Killing in Quebec Mosque

My friend from Switzerland and England shared me their fears of rapid growth of altercations in their countries.

Then, this came out of the news.

It's still being assessed as to what is going on.

One of my poster from forum contributed the video but I don't know how to post the link.
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"Parts of Europe are like a war zone due to immigrants, the police in Malmo Sweden have had to call in troupes because they can't handle it".

One of my dear friend exactly said this words. He lives in Europe and I feel his concerns.
Hi lindsy I watched a video the other day and first the media reported that six people had died then it was reported that seven had died.
Rizla, we have news as part of the section, is it any different as sharing what's out there?
Yes thus site delete blogs or thread that promotes such negative results when the discussion becomes vicious.
Seriously Seri, you're saying that being all over the news, I should be ashamed for sharing this?
For the context of your interpretation! Yes!
It is not a question of liking Muslims or not6, it's how they feel if the current situation.

You on the other hand should be ashamed for judging it as such.
Thanks CC, I haven't really sthe latest.
You know why I think a Muslim is a better person than you?
He/she would still invite you to their home and share their food with you and provide you with a shelter.

Even knowing and aware about your hatred and ignorance.
Judging?
Lindsay your blog and forum life is full of it!
There's so much hate propaganda on record from you.
I'm not judging, these are square facts that you have provided.
Seri, I can say the same thing about you.

This isn't about me or you. This is the current trend of the world.

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Yes it is about me and you,Lindsy...and every other member here.

The hate and fear propaganda has driven US citizens into the arms of a lunatic, who is hurting people with his hate and ignorance, with his words and his actions.

It is about me and you and everybody else, because it's a global issue!
Z,
the express? Really?
Try something more independent wink
Seri, I assume you do mean that I should not write anything that's like Z said: quite saturated in global news.

Lol..what is the matter Seri, you can't discuss important matters that concerns everyone?

Don't be personal Seri, I can share any topic that's valuable for the world to share.

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And just to point out Z,
please read the headline of this blog, then continue with the context of it.


Thanks ladies and gentlemen.
I am done.
Seri, it was not my intention for anyone to read the headlines, rather the articles under them.

It's my belief the OP for this blog & the gist of what's being discussed are linked.
I couldn't agree with you more Z.

I have so many friends in France who are mostly retired and they do get very affected with the negative changes brought about by the migration like you said.

I can only sympathize with them. Some of them are very worried and very uncomfortable with the inability of the government to give answers to their concerns.

I feel very close to their issues because I travel there at least once every two years. Now that will change of course and it is not good.
What a good point you brought out there Not, but in reality we are dealing with volatile times when it comes to peace and tolerance. Imagine, just a topic like this and here comes the ones who hate the messenger. As though I have created all these mess when all I am doing is bringing up to the awareness of everyone who is affected.

I gather people like Seri would rather not talk about and pretend it is not happening. What a choice she makes.

To me, it is better if we do talk about it and constructively and collectively find a way to solve it. But no, the mentality of most people is preempted with prejudice and make it so hard to find a good positive discussion to agree or disagree.

Thanks Not.
Now that seems like ignorance of facts and what is truly happening is then encouraged in that regard Z./

Lol I have a feeling that that is exactly what Seri wants. To not talk about these things, never mind that it is happening. Denial is not a good option Seri.
Nota, agreed, but it doesn't have to be that way, there's a lot of us Brits living in Spain, we don't (as a rule) cause any problems for the Spanish, we tend not to interfere with there politics, we don't riot on the streets when we don't like something, we certainly never attack them, had the current wave of migrants applied the same principles & accepted the hospitality of the nations they're in we wouldn't be having this conversation.
In south of France Z, where mostly my retired English gentleman friends reside, they are the same. They don't cause the French people any squabbles and or intentional damage to properties and or question any of the political and or social laws. They are peaceful and contribute much to the economy of the French government.

I know that much. They are all very intellectual and law abiding people welcomed very warmly to live there.
Yes I would agree that we shouldn't be shy about asserting the superiority of secular Western values.
It's insane that it even needs to be said.
Scotty do I feel then that just because that is the case so we don't do nothing but justify it as though it is a contest as to who has done more harm and not?

You are missing the point Scotty. The current cases of terrorism may or may not be connected with those killings but it is about time we have to address these dangers that is harming people and deal with it as best to find a solution on how to end it.

Just because these muslims have not killed as much, don't mean we have to allow this to happen, right?
There are so many topics out there Scotty, what about specifically post it that which you feel like? I can't incorporate all those topics as murder and killings cover pretty much a huge scale in discussion. I am always picking up those that are very current and I believe part of the rule on the CS is to address what is related to the post. It doesn't mean to say that just because I have specifically chosen a certain topic means it denies the existence of other related issues.

In the meantime, let us stay on my post which is about killing taking place right now and that it is affecting our current world.

On the sentiments of those in Europe like my dear friends and as mentioned by one of our Senior blogger here, we can talk about them but don't make the poster and or the messenger be the bad guy.

If anything I am a very peaceful person but the difference is that I am active in exposing these crimes per my choice of topic. They are not my creation, they are only recycled current events that I want to share to those interested in here.

Thank you.
Scotty, oh sure, I'm old enough to have seen things like this come & go, we'll get over this & the next thing will come along, but each issue has to be resolved, they don't resolve themselves, anyone who wants to ignore what's happening will in due course find themselves living under sharia law, where a simple date results in public flogging, or being Christian or any religion other than muslim can result in being stoned to death, go to any part of the UK where muslims are in a majority & try living as you're used to, having a drink or cuddling your girlfriend in public will result in a visit from the religious police, women are forced to wear a bag over there head (before anyone claims they do that by choice I do have links that show otherwise), your girlfriend won't be allowed to drive or even leave the house without a male family member accompanying them, and yes I have a link for a woman stoned to death because she went to the shops whilst her husband was away on business & she'd run out of food.

I'm quite sure the vast majority of muslims are perfectly nice people, problem is once they hold control of any area the hard line religious leader take control & force the above, personally I'm not prepared to live that way, if they want to live in Europe it's up to them to adapt to our customs not us to there's.
Well said Z, where are the opposing members to disagree with this simple and very direct principles of tolerance?

I am sure if you were a muslim, you can either reject and insist that it is the law regardless of whether you are a migrant to that country. But if you are respectful and observe the law preexisting to your arrival in a certain country, then live by the rules of the host and not impose on yours.

Simple, can we all agree to that?

Of course not, you know why? It is written per the ordinance of your Muhamad that you calipate the world.

That is the mistake. We are going to be killed or follow their Sharia Law, is it not? Well let us see where this will get us..

Z those are very bad practice and I am so happy I am not a muslim.
This is super eloquent Not, and quite simply very idealistic in addressing the issues.

The one thing that stands out to be very clear right now is this: Our inability to discuss this issues with Honest and intellectual discourse.

Now I didn't see any solutions that can put our objectives vis a vis humanity in pursuing the truth.

Simply a rhetoric of what is going on.

Very well put observation of what is at the moment. I am more in getting a logical solution that serves best all our human interest. For me, Trump is indeed putting the right actions that achieve our goal. To be safe.

Thanks.
Trump is certainly being very active, to his credit.

He strikes me though as a guy who acts with the decisiveness/certainty of someone who doesn't have a deep understanding of world affairs.
ie. The quickest short cut to having conviction is a lack of understanding, which of course is a big part of the problem.
(which is not to say he's not dealing with some very intractable issues.)

I wish him well.
I want him to prove a lot of people wrong, including me (for the good of the world).

I'm sure he's super concerned about my opinion of him ;)
I am certain he's quick to decipher what is and not. You mentioned about his lacking of deep understanding of world affairs and maybe you are right and maybe you are wrong. He is exactly whom we need to channel the needed changes from the clutch of these too politically experienced people like that of the Clintons.

On the one hand, I don't ever view his lack of expertise on world politics as a liability. He is a very perceptive man and knows exactly how to deliver what he needs to make these changes the world needs for that matter and or specifically our country. He is acting well and fast in meeting these changes that acutely affect our journey to making it great.

It is not an easy road that is for sure and accounting from previous administration, he has more enemy now that are coming up in the open from our liberal super leftist oriented politicians like the Pelosis of California and that alone is a very difficult hurdle to overcome.

On the course of the English politics, I view May's change of perception to him as a very good thing and I am positive that his influence on those foreign policy will be soon carried on by some supporters that has completely have ignored or loathed him a year ago.

It is not his duty first and foremost to please his pundits as much as it is his priority to deliver what he promised to us that supported him and he seems well on executing them.

Thank you.
Seems a lone young male took it upon himself to kill muslims....No big deal..the west have been doing it for a while now, what the issue here ?
Seri, all my posts if you notice are not even personally coined by me. I only copy them and expose them here which is my right to do. Given the title as Current Events, I am allowed to post it here.

Do I understand that I should not have them shared on here?

Because when you said, shame on me, what good does it do when you don't stop the syndication of all these news published all over the world?

You are wrong and you know that. These are current events that are happening and it is our obligation to put it out there, whether here or anywhere. I copy paste these stories quoting them as rightfully allowed.

Why do you hate that I put them out here?

Now if you are smart as I thought you were, your reactions should have been, why are these things happening and what do we do to stop them?

Don't you think this is not a constructive way of reacting to it? Stopping me and hating me is wrong Seri.
Thank you Ian for your additional information. Well one man can do just as much damage and it is so sad.wave

Good morning.
Seri, I can see what you're saying but can't agree that the two are not linked, from what we know so far the incident in Canada does appear to be a nutter with a gun, as you say driven by "hate & fear", however I think you do the population an injustice to suggest they just read headlines & make decisions based on that, I know it's a thing on CS that some can't be bothered to read past the blog title before making there contribution, but I believe in the "real" world people are better informed & make there mind up on issues based on the facts.

I also feel I should take you to task with your assertion "The other is the result of the international issue,thousands of people escaping war and death", that is only part of the story, the number of real refugees is a small proportion of migrants entering Europe (accurate percentage being hard to come by) , I believe Germany alone has a backlog of half a million migrants who've failed asylum & are due for deportation, not many would argue that we have a duty to take care of refugees, especially bearing in mind the cause of the wars that created them (discussed in Ian's blog today), but the problem imo is the others who've tagged alone with the real refugees, we can not allow them to run riot in our society unchecked, of course nobody in there right mind is backing nutters walking into religious buildings & shooting people indiscriminately, but that doesn't mean there's no link between the two imo, no way would I agree with such actions however I do want to see the back of undesirables who've entered Europe or anywhere else illegally regardless of religion.
I can see that too, Ian, but like I said, the current events are mostly my source of stories as they are the prevailing events and I do pick all those that I thought would enlighten us if we look at it as a tool of information to make it either not doing it again and or find a solution to stop it from happening again.

Now to create balance, anyone can post anything that can counter weigh what is discussed.

I do remember that, but that was a way and means of making the war won. Embargo is a legitimate response to an act that solicits resolution Ian and I can't have a way of controlling that.
You don't hate me, that is good.

Now I am not pointing out as you accuse me of, that muslim is the only cause of all these terrorism. I didn't say that. Based on all the events that are happening, however, we the Americans are the subject of all the terrorism done by muslims. That is the truth isn't it?

You came right off my face of asking why I hate muslims so much. You tell me Seri, what does killing do to you? When we suffered all the killings done in the previous years starting that of Sept. 11, and carried on, do you know how it makes you feel?

I have to right to express that these killings should and must stop.

When I posted the study, after reading it, here is my first reaction: Well, if this is true (Ian supported the truth) then we can all make a suggestion and stop the practice.

But no, you were so aggressive in accusing me of hating muslims so much. I hate all killings of any kind by anybody. For right now, muslims are the ones who declared to kill us all. We don't.

Now I feel more like you don't want me to write any of these never mind that they are the truth and never mind that we can learn from them?

You are wrong Seri. You should take the opportunity to dispute and or do something good out of it.

I am only a messenger Seri. I don't intend to make it worst. Surely not exposing them and or talking about them is as bad as advocating them.
Z,
I'm young and therefore willing to learn and open to reasonable and alternative oppositions of my view.
And I agree with you, there is a link between the killing in Quebec and the news, that hit the headlines.
it's ignorance,hate and fear.

I grew up with Muslims,they were neighbors,the girls and boys in my class,the shop owner who would give me a discount for my loyalty to his business, the mother of 3 who cleans offices and toilets from 6pm to 3am,
the father of 2 working double shifts in a factory, the engineer who worked hard to gain this qualification in order to provide for his parents and many more like everyone else...

Those who spread terror in the name of their faith, are not Muslims, they are maniacs and extremists.
Those who spread terror and fear , due the lack of consideration of hysterical evidence about the bad choices of their leaders, are not afraid, they are willing to accept prejudice and judgmental propaganda.
historically not hysterical
Miss Jones

You have a tough job, this kinda job is a very difficult ones as who you truly are as a person has to be put aside many times.
There are alot of things I could add to blogs such as this one but blogs as this one only spirals hate, separation and degradation and definitely I'm against anything that undermines anyone....

Seri made some very important points, my first job as a baby sitter at the age of 19 I took care of a Muslim baby, wonderful couple indeed but I left the job within 6 months or so.

I understand much more than you think, sometimes though some jobs keeps everything going it can be our worst nightmare at times.wink
Additionally, I don't see hate, I see a woman doing her job.
I try to look at the bigger picture and from a small frame.wink
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