Hi, Venus. I think it's natural to prefer being alone if you've had a lot of bad relationships. Being alone can offer more happiness for sure. I sometimes think I was the happiest when I was alone. Certainly less taxing...at least in most obvious ways.
From that I could deduce that I'm best off alone, but I haven't made that deduction. What I've decided instead is that whatever has reduced my happiness in relationships is fixable, and that after said fixing my ideal state of happiness would occur within a relationship. But that's not a minor caveat.
Hey, Snuggie. Thanks for taking the time to read the article.
You know, a lot of apparent disagreement rests on what one means by certain statements. When you spell out your position above, I don't see much I'd care to dispute.
A key point, I think, is that the odds of being with someone who can working loving with you (and vice versa) in addressing your problems are not favorable. It requires some special knowledge and willingness to make that work. I'm going to guess that with those special tools some of your relationships might've turned out very differently.
Bravo, Ocee. Why not question the whole premise at its base?
But I wouldn't worry about it. Wanting or not, I doubt any of us can attain completeness in any form in an absolute sense. I could restate that to "we don't need other people to be happy" or somesuch. I think the answer - we do - would be the same.
Hey, Dobie. I doubt that working on ourselves ever stops. I'm sure your dating (along with your long relationship with your ex-husband) helped define for you what you wanted to work on. Best of luck - I know we'll all need it!
Well, I imagine if our ancestors - even fairly recent ones - were laid out on the psychiatrist's couch and asked how they feel about romantic love and its meaning in their lives, they would find that line of questioning extremely puzzling, if not disturbing, on a number of different levels.
In part because in the past our roles in life were more clearly defined. There was less questioning, at least by "common folk," about the meaning of their lives, including the nature of romantic love (of course, philosophers who have always questioned everything back to antiquity). Most of us knew our place.
"Not anymore!" (To quote Detective Clouseau, when referring to an erstwhile priceless Steinway grand he'd managed to demolish). And that's basically why we're now in so dire need of therapists.
Dear Snuggie, we really didn't need to know about that here.
But seriously, I disagreed with about everything you wrote. Would you mind reading this article: virtuallylove.com and then letting me know what you think?
Hi, V. Sometimes I think merely being human is more than enough to achieve that state. First, thanks for your very thoughtful and honest post, Venere. It's good to see you again, and you always bring a reflective intelligence to the issue under discussion. I'm also gratified by the level of discourse, and my thanks to everyone for that.
I like your analogy about dealing with one's fear of driving by actually driving. I don't see any way you can "know" driving without actually doing it. Ditto for relationships. Only when you're in them or have had them can you learn about what they require.
I was and continue to be amazed at how many new things about yourself a relationship can bring up. My ex-wife used to say: "Here you're supposedly so self-aware and smart - how could you miss these things about yourself?" I wondered about that, too. But really, there isn't that much of a mystery. We're very complex beings, and life is complex; there's a lot of things we simply don't know about ourselves - nor should be expected to - until we're "baptized in fire," so to speak. How many of us know how we'd respond if we're, for example, dropped out of a plane in a dangerous jungle without food and water? We can only imagine. Our answers will come when we're in the situation.
I think romantic relationships are a lot like that. Dangerous jungles, I mean.
"Wall, it all started when I was a kid. My daddy said I could never perform a 300 lbs. deadlift. So all my life I've been afraid of barbells with lots of weights on them. What should I do?"
Hmmm...well solving all your issues seems to imply that at least you're perfect in that sense. Granted, it doesn't mean you're all-knowing or can play a perfect game of chess or perform a 480 slam-dunk...not perfect in those senses, true.
Or - more words of wisdom from Dr. Ambrose's Relationship Book - if you don't like sloppy eaters, find a neat-eater next time. I amaze myself sometimes.
Must We Solve Most or All of Our Issues Before Entering A Relationship?
Hi, Venus. I think it's natural to prefer being alone if you've had a lot of bad relationships. Being alone can offer more happiness for sure. I sometimes think I was the happiest when I was alone. Certainly less taxing...at least in most obvious ways.From that I could deduce that I'm best off alone, but I haven't made that deduction. What I've decided instead is that whatever has reduced my happiness in relationships is fixable, and that after said fixing my ideal state of happiness would occur within a relationship. But that's not a minor caveat.