RE: GOD ONLY TAKES THE BEST.

The Old Man
by John Mcdermott

The tears have all been shed now
We’ve said our last goodbyes
His souls been blessed
He’s laid to rest
And it’s now I feel alone

He was more than just a father
A teacher my best friend
He can still be heard
In the tunes we shared
When we play them on our own

(chorus)
I never will forget him
For he made me "what I am"
Though he may be gone
Memories linger on
And I miss him,
the old man

As a boy he’d take me walking
By mountain field and stream
And he showed me things
Not known to kings
A secret between him and me

Like the colours of the pheasant
As he rises in the dawn
And how to fish and make a wish
Beside the holly tree

I thought he’d live forever
He seemed so big and strong
But the minutes fly
And the years roll by
For a father and a son

And suddenly when it happened
There was so much left unsaid
No second chance
To tell him thanks
For everything he’s done

(chorus)
I never will forget him
For he made me "what I am"
Though he may be gone
Memories linger on
And I miss him,
the old man

RE: Any song ever stopped you in your tracks?

"Superstition" by Stevie Wonder I was transfixed first time I heard it. The man is a genious.

"Reach out" by the Four Tops. I actually heard this performed first by a band from Baltimore at a Holiday Inn one night and I was so blown away by it I kept saying "damn those guys are GOOD they should cut a record".

"25 or 6 to 4" by Chicago, Had to get the 45 immediately. I still have it.

"Siute Judy Blue Eyes" by Crosby Stills Nash & Young.

Don't laugh but "And I Love You So" by Perry Como.

RE: Gas Prices

Good luck, but don't be disappointed if you don't get any action because if The president can't do anything about gas prices I doubt a governor can.
You call it price gouging, others might call it supply & demand.

Anyway, here's some reading material to keep you occupied while waiting on that gas line.

HOUSTON (Dow Jones)--Valero Energy Corp. (VLO) has completed the shutdown of its Houston, Texas City and Port Arthur refineries as Hurricane Ike approached the coastline, the company said Friday evening. There is no word on when the company will be able to send crews in to assess damage after the storm passes, said spokesman Bill Day. Ike is expected to make landfall late Friday or early Saturday causing a significant storm surge, which could flood several refineries along the Texas coast. There were already reports of flooding in the Galveston area. -By Susan Daker, Dow Jones Newswires; (713) 547-9208; susan.daker@dowjones.com

RE: Gas Prices

BTW rolltide, where would you send that petition?

RE: The Last One To Post Is My King.......

Bumplaugh

RE: The Last One To Post Is My King.......

Step aside agman, I'll handle this!comfort

RE: ABOUT SARAH PALIN

You might do well to remember Democrat FDR, he was chomping at the bit to get into the fight with Germany and Japan.
You would also do well to remember Democrat Harry Truman, The only president to drop 2 atomic bombs on an enemy.
You would also do well to remember Democrat Lyndon Johnson who escalated the war in Viet Nam to surprising levels.
You would also do well to remember Democrat John F Kennedy who was prepared to take on the Soviet Union in all out war over offensive missles being put in Cuba.

Don't ever make the mistake of thinking Democrats are afraid of a fight we love to fight, but we pick our battles because we aren't stupid. We don't invade the wrong country and we don't engage in holy wars, we leave that lunacy to christians & muslims.

John McCains decision to pick extremist Sarah Palin as his running mate just shows how whacky he really is.

RE: ABOUT SARAH PALIN

Me too, the more I hear about this person the less I want her anywhere near the Whitehouse OR possibly making Supreme court appointments. If McCain wins and croaks, you can kiss the Constitution goodbye, they'll be teaching creationism in place of biology in schools, women will lose control over their bodies, books will be removed from libraries and bookstores, religeon will be forced onto people and we'll be at war permanently. This woman is totally unqualified to be president of the United States. It doesn't matter that she was a mayor of some backwoods town in Alaska or even Gov of the state. she's just too damn far out in right field. If she inherits the presidency there will be all out civil war between the right & left in this country and it will be torn apart. If anyone thinks this country is polarized now, well, you aint seen nothing yet.

RE: When you need a lift and your being asked are you a Democrate, or Republican it may make a different

We Democrats have our priorities in order.banana

RE: Calming needed for pre Driving Test nerves.

That would never work for me if it happened to be a female tester I would run into the first telephone pole I came to.
At the minimum she'd fail me for not keeping my eye on the road. This would be me--->uh oh or--->wow

Ask her, how would you like to be taking a test in a tracter trailer? I think the Kansan can relate to that.

Liberal Rock Stars to McCain-Palin Campaign: Stop Using Our Songs

The McCain-Palin jukebox options are shrinking.

The latest rockers to tell the Republicans to cease spinning their albums are the women from Heart, who were chagrined to hear their song "Barracuda" play at the Republican convention as Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin hit the stage. Palin, a star high school basketball point guard, was nicknamed "Sarah Barracuda." The official Heart website states
The Republican campaign did not ask for permission to use the song, nor would they have been granted that permission.
"Sarah Palin's views and values in NO WAY represent us as American women."

In February, John Mellencamp

had his publicist Bob Merlis write the McCain campaign to suggest it might be better if McCain stopped playing "Our Country" at McCain rallies, given Mellencamp's liberal views

In August, Jackson Browne sued McCain and the Ohio GOP sued McCain and the Ohio Republican Party for the Ohio GOP's use of his song "Running on Empty" in an attack ad against Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill.

Van Halen also took issue with the McCain campaign's use of the song "Right Now" during its Dayton, Ohio, rally where Palin was introduced to the American people as McCain's running mate. MTV news reported

that "Van Halen’s members aren’t too happy about it. According to the band’s publicist, the members had no idea McCain was going to use their song as his entrance theme and were never approached by McCain’s camp for permission to use the track. 'Had they asked, permission would not have been granted,'" Van Halen's publicist said. A similar situation played out in 2000, with Mellencamp, Sting and others expressing chagrin that then-Gov. George W. Bush was using their songs to fire up supporters.

RE: What Can I Do Now

First of all having to wait 72 hours is BS! If she doesn't show up at school I would contact the police and also the news media. 3 days is enough time for some creep to make it all the way to Mexico.

Another thing you might try is go to the club with a photo of her and ask the employees if they saw her and if they know who she was hangin with.

I sincerely hope everything works out but you must be beside yourself with worry.hug

RE: Bush will remain in power..how you ask?

Can't be bought?
He is already bought and paid for! rolling on the floor laughing

Merrill Lynch $296,913
Citigroup Inc $268,501
Morgan Stanley $234,272
Goldman Sachs $208,395
JPMorgan Chase & Co $179,975
AT&T Inc $174,497
Greenberg Traurig LLP $150,387
Greenberg Traurig Indicted in Guam
Posted by Nathan Koppel
Greenberg Traurig is in hot water in the tropical U.S. territory of Guam.
The ginormous firm – 1,750 lawyers and counting — was indicted Tuesday in connection with alleged lobbying activities by former employee Jack Abramoff, who pleaded guilty in 2006 to a conspiracy to bribe public officials.



Credit Suisse Group $150,025
Blank Rome LLP $149,426
Security for Sale
The Department of Homeland Security has a section on its Web site labeled “Open for Business.” It certainly is.
Sarah Posner | December 18, 2005

When Blank Rome signed up 18 companies as new homeland security clients that year, and added homeland security to its lobbying duties for half a dozen existing clients, no ethics rules barred Buchholtz, Holman, and Davis from lobbying the new department



PricewaterhouseCoopers $140,120
UBS AG $139,665
US Government $137,117
Bank of America $129,475
Wachovia Corp $122,846
Lehman Brothers $117,500
Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher $104,250

(02)

US Army $102,898
FedEx Corp $99,753
Bear Stearns $99,300
Sidley Austin LLP $96,200


RE: Bush will remain in power..how you ask?

EARMARKS:
OMB defines earmarks as funds provided by the Congress for projects or programs where the congressional direction (in bill or report language) circumvents Executive Branch merit-based or competitive allocation processes, or specifies the location or recipient, or otherwise curtails the ability of the Executive Branch to manage critical aspects of the funds allocation process.

"I can eliminate $100 billion of wasteful and earmark spending immediately--35 billion in big spending bills in the last two years, and another 65 billion that has already been made a permanent part of the budget."
--John McCain, NPR All Things Considered, April 23, 2008.

"The Pinocchio Test
McCain's talk about eliminating $100 billion a year in earmarks is largely fantasy. His advisers are now promoting a more realistic plan of eliminating $100 billion in overall spending. But it is difficult to take even that promise very seriously given the fact that the senator refuses to identify exactly which projects he will cut. To use a phrase coined by George H.W. Bush, this is "voodoo economics," based more on wishful thinking than on hard data or carefully considered policy proposals.

McCain Falsely Claims He Has ‘Never Asked For A Single Earmark Or Pork Barrel Project’ For His State»
McCain’s claim is false. In 2006, the senator teamed up with fellow Arizona senator Jon Kyl (R) to funnel $10 million toward the University of Arizona for an academic center named after the late Supreme Court Justice William Rehnquist. Even Arizona lawmaker, Rep. Jeff Flake (R), said he was planning to “lean against the measure.” The National Taxpayers Union, another traditional McCain ally, questioned why the senator was making federal taxpayers foot the bill for the center.

In 2003, McCain also slipped $14.3 million into a defense appropriations bill to
create a buffer zone around Luke Air Force Base in Arizona. As Roll Call reported in 2003, this project violated McCain’s own anti-pork rhetoric:

The only problem is the project to acquire more land near the base was not requested by President Bush or fully authorized by the Senate Armed Services Committee - two of McCain’s criteria for identifying so-called ‘pork.

Sen. Ted Stevens (R-AK), a notorious porker, was overjoyed that McCain had joined his side. “One man’s pork is another man’s alternate white meat,” said Stevens. “If he asked for it, we put it in.”

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RE: Does the DNC Actually want Obama to win?

yawn

RE: Pakistani women buried alive 'for choosing husbands'

"Only those who indulge in immoral acts should be afraid."

Yes and the scum who carried out this disgusting crime on those young girls are the most immoral and they should be very afraid.

I guess believers will say "god works in mysterious ways"confused

RE: Should the White Elephant Die?

If you've never been to Quebec and had the french fries from a little roadside stand you don't know what good french fries taste like. What you get at McDonalds is a joke, half of which usually wind up in the garbage.

As to New Orleans, I think having a city built in the oxbow of the biggest river in America that's below sea level was a very flawed idea. The lower ninth ward is probably going to wind up a lake after Gustav gets done with it.

RE: Poll on the McCain/Palin Presidential Ticket

I agree with you ttom, I think creationism should be taught in schools to the extent that at the end of a semester of teaching the science of evolution as the class is walking out the door, the teacher should call them back and say, "Oh BTW, there is a group of people who believe that the first man was created by a spirit who took a lump of clay from the ground and fashioned him into his fully evolved form by breathing life into him (though I don't know why a spirit has a need to breathe) and later he realized he forgot something (though I don't know how a spirit powerful enough to create a universe could overlook something like that) and made a woman out of one of the mans ribs (I guess this spirit ran out of clay). That's all folks, enjoy your spring break!"
How absurd!

Do you actually believe the Bibles version of how mankind has come to be in his present form?
If mankind all came from Adam & Eve, how do you explain black people, Asians, white people? How could these 3 races all come from the same 2 parents? Do you think maybe they EVOLVED into the 3 major races on this planet? Oh no that isn't possible because there's no such thing as evolution.

Oh BTW, if schools are required to teach creationism or intelligent design, maybe they should also teach alchemy and astrology so when the students graduate they can discuss these subjects intelligently too.

The irony of all this is that intelligent design IS being taught in schools all over the world. But it's being done by human beings not by spirits. It's being done by biologists who create new strains of corn & soy beans and by dog breeders who create new breeds (did god create a Boston Terrier?) and cattle farmers and it's even being done by everyday people when they select a mate based on certain characteristics such as height, strength eye color etc. It's called selective breeding, which I like to think of as Accelerated Evolution. Evolution is happening every minutes of the day. Every time a woman gives birth, it is proof of the process of evolution.

Sorry about veering off topic.

RE: Poll on the McCain/Palin Presidential Ticket

I find the similarities very interesting. both camps have a young inexperienced member and an old(er) experienced member.
The difference is, if the president died in office one from old age the other from some racially motivated violence, who would become president?
On the one hand you would wind up with a young inexperienced female hothead who is virtually unknown to the people. On the other you would wind up with an experienced, well respected, known person who would have no trouble assuming the role of president.

This is rapidly becoming an election where the vice president is more important than the president.

Right now! If you had to choose between Susan Palin or Joseph Biden for President of the United States, who would you vote for?

It has been assumed by a many that Hillary supporters were mostly women and it is because she is a woman and no other reason. I find this assumption to be false. Many people were for Hillary (me included) not because she is a woman but because this would have gotten Bill Clinton back in the Whitehouse.

I think the McCain camp picked Palin because they bought the assumption that the Hillary voter is gender biased toward a woman. I think they may have just made a very big mistake which will cost them in November.

The typical female Hillary supporter will be insulted to think that their vote could be won by such a cheap trick of putting a woman on the ballot.

To a Peach

Might be a challenge to put a melody to those words.

I think "Georgia on my Mind" is safe for now. laugh

To a Peach

To a Peach

I planted your mother about 4 years ago.
I watered her and sprayed her and fertilized her.
In winter I pruned her dead wood
and clipped her errant twigs
I saw you when you sprouted as a bud
and then when you became a flower
I watched the bees as they caressed you
and sought nectar from you
you were green and hard as a rock
for months you grew bigger and bigger
now you are here and beaconing me
to pluck you from your mother limb
You smell so sweet so soft and so red
I cannot resist
You are mine,
my reward for all I've done
I want to save you but I can't
I must eat you lest you would rot
succulent peach,
you are worth all my efforts
I'm sorry beautiful peach but
you must die, that I might live

Sophie's Choice -------of sorts

I've decided to bump this thread because this is just too damn important an issue to let die and because there are a lot of new members who haven't voted in this poll.

I would also like to hear some more comments supporting your choice especially from any American who would vote to burn the constitution. If you would set a match to the constitution you must have some good reason to destroy all our rights and our freedoms that our sons and daughters have fought and died for for 100's of years.

RE: Libby questioned on forged letter linking Saddam to 9/11

"Rightttttt sticking our head in the sand, is why we were hit on 9-11.Fact the ones who hit was was trained right here in flying schools. "

I agree we were sleeping at the switch prior to 9/11 Just like we were on Dec. 7, 1941. I guess we are just too damn trusting a nation for a world like this. We give everybody the benifit of the doubt and trust before they actually earn it. But, the American people have a very long memory especially when we get stabbed in the back.

I saw an interview of some of the flight instructors after 9/11 and you can be sure they are carrying a load of guilt with them to this day. One guy said I should have suspected something was not right when my students never asked for instruction on how to land an airplane. It's all crystal clear now but at the time nobody questioned it.

Read this story from 1999 with what we know today and see if you don't agree that we have been sleeping a long time. Notice too that Iraq or Saddam was never mentioned. btw, Bin Laden was born in Saudi Arabia.

RE: Libby questioned on forged letter linking Saddam to 9/11

Point 1, The WMD's were moved is a popular myth perpetrated by people who just can't accept the fact that there were no WMD's and our president took us to war based on a mountain of evidence that it was a lie, a total fabrication.
"During his reign of several decades, he was internationally known for his use of chemical weapons in the 1980s against civilians and in the Iran–Iraq War. Following the 1991 Gulf War he also engaged in a decade-long confrontation with the United Nations and its weapons inspectors, which ended in the 2003 invasion by the United States.

The United Nations located and destroyed large quantities of Iraqi WMD throughout the 1990s in spite of persistent Iraqi obstruction. Washington withdrew weapons inspectors in 1998, resulting in Operation Desert Fox, which further degraded Iraq's WMD capability. The United States and the UK, along with other countries and intelligence experts, asserted that Saddam Hussein still possessed large hidden stockpiles of WMD in 2003, and that he must be prevented from building any more. Inspections by the U.N. restarted from November 2002 until March 2003, but hadn't turned up any evidence of actual WMDs when the United States and the "Coalition of the Willing" invaded Iraq and overthrew Saddam Hussein in March 2003.

Great controversy emerged when no stockpiles of WMDs were found, leading to accusations that the United States, its President George W. Bush in particular, had deliberately inflated intelligence or lied about Iraq's weapons in order to justify an invasion of the country. The non-partisan Center for Public Integrity asserted President Bush's administration made a total of 935 false statements between 2001 and 2003 about Iraq's alleged threat to the United States"


Point 2, He paid families money if their son martyred himself as a suicide bomber against Israeli's. So what! Do we not pay parents of soldiers killed in battle? There is no evidence he paid money before the fact.

RE: greatest funny movie of all time

Isn't it interesting how different peoples idea of humor is. I started watching this movie and found it not only, not funny, but a total bore. By the time they got to the motel with 1 bed I couldn't take any more and switched channels, it was SO predictable! I kept wishing I was watching "The Out of Towners" instead with Jack Lemon & Sandy Dennis.

RE: Rule By Fear Or Rule By Law

"Beginning in 1999, the government has entered into a series of single-bid contracts with Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg, Brown and Root (KBR) to build detention camps at undisclosed locations within the United States. The government has also contracted with several companies to build thousands of railcars, some reportedly equipped with shackles, ostensibly to transport detainees."

I wonder if these detention camps will have showers for people to bathe which can be quickly converted to carry a gas instead of water.
I wonder if these detention camps will have a crematorium for disposing of the dead because a place that big will no doubt have a few deaths.
I wonder if the rail cars will have toilet facilities, water and ventilation for the "detainees" if not many of them will probably not survive the trip. oh, wait, that's a good use for the crematoriums. How wonderful it is when a plan comes together. Isn't it lucky for us we had the experience gleaned from the Third Reich on how to deal with millions of "undesirables".

It's my guess that when word gets out what's going on there will be no need for the INS because the millions of illegals will be leaving by the 1,000, I wonder if they'll have room in the wagon for me?

RE: Poll on the Obama/Biden Presidential Ticket

First I'd like to congratulate your country on winning your first gold medal in the olympics. I watched your athletes performance and it was perfect. The smile and look of pride on his face was priceless.thumbs up thumbs up

It may interest you to know that the average American doesn't even know your country exists other than it was a member of the former USSR. I'm a lot older than you so I have vivid memories of the cold war and the damage it did to peace and stability in the world. I think I speak for all Americans when I tell you that the PEOPLE of the USA have not now nor ever had anything against the PEOPLE of Russia or any of the countries that made up the USSR. Unless I know nothing about human nature I'd bet the feeling is mutual too.

The cold war was a war of words, threats, fear and mistrust which could have and should have been avoided. The problem is though, that governments are made up of people, not always good people, people who are greedy, people who in some cases are paranoid or worse, have absolutely no regard for human life.
It would be wise for you to keep in mind that it wasn't the United States that took over half of Europe after World War 2 it was the Soviet Union that did. The big advantage we have over you is we KNOW our government is flawed, but you're still buying the propaganda you've been spoon fed since you were a baby.

14 Points of fascism: The warning signs pt1

14 Points of fascism: The warning signs pt2


9.) Corporate Power is Protected: The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10.) Labor Power is Suppressed: Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

11.) Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts: Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.

12.) Obsession with Crime and Punishment: Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations

13.) Rampant Cronyism and Corruption: Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections: Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

You can read all the supporting documents right here.



Wake up America, we're losing our country.

RE: V.P. Joe Biden..... is Obama's Pic

Horses have a Lifespan from 25 to 30 years,so how would be a 14 year old Horse ready for the Glue-Factory?

Well I was speaking metaphorically, make that a 30 year old horse ok?

Amazing,to be privy to the secrets of the Reagan White House!

Maybe I was one of the select few eh?

Relocating to Cuba would even be better!

At least if I relocated to Cuba I wouldn't have to decide to eat or get needed medications the way so many poor Americans have to. Hey, I have a great idea, maybe I'll flee to Switzerland. Wouldn't you love to have me as a neighbor? hug rolling on the floor laughing

BTW conrad, I would piss on Fidel Castro and Vladimere Putin if I had the chance. Just because I am very critical of the current band of lying thugs who are running this country at the moment doesn't make me a communist.[/
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RE: greatest funny movie of all time

IMO the greatest funny movie was the original "The Producers" with Zero Mostel and Gene Wilder.

Another favorite from Woody Allen is "Take the Money & Run"

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