoever.
But I will certainly try to help people make informed decisions instead of blindly trusting institutions that are, frankly, not all that dependable.
It's true I'm not a psychiatrist. But I do have a BA with major concentrations in biology and psychology.
What's more SSRI addiction has indeed affected my life. My ex-wife is permanently addicted and is a semi-vegetable as a result.
Just last year I helped a friend wean down from 20 mg of Seroplex to zero (over a period of 6 months).
To be honest, the last thing in the world I would advise anyone doing is just trusting the psychiatric industry. I have seen the results of that and it has destroyed people I know and love.
I don't feel any moral obligation to encourage anyone's addiction. Helping people doesn't equal supporting the damage that the psychiactric industry wants to do to them.
You can take SSRIs if you want to. Do it at your own risk. But don't expect me to keep silent about the subject. It's too important.
I have seen SSRI withdrawal at close hand in people I love.
This guy, is a registered nurse and got into this situation by trusting the doctors. He is just barely getting started at withdrawal. He is months away from any possibility of getting off the drug.
If you were able to quit or even reduce your dose without serious withdrawal effects, you're doing pretty well.
I helped a friend quit seroplex (same as lexapro). She was able to cut her dose in half very quickly from 19 to 5 mg/day.
But then it took 6 months for her to quit altogether.
At first I used a tile cutter to cut the pills into smaller doses. When that wasn't precise enough I sanded the doses down to size using a small file.
Towards the end we gradually substituted St John's wort for every other dose. And then for every dose. That helped a lot.
Quitting the St John's wort was no problem once she was totally weaned off the drug.
My ex, who lives in the states, is a sad case of what happens when you just let the medical industry do whatever they want.
She had cortizone treatments for something or other, and it caused her to gain a lot of weight very quickly. The extra weight caused her knees to give out. So over the period of a year, she had both knees replaced with artificial joints.
That kept her off work and in a lot of pain for a year. Meanwhile her company was bought out and she knew that as soon as her medical leave was finished she would be fired (many other employees had been fired already).
So she was stressed, and her doctor put her on paxil. When that only made her more stressed they doubled the dose. She began to have panic attacts and suicidal thoughts so they hospitalized her and added more drugs. She still got worse. Eventually they began giving her electro-shock treatments.
It took strong intervention from influential friends and relatives to get her out of their grips.
Now she's back home, and takes only a single SSRI. But it's a strong dose and there isn't much hope for ever weaning her off of it. There is too great a danger that the withdrawal symptoms would land her back in the hospital again and restart the nightmare. So she is permanently addicted.
Sorry Robert, I realize that you are sincere, but you are advocating one of the deadliest scams in all of history. So-called "clinical depression" doesn't even really exist.
It's a scam created by the drug industry to promote the use of drugs that are more addictive and destructive than heroin. And their motives are the same as those of drug pushers, enormous profits that continue for the rest of the user's life.
Profound sadness is not an illness. In fact it serves a vital purpose. It's the process that allows person's psyche to reorients and rewires itself following emotional shock or great disillusion.
That healthy function can be facilitated by friendship, encouragement, discussion, prayer, meditation, taking a sabatical vacation, etc etc
Drugs, be they tranquilizers, antidepressants, or whatever, at best, only interefere with the vital natural role of sadness.
But they are seldom "at best". Usually the drugs do serious harm.
Nearly all prescritions for depression, involve SSRI antidepressants.
They are arguably the most evil drugs (legal or otherwise) that have ever been marketed.
But they are definitely the biggest moneymakers for the drug industry because they are extremely addictive.
They should be banned, and the pharmaceutical companies who falsified and suppressed information in order to get them approved and marketed should be sued down to their last dime, and their directors jailed for life.
Drug companies lied about study results in order to get SSRI's approved
Megastudies for all SSRI drugs found that they are no more effective than a placebo for mild or moderate depression, And even for severe depression, it's not that the SSRI's are more effective, its just that the placebo effect is near zero.
All SSRI drugs have horrible side effects and withdrawal symptoms.
Why do well-meaning doctors prescribe SSRIs? Because the drug industry funds ad campaigns to push their products both to the general public and to doctors.
For those who absolutely insist on having more seratonin in their brains. St. John's Wort is far more effective than any SSRI in raising overall seratonin levels, and doesn't have any of the negative side effects.
I read some of the comments from the perpetrator. He tried to convince the police that the whole affair was something great and wonderful that would be an inspiration to others.
It looks like Kissinger won't make his deadline. But that was to be expected. If it were true, Kissinger couldn't have said it. It would violate the order of the universe.
I don't think there is any intention to confiscate guns, yet. They have been working hard to stir hostilities and create organized resistance to the NWO.
What they clearly want is to provoke violence, so that in the guise of putting down armed resistance, they can get rid of all their political enemies.
In discussion with a group of Japanese businessmen we talked about this kind of situation. What I say here is what they told me.
In Japan, all social roles are strongly delineated and society exerts pressure to force conformity to those roles. For example, If a Japanese man does "women's work" such as washing dishes or cleaning the house, it is a violation of the social norm, and other men will quickly notice it and nudge the violator back into conformity.
At the same time, the role of women is limited too, they are generally expected to stop working when they marry, and everyone from their employer to their friends and family will expect them to quit their job.
It doesn't really mean that they don't like to work, just that society has its expectations to which they must conform.
However the situation there is very different from the situation you describe, because Japanese men have very little time to be with their families. It's impossible for them to really participate very much in raising the family.
But it's pretty clear what Machiavelli was. Sociopaths do have a certain clarity of thought, being detatched from any emotional involvement. But their advice isn't likely to lead to happiness.
Personally, I would expect her to have already moved out or to be trying hard to do so. I could understand hardship considerations such as having no place to go. But if she isn't even trying to move out, in my opinion, she's still in that relationship and it would only make a bigger mess to get involved.
I'm a firm believer in having only one relationship at a time. I tried it the other way and it was a disaster.
Yes we all lie. Those who think they don't are lying to themselves. The biggest trouble is when we start to consider our lies to be truth, just because we have built so much upon them.
RayfromUSA Forum Posts (6,611)
RE: Forgetting a girl ?
So true.You can't just "move on" after a big blow to your life.
A period of grief, punctuated by a couple of good binges will help to put the world back into perspective.