Modern Man and Woman

The way life is today, and it is continuously evolving, has change drastically in the last 20 or so years. The question is, what real value can a man bring to modern women?

Money....no
Security....no
Repairing Stuff...no
Children...not really (many women are holding off on that).
Sex...maybe...for a bit
Companionship...naw...too many social outlets on internet
Cooking...maybe lol
Rub her feet...perhaps
Be a dancing monkey...maybe


With all these perhaps and maybes....is that really enough for a woman to put up with the same man for many years?

What other things can a man offer a woman today?

Maybe protect her at the nightclub while she is picking up other guys? dunno
Maybe try to offer genuine compliments to secure her ego? dunno


Times have changed and roles have also. I suppose in another 10 or so years, we might find out where we all fit in.
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John


There there...men are valuable...wine


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I suppose LouLou, we make good punching bags. laugh
Thank you Pro....It seems to me that the ones who deserve it are getting more difficult to find.wave
John

You're welcome.
Time is the master of all things. You'll never know when it will happen. while things are working out itself, it would be nice that we take some time to assess things and sometimes it means talking to an ex to find out what we were doing wrong and this means being humble, though the answers we gain might not be to our likings but it surely can keep us from having another disastrous or failed relationship.
The question is, what real value can a man bring to modern women?

Number one would be Love and so on.
Kindness, thoughtfulness and like CC said, love.

Hello Johnny.

SR
Johnny ::wave:

Being EGOISTIC is the number one factor for most relationships to not work. hug cheers

We could have everything we need in life or in a relationship, but if we can not control our egos, then it is doomsday for any relationship....cheers hug
Hi Johny,
Im only a trespasser in here..reading your blog it is a good topic.
Just wanna say im 100% agree with the ladies comment in here
wine Prof1, Loulou, CC ,Lindsey ..

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No matter how "twisted" it gets I know lots of happy couples who enjoy clubs,and home life without any reason
to create drama around them. you imagine that it would feel like you're a 3 rd wheel,or someone's going to suggest a menage a troi' but either way there are modern couples who still want to stay together and enjoy it.


They are very respectful and are honest in all aspects of their lives. thumbs up
Seems you are with guy friends who've gone solo recently.Divorced people need
a night out too.Besides small town bars have regulars to bs with when you're single.
By Modern,do you mean 20-30 years of age? rolling on the floor laughing then ask your daughter..
Molly

I agree with most of what you've said.
Seems as if you went right for Johnny though.
"The truth is simply that the dichotomy we construct with the “misandry 4 lyfe” taglines and the “all men are this way or that way” framework is as dangerous as it is disingenuous. It allows enormous amounts of young women to believe that, in their support of what they perceive to be a wholly progressive and benign cause, they are exempt from upholding the status quo which subjugates so many others. It oversimplifies incredibly complex social issues. And it erases the very intersections of privilege and oppressions which define our lives and make the need to fight for equality so essential." aka misguided "girl power".professor
You GO Johnny! Do what you gotta do. Lots of ladies out there just waiting to give it to you.
Err, so I heard. Them nightclub dancing girls and the others that charge 5.99 a minute on the phone.
But either way, GO, have fun. Yeah! head banger

Nahh, uh uh, I don't agree with Molly at all. NO way. snooty

And I didn't quite understand what Ashy said. Hmm, I'll have to get my fine tooth comb and magnifying glass to look at her comment better. confused

Have a fun day Johnny! cheers
Hello Prof,

Talking to an ex is not a terrible idea...hopefully if that is done, the honest reason(s) are exposed.
Cc...thank you. So there is some hope out there for us men.


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SR....those are all great things. What is difficult is when a man gives all those things and gets nothing in return.


I know...the wrong woman....but, it seems with feminism...the wrong woman is becoming more widespread. dunno



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rolling on the floor laughing Robert....I am surprised she didn't complain because you could not spin straw into gold. laugh

You sound like one of many men in today's world Robert. I think all us single men need to wait to win the lottery (finding the right woman) to get in a relationship with....well, that too...millions of dollars wouldn't hurt either. laugh


But as some have said here on the responses, I am sure this is just another rant blog...to some extent...and nothing more. I just rekindle this subject because my friend's 80+ year old mother (a woman) stated the difficulty for men with feminism....and that is with me not even saying a word about my thoughts to him in the first place.


We can try and downplay the difficulty for modern man as much as we like, but reality will still trump any situation.


Thanks Robert

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Hello Whitelilly and welcome to the blogs. That is another breath of fresh air hearing another woman say they find a man attractive who can give respect, compassion, and love to a woman.

Thank you for sharing your outlook. thumbs up

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Hello Ash,

I would agree that there are some couples out there that are truly happy with each other. Honestly, it puts a smile on my face when I see them together. It is nice to see true love in action.

I do have some friends that are single. I always say (this is a pleasant version of what I say), that many women are not the right ones....but there are some women out there that are good. laugh

The real thing I say is....there are a lot of crazy f..k..g women out there...but there some that are nice.

...but as a disclaimer, that goes for men too...but we are not looking for them. laugh


That thing is Ash, yes even with the 20 and 30 somethings...I see a lot of single women out and about...even if they are in a relationship...with a look of scorn on their faces. Is that the result of feminism....

dunno

But with what logic tells me, and my friend's 80 year old female mother....maybe.


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....and no Ash...I have no children.
Hello Molly,

Being a single man and living in a feminist society, you offer me some good advice. conversing

So your saying that feminism does not change a thing at all for men? Maybe you are and just did not choose to mention that. dunno

I think becoming a man's man will not hurt a thing...as you suggest. I would argue...and I know this is about as negative as it comes...lol.....but, I would argue that might not quite be enough today for many women. Of course, not all women. I have seen some beautiful souls out there.


Thank you Molly.

I cannot wait to debate this further. laugh


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Prof....Molly spares no expense when trying to find my jugular. rolling on the floor laughing
Ash....you do bring up a very important point about the surrounding environment. People are products of their environment and that does make a difference. Just like the national/global environment of feminism. tongue

But....great point Ash. thumbs up
Ash...

I read your shared article. thumbs up Thanks for sharing it.

The way I see feminism, and don't get me wrong, many aspects of it are worthy. But, as I argued before, it means different things to different women. How far will some of these women take it? As you article points out, feminism is developing into this man-hating mentality among women.

Maybe in time women will see this for themselves...in the meanwhile, have fun finding love single men.


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Robert you are an amazing wing man! .laugh
If you try to ask the guy, chances are she'll answer for him.rolling on the floor laughing with the Face.
I think that is referred to as,putting the cats meow on a pedestal. laugh
I'm going with Jim's premise...men are happier.dancing
Johnny, you know I'm always ready to debate any subject with you grin


But, we'll have to stop with the labels.

A Man's Man to me brings up visions of the man having a few pints after work as he waits for the little wife to have his dinner cooked for him.

A Ladies Man brings up visions of a man who can't take his eyes off of anything in a skirt.

The word you are looking for is.....Man.
In the U.S. both are complimentary:
Ladie's Man-he can be charming,well-dressed and desirable so is
Single and engaging.Not considered devious,but very capable.

Man's Man-usually held in high opinion by men,as someone
trustworthy,leader,have your side in a fight and a little bit rogue.
Might be gallant towards women but not a serial dater.


There you decide...a man is many things,
less complicated for one.


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Thanks Ash.

Different things do have different meanings to different people bouquet
I have a lot to say here but kinda busy here...maybe latergrin
Molly laugh
Thanks Molly, I will try and remember to remove the appropriate labels on my next blog. ...But, I would like to hear a suggestion on a potential good debate blog. I suppose I could debate your last response by saying that labels are sometimes necessary in order to convey a proper message. laugh

Ash...Great! You straighten up Molly...would ya. thumbs up grin tongue

CH....geez. I waited up all night for you to find the time to post your response. moping

Non/Molly....now you two have given me some great ideas for my tattoo. Perhaps I could get both of those...one on each cheek. hmmm ....let me think about that. rolling on the floor laughing
Johnny I can guarantee that the women you meet can sense your feelings about feminism and your obsession with it...you are continually mentioning the topic here on CS so it is clear it is a issue for you.

The way I understand feminism is women being treated with equal worth and dignity as a man...not better, not no longer needing him, but free to fully realize her own potential in a loving partnership.

If men need to win the lottery to find a good woman...don't you know women also are having trouble finding a good man? Forget "feminism" as Lou said it is not the problem. ..if you feel it is can you define exactly why?
Hello Calm,

Yes. About a year or so ago I did bring up the concerns with feminism from a male perspective. It is not like I need to justify myself here, but I would like to correct your perception of me.

I brought up feminism because of a real and genuine concern I seen the movement causing in society. Maybe it was a rightful concern or perhaps just some sort of illusion. dunno

If I recall correctly, there was a sufficient amount of conversation about this perceived concern of mine and the topic was eventually dropped by me. I think that was about a year ago...I am not keeping track.

When my friend brought up the subject on his own free will, without any influence from me...in fact, his mother brought it up to him. She is a woman I have not spoken to in over 20 years...perhaps even longer. So I know for sure I had no influence on her bringing up the subject. But when he brought it up to me, I felt there was a need to reevaluate my thoughts on this subject, somewhat, and bring it to the forefront here on the blogs.

Does that make me obsessed? I suppose some may perceive it that way. I myself, I don't think so...but what do I know.

The points of feminism you make are all great one and I totally agree with the beautiful things you mention about feminism are bringing women. applause buddies danceline reunion party ...happy as a lark about that. laugh

But....feminism is being perceived in different ways by different people. ...in some (perhaps many) cases, feminism is leading to a man-hating, man-worthless, society.

You want to talk about being fair to genders....what about a man who wants a family of his own? A woman can choose to have a child of her own much more easily than a man who wants a family of his own.

Anyway, there have been some women who agree that feminism isn't exactly what it was intended to do...as you say. Ash is doing a much better job than me pointing out some issues that feminism has caused in society. I am glad she is doing that...if I were doing that, I wonder what sort of label would be assigned to me?

Anyway...labels aside...we cannot deny reality.

There are women out there that are feminist and great people for relationships...I am not saying all feminists are incompatible with men. But, the movement in general has certainly changed the value of a man to a woman....to the point of a man having virtually zero value.

Thank you for your comment Calm.

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