RE: A thread of respect for Queen Elizabeth who died this day 8th September 2022

I think you're overstating the burden it is because you like them in the same way that you have no sympathy for a young man crossing the sea on a punctured lilo because you don't like him. But which would you pick? To be king or to cross the sea on a punctured lilo? At any rate I could be a better king than Charles and it would certainly make my life easier.

RE: A thread of respect for Queen Elizabeth who died this day 8th September 2022

One can only hope that Charles steps aside and lets William do it

RE: the Queen is dead

But look at it another way at least she won't be associated with the coming winter and coming horror of the 21st century.

It is sad but what a life to have lived and what an age to have lived in.

RE: the Queen is dead

It's a bit sad but she had a good innings and a very luxurious life, not really a tragedy. And as for Britain we have William and Kate to do a reasonable job of regal behaviour.

RE: Queen Elizabeth health deteriorates.

I don't know if deserves is quite the right word there must be a billion people who do more good deeds for far less reward. The respect for her says more about humanity being a vacuous lickspittle than Liz being an especially good person.

RE: Queen Elizabeth health deteriorates.

Or maybe we should do a state funeral inspired by David Bowie. Make a eulogy out of random words cut from a newspaper and listen to fan(atic)s say how meaningful and significant these words are. I love how Bowie used to take the piss out of his own fans, especially the ones who took him seriously.

RE: Queen Elizabeth health deteriorates.

The people will want her to have one and she paid her own way to be fair. Even if I myself am a bit Bowie and wish people were a bit more grown up we still have to deal with humanity as is. It likes to live vicariously through others rather than come up with their own doings. She's a tourist trap and perhaps shouldn't be, but she is. And what Kate puts on for an evening makes billions for Britain - perhaps it shouldn't, but it does.

RE: School subjects

Now obviously there's the good Samaritan who would help anyone whoever they are but that is not how altruism normally works. Normally it's about playing favourites and capitalism helps to break down that nepotism and cronyism by appreciating that someone is right without having to like them. It's much easier to give a fair shake through capitalism it doesn't require a saint for it to be done.

RE: School subjects

And also the materialism. Making it on merit has much to do with material things - I don't really like that baker but I do like his bread. It requires some objective standard like the best bread rather than who you like or dislike. Now is benevolence going to treat people equally like that? Not normally, no. Often it will decide that certain types are entitled to more help than others. The closest we actually come to equality is the sense of fair play - I don't like him but he's right, his bread is better.

RE: School subjects

It most probably has something to do with the capitalist idea that the greater good is served by self-interest because selfishness is a much harder worker than benevolence - which in most people it is. Capitalism will always come up with the goods where benevolence tries to feed people with good intentions at best and virtue signalling at worst. The problem for benevolence will be if you can't do, teach, and it'll just be words lots and lots of sermons without any improvement to the general welfare. However, the problem with capitalism is that it only works as a system of checks and balances, only works when all the selfish people are relatively equal in power and therefore can only win by being the best. It fails where any one is in a position where you can't lose because that means you win without being the best.

RE: Grow big and strong

I've been wracking my brain trying to understand what we are guilty of so you're going to have to tell me. What have we done to deserve this?

RE: Was your first kiss...

I was about 8 in the whacky warehouse. I suppose I did see it coming we were on and off throughout primary school, but not long after she moved away and it broke my heart. I just had to become a womaniser for many years after that, regretfully I couldn't tell you a thing about the first time I made love.

RE: Do you have breakfast?

If it's not a sausage and egg McMuffin then I'm not interested. What I normally do is neck a smoothie fast enough for my stomach not to notice.

RE: Which would you rather have?

A personal chef. One is an art form and the other is lifting a weight off the ground to put it back down again. And whilst we're at it friends can harass me into going to the gym consistently no need for a paid mithering.

RE: Are you miserable?

The problem is that the first thing depressed people are going to do is people please. To hide your dissatisfaction and hold on to it forever. The depressed usher in a society of morale drubbing because a yes man will not say no it'll just come out in some extreme out of sight way like the gas chambers.

RE: Are you miserable?

Maybe if your idea of stress is your neighbour's larger swimming pool or more attractive wife. If envy was your main problem in life.

Yet I don't think triumph of the will is the answer for a Jew in Germany or having to choose which of your children gets to eat and which you have to bury.

I think happiness is a choice so long as the causes of unhappiness are not present. You have to be lucky and then not feel bad about a neighbour who has been even more lucky. Unlucky won't have misery created by envy - unlucky feels grateful not to be dead - but it will have troubles that the fortunate ones cannot imagine.

RE: Share What You Are Listening To -- Part 99

Dexy's Midnight Runners. Listen to this

RE: What Is the Main Purpose in Life? | Eckhart Tolle

I think this belongs to an easier time where cosmic money energy flows towards you particularly after your parents die. The late last century where by default you couldn't lose, not really, you were always going to be alright and it didn't matter what you do. Essentially it was how the golden agers applaud themselves for the better world bequeathed to them by their parents.

RE: If you only had 1 week to live, would you....?

Something along the lines of this Bowie song

Pushing through the market square
So many mothers sighing (sighing)
News had just come over
We had five years left to cry in (cry in)
News guy wept and told us
Earth was really dying (dying)
Cried so much his face was wet
Then I knew he was not lying (lying)

I heard telephones, opera house, favorite melodies
I saw boys, toys, electric irons and TV's
My brain hurt like a warehouse, it had no room to spare
I had to cram so many things to store everything in there
And all the fat, skinny people
And all the tall, short people
And all the nobody people
And all the somebody people
I never thought I'd need so many people

A girl my age went off her head
Hit some tiny children
If the Black hadn't have pulled her off
I think she would have killed them
A soldier with a broken arm
Fixed his stare to the wheels of a Cadillac
A cop knelt and kissed the feet of a priest
And a queer threw up at the sight of that
I think I saw you in an ice-cream parlor
Drinking milk shakes cold and long
Smiling and waving and looking so fine
Don't think you knew you were in this song
And it was cold and it rained, so I felt like an actor
And I thought of Ma and I wanted to get back there
Your face, your race, the way that you talk
I kiss you, you're beautiful, I want you to walk

We've got five years, stuck on my eyes
Five years, what a surprise
We've got five years, my brain hurts a lot
Five years, that's all we've got

We've got five years, what a surprise
Five years, stuck on my eyes
We've got five years, my brain hurts a lot
Five years, that's all we've got

We've got five years, stuck on my eyes
Five years, what a surprise
We've got five years, my brain hurts a lot
Five years, that's all we've got

We've got five years, what a surprise
We've got five years, stuck on my eyes
We've got five years, my brain hurts a lot
Five years, that's all we've got

Five years
Five years
Five years
Five years

RE: Heaven Sent

I know he was a menace to himself and to society but can we have Jesus? What if he's learned his lesson?

RE: Your day on a plate

A cheese sandwich done in three extremely different way. Cheese on white bread, cheese on brown bread, cheese on a bap.

RE: What's your experience of life so far

The best of times, the worst of times. Life's been really quite dramatic so now I'd quite like a normal one

RE: likes dislikes

Most people are ok

RE: likes dislikes

Not I, said the walrus. If I had my way there wouldn't be any thumbs, they're a disservice to our brains.

RE: music of 1968 rock and roll's greatest year

And in addition to this, and also an expression of this, we had the space race and the moon landing. People were looking up at the stars but that died away into shoulder pads and made in China. The culture had a collective aspiration for a bit and it was a different time back then, more respect for people who can use long words and oftentimes the people who used long words could hit you back. The culture is divorced now you don't get thinking people who are handy and that's why we don't respect the sophisticated, we don't place our hopes in the intelligent.

RE: Share What You Are Listening To -- Part 99

David Bowie. Changes

RE: Happy Birthday Rohaan!!!!

I know it was, love, just teasing.

If you were to ask me my favourite years they would be 18 to 22, and not just because it's 18 to 22, but because it was 2005 to 2008. Not just me, but everybody's life has got worse these last 14 years. Everybody in the west at least. Not just the end of my youth, it was the end of the golden age in society itself.

RE: music of 1968 rock and roll's greatest year

I don't think I would argue against it neither. The early boomers were the best of both worlds, liberals who came from a less than liberal society are the only good liberals because something goes wrong when people never have it so good. The liberals now are not smart, not creative, not anything that a liberal should be because I think affluence makes society more interesting than the people in it. The early boomers were good because they were raised under the discipline of old with the opportunity of the new. But by the 1980s these people were spent and music never really recovered from the 1980s.

RE: Nookie — Limp Bizkit

Inexplicable white boy pain that all sounds like gunshots in a high school to me.

RE: amazing creation of nature : MEN and WOMEN

All the danger of death gets condensed down into the act of child birth - which used to be a very dangerous thing - and it doesn't actually matter if they're pregnant the women are still women. The oldest get-out in the book, so if a madmen bursts in with a knife you have to confront him. That's the deep end of what a man should be, an unrequested fight to the death.

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