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My agenda in this thread was to allow everybody to talk about who or what God is to them.

Your agenda was to attack who God is to me.

I only started this thread so that my other thread wouldn't be over run by people talking about who God is to them.

Everything else I added to this thread was an after thought, which should be obvious considering my first post was just an invitation, followed up later by a poem about Zeus, with my explanation coming much later.

If I had an agenda when I started this thread, my first three posts would've been in one box.

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I busted you.

But go in peace.

Aloha

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Right, kinda like you did here; when you challenged me about something I already dealt with in the first three posts in this thread.

You came with an agenda, claiming I had divisions in my doctrine over names of God, without actually reading what I had written about them.

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You have just proven that you were so busy judging me for copy and pasting scriptures, that you didn't take the time to read what I typed.

How can I have an intellectual/philosophical discussion about God, with somebody like you?

Right click your okole' back to the third post on this thread, and you'll see that I never said I would prove my beliefs to you or anybody else.

In fact, I said I wouldn't.

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Ok, I went back to my other thread and read what you posted.

You began our conversation by judging me with a stero-typical view of Christians.

And... conceding that you were wrong.

I invited you here to explain who or what God is to you.

You began our conversation here by challenging my assertion that people who claim there is no God, need me or somebody else to bear the burden of proof to make their point.

And you still want me to bear the burden of proof...

Right?

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Because there are many languages.


How many names for water can you think of?

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Yes

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Oops, I accidently left the header off of the last post I made.




NOAH’S NAME—If the story of the Ark and the Flood is to be found among 120 different tribes of earth, should we not expect that Noah’s name would be remembered by some of them also?

Noah’s name is found in the stories and languages of mankind.
That is a striking cultural evidence of the worldwide Flood which, itself, left so many physical evidences upon our globe.




The study is from The Evolution Handbook.

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In Japanese, Maru also means a protective circle or enclosure of refuge.

The first people to inhabit Japan were called Ainu, and mai means "original man" in some Australian aboriginal languages.

Among the North American Indians, manu became minne, meaning "water" for the Sioux; hence our Minneapolis (city of water) and Minnesota (sky-blue water).

Minnetoba (our Manitoba, Canada) meant "water prairie" to the Assiniboines.

In South America, we find the Nahuatl, managuac (our Managua, capital of Nicaragua) which means "surrounded by ponds." The fabled city, Manoa (meaning "Noah’s water"), was supposed to be the capital of the god El Dorado.

A number of important rivers in South America are derived from manu: The Amazon (named after the Manau), the Manu in Peru, and also the Muymanu, Tahuamanu, Pariamanu, Tacuatimanu, etc. In all of these, manu means "river" or "water."

The Egyptians invented their picture writing—hieroglyphics, we call them—soon after the Flood. Their word for water was a wavy line.

When the alphabet was later developed, that symbol became the letter "m," for mayim, the Semitic word for water. It later became the Greek letter Mu, the Roman letter Em, and our Western M.

The Assyrian name for "rain" was zunnu.

The Roman god, Janus (our January), was originally the Estruscan father god of the world and inventor of ships.
This could have easily have been derived from the Hebrew word for "God of Noah," and by the Estruscans, who pronounced this Jah Nu.

The Greek sea-goddess was naiade, which meant "water goddess."

The ancient Norse of the Scandinavians called their ship god, Njord (Niord), who lived at Noatun, the great harbor of the god-ships.
Noa in Norse is related to the Icelandic nor, which meant "ship."

The original Sanskrit word for "ship" was nau, which later passed into our English word, navy, nautical, nausea (sea sickness).

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Here's a couple posts to clarify my position on languages...


Sanskrit (of ancient India) is a basic language, dating back nearly to the time of the Flood. According to the legends of India, Ma-nu was the man who built the boat and then, with seven others, entered it and were saved. Ma is an ancient word for "water." Ma-nu could then mean "Noah of the waters." In Sanscrit, Manu later came to mean "mankind."

The most ancient man in the Germanic tribes was called Mannus.

Mannus was also the name of the Lithuanian Noah.

In the Hebrew, "karat" is the same as "Armenia." The prefix Ar means mountain, so "Armenia" probably means the mountain of Meni.

According to Genesis 8:4, Noah landed on mount Ararat.

The legendary founder of the first Egyptian dynasty was Menes; and Minos was the man who is said to have been the first man of Crete.

The nearby Greeks said that Minos was the son of their god, Zeus, and the ruler of the sea.

The English (as well as all Germanic) words for man comes from the Sanskrit, manu.

The Egyptian god, Nu was the god of waters who sent a flood to destroy mankind. They identified Nu with the rain and the atmosphere.

Summerians taught that Anu was the god of the atmosphere. The rainbow they called "the great bow of Anu."

The Hawaiian word for rainbow is "anuenue."

In ancient Africa, the king in the Congo was called Mani Congo. Later, Mani became the title of respect given to all leading men of the country.

In Japan, manu became maru, a name included in most Japanese ship names.

Chinese mythology taught that Hakudo Maru came down from heaven to teach men how to build ships.

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Nice thought Pedro.



Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.
He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

1 John 4:7-8

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Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.

There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.

Psalms 19:2-3




Thank you stringman,

Aloha ke Akua

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I tried to deal with your question in the first three posts on this thread, by using another God's name that I don't worship.

Please read them.

There's lots of languages, but only one God.

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Did you come to your belief through thinking with reason, or your emotions?

RE: relation ship through the distance. why is so difficult

You seem to have not noticed that some people have had first hand experience with bad long distance relationships.

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Lifeisadream, I never used The Bible to justify harming people, and even though you paraphrased the 10 Commandments, I don't believe you have either.

If they give robots power over our lives, nobody will be safe, no matter what justifications they program into the robots; and if you're only concerned about "Christian robots," I'm worried about you.

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I have 2 threads that I studied for years to post, and want to keep on topic.

I blocked three people for not addressing the topics; and started this thread for their off topic ramblings; because it looked like people who didn't understand what the threads were about still wanted to talk about God.

I invited them to post what they wanted to talk about in this thread.

You can plainly see people not talking about who or what God is to them; and I haven't blocked anybody on this thread.

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This thread is to talk about who or what God is to you, not to talk about what you think of me.

I only speak for myself; and I don't want to debate.


You claimed God is fictitious.

I said, you can't prove it.

You can't prove there is no God, or you would have.

I know your argument depends on my accepting a burden of proof, which you can't bear; and I'm not going to get into a trap designed for a novice preacher.

I don't care about convincing you I'm right.

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Nice scripture Guzman.

Aloha

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Religious beliefs are based on faith, without proof.

Religious beliefs that deny the existence of God are based on faith too, and can't be proven either.

That's why people who claim there is no God, can't bear the burden of proof.

I'm not gonna do another thread on how "atheists" don't exist, and make people who want to prove they do, bear the burden of proof.

I did that here already, years ago. The thread maxed out, with nobody proving "atheists" exist: and people admitted after trying, You can't prove a belief.




I'm really tired of debating.

I might ask you to prove your point if I know you can't...

But that's just to point out that religious beliefs are based on faith, whether you claim to believe in God or not.

I don't plan on pushing the point.

I'm here to share what I learned from years of study; and I'm here to share my religious beliefs; but not argue about them.

I have scriptures, poems and legends from around the globe to back my belief that Jesus is Lord of all; but, I won't claim to prove something that requires faith in what we can't see.





Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Hebrews 11:1

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The fact that you can't prove what you said, and won't even try, is enough for me.


Aloha

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Your welcome to your beliefs...


But I don't take you seriously, nor will I pay homage to an idea that's so common, that I just dealt with it two times in a row: knowing you can't prove what you just said.

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That's a dogmatic superstitious belief; written about by superstitious and dogmatic people, and isn't an original thought at all.

And, you can't prove what you just said is true.

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Amen.

Aloha ke Akua

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Eurohedgehog,

I blocked you on this thread.

You're welcome to post any thoughts you have on God, in in my thread, Who or what is God to you?

Aloha

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I blocked you for being so far off topic; and I started this thread so that the topic wouldn't be so narrow; because I hate blocking people.

But as I look at your post, I notice you only came to mock and accuse me.

If you wanna talk about who or what God is to you, go for it.

I didn't block you for being a heretic.

I blocked you for being an a**hole.

And if you just want to accuse me, or anybody else on this thread, I'll block you again.

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No doubt people will think I've gone beyond The Bible by posting, Aratus, Phaenomena: a poem glorifying Zeus.

They may even think I'm a heathen; but Jesus is Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Jesus is The Lord.



It was God who made us not understand eachother.

Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.
Genesis 11:9



There's lots of languages, but only one God.

I posted Phaenomena; because Paul quoted it in Acts 17:28.

For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.
Acts 17:28

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Wrong.


When the ruler of the feast had tasted the water that was made wine, and knew not whence it was: (but the servants which drew the water knew;) the governor of the feast called the bridegroom,

John 2:9



Please try responding on my new thread, "Let's Talk About God;" and leave this thread to the topic I began.

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PHAENOMENA, TRANSLATED BY G. R. MAIR

From Zeus let us begin; him do we mortals never leave unnamed; full of Zeus are all the streets and all the market-places of men; full is the sea and the havens thereof; always we all have need of Zeus. For we are also his offspring; and he in his kindness unto men giveth favourable signs and wakeneth the people to work, reminding them of livelihood. He tells what time the soil is best for the labour of the ox and for the mattock, and what time the seasons are favourable both for the planting of trees and for casting all manner of seeds. For himself it was who set the signs in heaven, and marked out the constellations, and for the year devised what stars chiefly should give to men right signs of the seasons, to the end that all things might grow unfailingly. Wherefore him do men ever worship first and last. Hail, O Father, mighty marvel, mighty blessing unto men. Hail to thee and to the Elder Race! Hail, ye Muses, right kindly, every one! But for me, too, in answer to my prayer direct all my lay, even as is meet, to tell the stars.

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