RE: What is you favourite Internet browser and why...

I run Win7 64bit Pro operating system and used to use Chrome for all internet usage. However when Google started its war with Microsoft over https:// internet browser protocol I soon became victim of Microsoft expiring browser certificates...so moved to FireFox Midnight with Chrome as default search engine until FireFox started updating Google files in its browser that went to expired certificates. So swapped FireFox version then had to ditch Chrome for for Amazons Duck Duck Go as default search engine.
Also I now use excellent Yandex browser, which is chrome based browser, its a particularly good browser for its safe banking function.

A first this morning Facebook is currently down

RE: Your Soul - Do you feed it?

I think word Soul is very deceptive word to describe subtle-winds. One explanation that seems to make sense energy field is where our mental, physical, spiritual, and emotional characteristics are stored.
A few people i've listened to use the word Chakra to describe our energy channels.
The Tibetan teach our true nature is moving energy (subtle winds) which with careful meditation is found as an ultimate truth.
For many years i have maintained my own commitment to observer my thoughts and watch feelings.
I stopped listening to music a long time ago, i guard my mind and monitor my energy / feelings.
I have followed the ongoing energy associated to some international affairs and defence related issues and other limited subjects developing instant awareness of change; a sort of six-sense as changes occur.

So I have my own delusions some formed from Vietnam experience and maintained still today.
I have engaged to extensively studied in the Tibetan tradition, I have followed advise from my qualified Mahayana teachers and therefore in relation to the question expressed in the header of this thread expressing i think that OP asked "do you feel it?"! then I say i can, I do feel vibrations yes.

RE: America’s Second Vietnam... what are we fighting for today in Afghanistan?

Global Research is the website published by the Canadian non-profit group, the Centre for Research on Globalisation (CRG).

Michel Chossudovsky (born 1946) is a Canadian economist, author and conspiracy theorist. He is professor emeritus of economics at the University of Ottawa

appears to promote his views in quite few places

He has taught as visiting professor in Western Europe, Southeast Asia, the Pacific and Latin America:

Catholic University of Chile (1973), Catholic University of Peru (1974, 1989-90),

National University of Cordoba, Argentina (1976),

Central University of Venezuela (1976),

University of Hong Kong (1981-82),

University of Papua New Guinea (UPNG), Port Moresby,(1985),

Kohn Kaen University, Thailand (1987-88), Chulalongkorn University, Bangkok (research scholar) (1991-92)

Institut des sciences mathématiques et économiques appliquées, Maison des sciences de l’homme, Paris, (1980s), L’Ecole des hautes études en sciences sociales (EHESS), Paris (1993) (visiting scholar),

Peace University, Rovereto, Italy (2003-2004),

University of the Philippines, Cebu (2015-18).

HE CANT BE all Bad
He was awarded the Gold Medal for Merit of the Republic of Serbia for his writings on NATO's war of aggression against Yugoslavia
and has acted as economic adviser to governments of developing countries and has worked as a consultant for several international organizations including the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP), the African Development Bank, the United Nations African Institute for Economic Development and Planning (AIEDEP), the United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA), the International Labour Organization (ILO), the World Health Organisation (WHO), the United Nations Economic Commission for Latin America and the Caribbean (ECLAC).
He is probably responsible for the World Bank funding third world countries purcahase of Gold Bullion.
That's a good move or Conrad you gunner dispense with Gold content Swiss frank?

RE: America’s Second Vietnam... what are we fighting for today in Afghanistan?

Russia. Russia, which also holds the world's largest natural gas reserves and the second-largest coal reserves, is the second biggest oil supplier in the world after Saudi Arabia.

RE: America’s Second Vietnam... what are we fighting for today in Afghanistan?

if you add the US Nuclear missiles deployed in Europe and lead to the Cuban crises the above post only touches on the fringe of American government sponsored terrorism, like in the arms that Saudi's, Israel and USA poured into Syria.

Add how more recently Israel broke the peace accord that Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, Ahimsa.
PM Olmert had brokered between Israel, Hezbollah and West Bank Palestinians, that held without any violence, and I now believe with good reason, that Netanyahu deliberately killed by having three kids killed...

RE: America’s Second Vietnam... what are we fighting for today in Afghanistan?

Patriotism covered in dung:

US Has Killed More Than 20 Million People in 37 “Victim Nations” Since World War II

The loss of life in the second World War (1939-1945) was on a much large scale, when compared to World War I: 60 million lives both military and civilian were lost during World War II. (Four times those killed during World War I). (Which America Started)

This theme is developed in this report which contains an estimated numbers of such deaths in 37 nations as well as brief explanations of why the U.S. is considered culpable.

The causes of wars are complex. In some instances nations other than the U.S. may have been responsible for more deaths, but if the involvement of our nation appeared to have been a necessary cause of a war or conflict it was considered responsible for the deaths in it. In other words they probably would not have taken place if the U.S. had not used the heavy hand of its power. The military and economic power of the United States was crucial.

This study reveals that U.S. military forces were directly responsible for about 10 to 15 million deaths during the Korean and Vietnam Wars and the two Iraq Wars. The Korean War also includes Chinese deaths while the Vietnam War also includes fatalities in Cambodia and Laos.

The American public probably is not aware of these numbers and knows even less about the proxy wars for which the United States is also responsible. In the latter wars there were between nine and 14 million deaths in Afghanistan, Angola, Democratic Republic of the Congo, East Timor, Guatemala, Indonesia, Pakistan and Sudan.

Afghanistan

The U.S. is responsible for between 1 and 1.8 million deaths during the war between the Soviet Union and Afghanistan, by luring the Soviet Union into invading that nation.

President Carter, admitted that he had been responsible for instigating aid to the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan which caused the Soviets to invade. In his own words:

According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan on 24 December 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise. Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the President in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.

The CIA spent 5 to 6 billion dollars on its operation in Afghanistan in order to bleed the Soviet Union. When that 10-year war ended over a million people were dead and Afghan heroin had captured 60% of the U.S. market.

The U.S. has been responsible directly for about 12,000 deaths in Afghanistan many of which resulted from bombing in retaliation for the attacks on U.S. property on September 11, 2001.



RE: America’s Second Vietnam... what are we fighting for today in Afghanistan?

Answer when the USA gets its listen back American troops might stop being killed in Afghanistan

WHY

According to the CIA World Factbook with data as at January 2017, Iran ranks fourth in the terms of biggest proved crude oil reserves in the world, behind Venezuela

Iran was an important factor in the overthrow of the Taliban and has since helped revive Afghanistan's economy and infrastructure. It re-opened the Iranian Embassy in Kabul and its associated consulates in other Afghan cities. In the meantime, Iran joined the reconstruction of Afghanistan.

Until 1857, Herat was part of Iran, and only after Iran and Britain signed the Paris Treaty of 1857 did Iran abandon its claim-although it reserved the right to send forces to Afghanistan "if its frontier is violated." From Afghan independence in 1919 until 1979, Iran's relations with Afghanistan were friendly.

Afghanistan–Iran border. The Afghanistan-Iran border is 921km (572 miles) in length and runs from the tripoint with Turkmenistan in the north to the tripoint with Pakistan in the south.

America needs to look in its own back yard and stop trying to steal from others all the time mate

RE: America’s Second Vietnam... what are we fighting for today in Afghanistan?

America formed the League of Nations.
The League of Nations mandates were later taken over by the then new United Nations who chucked the British out, the minor details.
Interdependent Arising's

RE: America’s Second Vietnam... what are we fighting for today in Afghanistan?

The history of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict began with the establishment of the state of Israel in 1948. This conflict came from the intercommunal violence in Mandatory Palestine between Israelis and Arabs from 1920 and erupted into full-scale hostilities in the 1947–48 civil war.

In 1947, the newly formed United Nations accepted the idea to partition Palestine into a zone for the Jews (Israel) and a zone for the Arabs (Palestine). With this United Nations proposal, the British withdrew from the region on May 14th 1948.

In 1917, the British had succeeded in defeating the Ottoman Turkish forces and occupied the Palestine region.

In 722 BCE, the Assyrians, under Sargon II, successor to Shalmaneser V, conquered the Kingdom of Israel, and many Israelites were deported to Mesopotamia. The Jewish proper diaspora began with the Babylonian exile in the 6th century BCE.

League of Nations mandates were to be taken over by the new United Nations, Britain had declared that it would leave Palestine by 1 August 1948, later setting the date for the termination of the mandate as 15 May; on 14 May 1948 the Zionist leadership announced the Israeli Declaration of Independence.

Jewish militant underground organizations and the British mandatory authorities rose from 1938 and intensified with the publication of the White Paper of 1939, which outlined new government policies to place further restrictions on Jewish immigration and land purchases and declared the intention of giving independence to Palestine, with an Arab majority, within ten years.

The King David Hotel bombing was a terrorist attack carried out on Monday, July 22, 1946, by the militant right-wing Zionist underground organization the Irgun on the British administrative headquarters for Palestine, which was housed in the southern wing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem.

RE: America’s Second Vietnam... what are we fighting for today in Afghanistan?

Saddam Hussein was supported by the CIA from before he became President of Iraq

Sixty years ago, Iraq’s monarchy came to an end with a bloody coup that killed the young King Faisal II.

The kingdom of Iraq was founded in 1932 under Faisal I after the fall of the Ottoman empire. Faisal, who was born in Saudi Arabia, was a member of the Hashemite dynasty and fought alongside T.E. Lawrence during World War I.

Faisal ruled for 12 years under a constitutional monarchy imposed by the British until his death from a heart attack, aged 48.

Faisal’s son, King Ghazi, took the throne, but died six years later in a car crash in Baghdad. The title of king fell to Faisal II, who was just 3 years old, and his reign began under the regency of his uncle Crown Prince Abdallah.

Faisal II was educated in Britain at Harrow, along with his cousin, King Hussein of Jordan.

On July 13, 1958, when two army brigades were ordered to go to Jordan to help quell a crisis in Lebanon, Qassim, a disaffected officer leading one of the units, saw his chance and sent troops to the Qasr Al Rihab palace. By early the following morning, they had surrounded the palace with tanks and opened fire.

Shortly after 8 a.m., King Faisal II, his uncle the crown prince, and other members of the royal family and their staff were ordered from the rear entrance and killed.

The 23-year-old king was engaged to marry.

Saddam Hussein, who became president in 1979, setting the country on its calamitous course of foreign wars and brutal dictatorship, was fascinated by the young king.

RE: America’s Second Vietnam... what are we fighting for today in Afghanistan?

I don't think so. The war would not have occurred if America's mate the Shah of Iran hadn't been overthrown. Quick internet search copied and pasted:
Relations with Iran had grown increasingly strained after the shah was overthrown in 1979. Iraq recognized Iran’s new Shi?ite Islamic government, but the Iranian leaders would have nothing to do with the Ba?th regime, which they denounced as secular. Ruhollah Khomeini, the spiritual leader of the Iranian revolution, proclaimed his policy of “exporting the revolution,” and Iraq was high on the list of countries whose governments were to be overthrown and replaced by a replica of the Islamic regime in Iran. In addition, Iran still occupied three small pieces of territory along the Iran-Iraq border that were supposed to be returned to Iraq under the treaty of 1975.

The Iranian agenda in Iraq is shaped by the horrific Iran-Iraq war of 1980 to 1988.

The war is often said to have caused half a million or more deaths. The Battle Deaths Dataset, developed by a team of political scientists, estimates fatalities at more than 600,000. The Correlates of War Project, another major scholarly dataset, estimates 500,000 Iraqi dead and 750,000 Iranian dead.

Iranian and Iraqi government officials offer lower — though still terrible — casualty figures. One of Saddam Husayn’s generals, Ra’ad al-Hamdani, recently estimated that 250,000 Iraqis were “martyred” in the war with Iran, including 53,000 killed in the battle for Shatt al-Arab. The Iranian Basij [copy of material on dead link] paramilitary organization counted 155,081 “martyrs” of direct engagement with Iraqi forces, plus 16,154 Iranians killed in the “war of the cities."

Iraqi president Saddam Hussein wanted to reassert his country’s sovereignty over both banks of the Sha?? al-?Arab, a river formed by the confluence of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers that was historically the border between the two countries. Saddam was also concerned over attempts by Iran’s Islamic revolutionary government to incite rebellion among Iraq’s Shi?ite majority. By attacking when it did, Iraq took advantage of the apparent disorder and isolation of Iran’s new government—then at loggerheads with the United States over the seizure of the U.S. embassy in Tehran by Iranian militants—and of the demoralization and dissolution of Iran’s regular armed forces.

Iran repeatedly launched fruitless infantry attacks, using human assault waves composed partly of untrained and unarmed conscripts (often young boys snatched from the streets), which were repelled by the superior firepower and air power of the Iraqis. Both nations engaged in sporadic air and missile attacks against each other’s cities and military and oil installations. They also attacked each other’s oil-tanker shipping in the Persian Gulf, and Iran’s attacks on Kuwait’s and other Gulf states’ tankers prompted the United States and several western European nations to station warships in the Persian Gulf to ensure the flow of oil to the rest of the world.
Bush's Ambassador lied to Saddam after Saddam had advise Bush of his intention to take Kuwait, then had allies confront Saddam and took all the causalities while USA tanks went on a joy ride around the fighting all the way to Baghdad

RE: Why do people lie

At birth father and mother label us with a common name ('s), soon we respond to that name as if it has some basis of truth about it (the name) in reality we are in like manner holding solid what is not necessarily solid.
That process leads us to grasp onto lots and lots completely wrong perceptions that no bases of fact at all, our lives are a lie, a delusion.
For most of our lives we cannot even perceive the extent of the falsehoods we cling to.
Its quite a bind...
Hard to free self from...
Finding understanding of our true nature...
Study emptiness...

RE: America’s Second Vietnam... what are we fighting for today in Afghanistan?

As of July 27, 2018, there have been 2,372 U.S. military deaths in the War in Afghanistan. 1,856 of these deaths have been the result of hostile action. 20,320 American servicemembers have also been wounded in action during the war. In addition, there were 1,720 U.S. civilian contractor fatalities.
In addition, there were 1,720 U.S. civilian contractor fatalities.

Allegations of CIA assistance to Osama bin Laden. A commonly expressed belief states that the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) had ties with Osama Bin Laden's al-Qaeda and its "Afghan Arab" fighters when it armed Mujahideen groups to fight the Soviet Union during the Soviet–Afghan War.

How many Soviets died in Afghanistan?
The war began in December 1979, and lasted until February 1989. About 15,000 Soviet soldiers were killed, and about 35,000 were wounded. About two million Afghan civilians were killed. The anti-government forces had support from many countries, mainly the United States and Pakistan.

Some of the invaders in the history of Afghanistan include the Maurya Empire of ancient India, Alexander the Great of Macedon, Umar, an Arab Caliphate, Genghis Khan of Mongolia, Timur of Persia and Central Asia, the Mughal Empire of India, various Persian Empires, the British Empire, the Sikh Empire

Buddhism in Afghanistan was one of the major religious forces in the region during pre-Islamic era. ... The Buddhist religion in Afghanistan started fading with the arrival of Islam in the 7th century but finally ended during the Ghaznavids in the 11th century.

When the Safavid dynasty was founded in Persia, part of what is now Afghanistan was ruled by the Khanate of Bukhara and Babur from Kabulistan

The Soviet–Afghan War lasted over nine years, from December 1979 to February 1989. Insurgent groups known collectively as the mujahideen, as well as smaller Maoist groups, fought a guerrilla war against the Soviet Army and the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan government, mostly in the rural countryside.

and they lived unhappy for ever and ever, amen

Perhaps we need to keep an eye on India and Pakistan shooting down planes

Perhaps we need to keep an eye on India and Pakistan shooting down planes

Hinduism only appeared after the Persians had wiped out Buddhism in India.
Please stop posting in this thread as its a serious attempt to link truth to the current ongoing threat between Pakistan & India conflict pose to world peace. And the stuff your posted butted into conversation that was not addressed to you pertaining to Mahayana Buddhism and the hiding we coped from the Buddhists in Vietnam war which you clearly have no understanding of.
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Perhaps we need to keep an eye on India and Pakistan shooting down planes

McCain ejected a 500 lb bomb onto a US Aircraft Carries deck, killed 27 US Sailors...yawn

Perhaps we need to keep an eye on India and Pakistan shooting down planes

due to technical difficulties i couldn't copy and paste

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The weapons dealer said the first step is asking "the State Department under your license for a prior approval or request." The dealer then gets the "end-user certificate," he said, which comes from the country where the weapons are being shipped to and is used in international transfers and sales to certify that the buyer is the final recipient of the materials. It also prevents the transfer of weapons to another party. In Afghanistan, for example, either the minister of defense or the minister of interior would provide the end-user statement.


United Nations
on Illicit Small Arms Trade
LEGALLY-BINDING ACCORD ON ARMS BROKERING, COMMON STANDARD FOR END-USER CERTIFICATION AMONG ISSUES RAISED, AS UN SMALL ARMS REVIEW CONTINUES DEBATE



Understanding the conventional arms trade

Rachel Stohl
Director
– Conventional Defense Program
The Stimson Center
1211 Connecticut Avenue, NW (8
th
Floor)
Washington, DC 20036
Abstract.
The global conventional arms trade is worth tens of billions of
dollars every year and is engaged in by every country in the world. Yet, it is often difficult to control the legal trade in conventional arms and
there is a thriving illicit market, willing to arm unscrupulous regimes and
nefarious non-state actors.

This chapter examines the international conventional arms trade, the range of tools that have been used to control
it, and challenges to these international regimes.
INTRODUCTION



international arms dealer. He acquires military technology, including weapons, aircraft, tanks, missiles, and computers, on behalf of governmental clients around the globe. He operates legally, working only works with countries that are allied with the West.


End-user certificate

Perhaps we need to keep an eye on India and Pakistan shooting down planes

arms dealers place restraints upon the weapons the sell limiting the weapons usage. Contractual obligations between the seller and the buyer.
e.g you can buy this technology providing you don't use it against one of our allies. or you wont use it against our forces, or you will only use the weapon against defence poor people, you wont use the weapon against old but now refurbished Russian Migs as that may cause our repatriation to suffer as it would adversely impact upon sales of our weapons of mass destruction; agreements attached to contractual obligation describing the end use of the product.
May be sold on the bases of all the above and the weapon could only be used in the Afghan theater of war and then only in against Bin Laden camels...dunnowave laugh

Perhaps we need to keep an eye on India and Pakistan shooting down planes

India-Pakistan ceasefire collapses, with civilians and soldiers killed in fresh fighting

Posted about 4 hours ago

India and Pakistan have violated a ceasefire along the Line of Control in the disputed region of Kashmir, killing at least six civilians and two Pakistani soldiers.


Key points:

Fresh fighting broke out less than 24 hours after Pakistan released Indian pilot in a 'gesture of peace'
Among the dead are two siblings and their mother, who were from Indian-controlled Kashmir
Pakistan claims that Indian troops with heavy weapons "indiscriminately targeted border villagers"

Perhaps we need to keep an eye on India and Pakistan shooting down planes

The US is seeking more information on the potential misuse of American-made F-16 fighter jets by Pakistan against India in violation of the end-user agreement, the State Department has said.

Pakistan to fully re-open commercial airspace Monday

RE: why not airlift food to venezuela.....?......

US envoy to Venezuela confirms plans to hold direct talks with Russia

US may launch military intervention in Venezuela, says Lavrov

Perhaps we need to keep an eye on India and Pakistan shooting down planes

Five Russian airlines had to reroute 33 flights because of tensions between India and Pakistan, Russian Deputy Transport Minister Alexander Yurchik told the Rossiya-1 TV channel.

Eight Indian fighters took on 24 Pakistani jets in unprecedented dogfight — media

Perhaps we need to keep an eye on India and Pakistan shooting down planes

Pakistan partially reopens airspace, eastern airports to remain closed

The closure of the airspace left thousands of air travellers stranded worldwide and more than than 700 international and domestic flights were cancelled during the last three days to and from the country including flights to New Delhi.

Thousands of travellers were left scrambling on Thursday when Thai Airways International cancelled more than a dozen flights to and from Europe after Pakistan closed its airspace amid rising tensions with India.

Flights to and from London, Munich, Paris, Brussels, Milan, Vienna, Stockholm, Zurich, Copenhagen, Oslo, Frankfurt, and Rome had been scheduled to fly over Pakistani airspace on Thursday, Thai Airways said in a statement.

Perhaps we need to keep an eye on India and Pakistan shooting down planes

I agree and I think its a pity America doesn't start listening to others, do something positive about the rapid decline of its lawlessness a wide spread lack of concern for the less well off within its own boarders, I think it stop telling the world how to suck eggs because the other nations don't need advice from the like of Bolton, Nacy Trump or any of there political war munging clowns

Perhaps we need to keep an eye on India and Pakistan shooting down planes

this displays how stupid the American government is, probably also want to shoot Bin Laden again to...
US State Department is offering $1 million as a reward for the “identification or location” of Hamza bin Laden – son of notorious Al-Qaeda terrorist Osama

RE: why not airlift food to venezuela.....?......

Venezuela is a member of the One Belt Road group, an international trade group of countries now accounting for about half of all international transactions.
One Belt Road group was started by China (Australia is also a part member of One Belt Group) the One Belt Group of Nations are not making trade settlements in US$'s.
It is in opposition to an American dominated world economic system and Venezuela right to enjoy that system for settlements is backed by China and Russia, the latter USA was foolish enough to force into bed with china...

RE: how do you foreigners see The Netherlands?

meeting in Hanoi for today has been cut short after unwanted media question:

Kim welcomes idea of having U.S. office

Kim Jong-un was asked by a journalist if he would allow the U.S. to open an office in North Korea, a question Trump called "interesting."

The North Korean delegation asked if they could have the media leave the room, but Trump requested an answer.

Kim said, through his interpreter: "That is something which is welcomeable."

Trump responded that "I actually think it's a good idea."

After the question, reporters were asked to leave the room.

Perhaps we need to keep an eye on India and Pakistan shooting down planes

At the beginning of 2017, India had an estimated 130 nuclear warheads, up from 110 the previous year, according to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute.

Pakistan had approximately 140 nuclear warheads in 2017, up from 120 to 130 a year earlier.
However, Pakistan has more plutonium-production reactors than India and the capability to produce up to 20 nuclear warheads a year.

When Chinese invaded Tibet they (People's Liberation Army) also captured Aksai Chin which was part of Ladakh (a district in Jammu & Kashmir), 1.2 million Tibetans were killed under Chinese rule.
Because of its strategic importance. Aksai Chin is situated at high altitude and is closer to Delhi making china a immediate threat to India's sovereignty.

RE: why not airlift food to venezuela.....?......

Chinese and Russian foreign ministers voiced their opposition to military action in Venezuela on Wednesday

China, which is one of Venezuela's main creditors, has maintained a stance of neutrality and non-interference, as Venezuela's economy is wracked by hyperinflation and shortages of basic necessities amid the escalating power struggle between Maduro and Guaido.

"The nature of the Venezuela problem is Venezuela's internal affairs," China's Foreign Minister Wang Yi said, echoing his Russian counterpart's comments on military intervention.

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