Ambrose2007 Forum Posts (8,881)

RE: Is it right for your CS-found-bf/gf to tell you to cancel your account once you started dating?

I think you had your priorities well in order, Bob.

RE: Is it right for your CS-found-bf/gf to tell you to cancel your account once you started dating?

But you did say "so what?" did you not, Polar? That seems to imply that his opinions/feelings aren't that important on this matter, no? If not, what did the "so what" mean - unless you were just joking, of course.

RE: Banning the burka

Yes, of course, I'd forgotten that all believers in Islam are maimers, murderers, and stoners! How could I have mislaid such an obvious truth?

RE: Banning the burka

I mean, it could be considered a crime against God (or at least certain gods - e.g., Dionysus/Bacchus) not to expose the bounty which nature has intended to be viewed?

RE: Banning the burka

Well, I do believe that forcing women not to wear bras...well, at least certain women...is justified, V.

RE: Banning the burka

Then why wouldn't forbidding them by law to wear a veil in the first place have a similar response?

Though I can see protests of such a policy, I would think the fuss would be less from selectively requiring an Islamic lady to remove her burqa or whatever as opposed to forcing them not to wear them in all public occasions. Don't you think so?

RE: Is it right for your CS-found-bf/gf to tell you to cancel your account once you started dating?

RE: Is it right for your CS-found-bf/gf to tell you to cancel your account once you started dating?

So...aren't his feelings/thoughts important to you, P? If not, why are you bothering with him?

RE: Is it right for your CS-found-bf/gf to tell you to cancel your account once you started dating?

RE: Banning the burka

GG has a friend and work-comrade who converted to Islam and now wears Islamic garb (she lives and works mostly in Canada). GG's not comfortable with Islamic attitudes toward women - nor am I!!! - but respects her right to make that choice.

RE: Is it right for your CS-found-bf/gf to tell you to cancel your account once you started dating?

Well, to take an extreme example by way of illustration, consider that if you're married. Would it not be a significant lapse to, at a minimum, place that fact in one's profile?

RE: Banning the burka

Now I'm wearing my own form of burqa! If I wore sunglasses, that might be illegal, of course...

RE: Banning the burka

The only "security issue," methinks, is the insecurity of those who cannot deal with people having different religious beliefs/practices.

And I say that as one who abhors Islamic suppression of women and the whole idiotic "modesty" thing. I'd like to see that eliminated from the face of the Earth, but not by law. Rather, we must persuade people to voluntarily reconsider their silly beliefs. However, they have a right to them.

RE: Banning the burka

I believe she's pulling these "facts" out of her imagination (based on what I'm reading now).

RE: Banning the burka

Right. There oughta be a law!

RE: Banning the burka

Exactly, Jan. Thanks for adding to the "high IQ" mix on this discussion.

RE: Banning the burka

It would be hard, if not impossible, to exceed the stupidity of those claiming there is a "security issue" involved in wearing veils.

RE: Banning the burka

Just completed a quick overview of countries legally mandating burqas/face-coverage. It seems the majority of Islamic countries (that is, countries which the majority are Muslim) don't have such a policy.

RE: Banning the burka

Well, in Iran, they aren't so required, and that's a fairly powerful Islamic "player." I guess I'd have to google this question to see if that's true.

RE: Banning the burka

What "security" issue? What's next, banning large and dark sunglasses?

RE: Is it right for your CS-found-bf/gf to tell you to cancel your account once you started dating?

Oh - just checked your profile. No mention of involvement with anyone. I think that would be appropriate for the early stages of dating, but at some point would become inappropriate - and rather insulting to your man.

RE: Is it right for your CS-found-bf/gf to tell you to cancel your account once you started dating?

If you changed your profile to reflect your being in a relationship, then I can't see a strong objection being made. If your profile suggests you're still single and available (by not mentioning you're in a relationship), then I'd say he's within his rights to be concerned. Would you be?

RE: Banning the burka

It does in fact does *not* seem to be the case, according to your own quote, that Western women (or even non-Western women) are required to cover their face (wear a burqa).

"It is not necessary for a foreign woman, or even Iranian women, to wear the chador, the one-piece cloak traditionally associated with the country.It is however essential for them to cover all parts of the body except the hand, feet and face (from hairline to neckline), and to ensure that the outer layer of clothing gives no hint of the shape of the body.

"Standard dress for Western women in Iran tends to be a full-length skirt, or a long-sleeved shirt and trousers (jeans are okay), worn underneath a loose-fitting, below-the-knees, black or dark-blue coat. A large, plain, dark headscraft should cover the hair and neck (a hat will not do) and thick socks should cover any visible parts of the legs. Apart from plain rings, jewelry and makeup should be discreet to the point of invisibility."

So there are some restrictions, but they don't include covering the face.

Yeecch to their moronic rules, by the way.

RE: Banning the burka

Sorry about the misspelling.

RE: Banning the burka

Well, not all burka designs completely cover the face, correct? Some reveal fair a portion of the face (looking at photos of them online).

If people want to wear masks or whatever, I don't see why, in appropriate circumstances (when their identity reasonably should be ascertained) that they couldn't be compelled to remove them. But I don't see a rationale for a blanket ban, other than asserting cultural dominance.

RE: Banning the burka

If it doesn't, then it's logically inconsistent (with the obvious prejudicial intent).

RE: Banning the burka

I think your "wise guy" hypothesis may stem from failing to read "WESTERN women" in my post. In other words, I wasn't aware that Western women visiting Islamic countries were compelled by law to wear veils. Perhaps in some they are, for all I know. But that's not something I've read or heard.

As far as "laws of the lands" dictating...well, I would think it's too obvious for words to point out that a law and justice may be two separate things. Otherwise, you could refute objections to the Holocaust or Pol Pot's massacre by referencing the "law of the land."

RE: Banning the burka

And telling people what they can wear (by force of law) doesn't "hinder freedom, equality, and human dignity"??

RE: Why men say one thing and do another?

I must be a girly-man, then.

RE: would you like to be a moderator?

You could make it a requirement.