English As A Second Language.

To the non-native English speaker, learning English can be a nightmare. Especially when you don’t have a good tutor on standby. Not that my own language is unblemished. We have exceptions to every rule and even rules to those exceptions with their own exceptions.doh

But what boggles my mind the most about English is how to pronounce the words. Why is it that the ough in similar looking words like cough, plough, through, tough, and though are pronounced different in each case. How am I to know how to pronounce it without the help of a native English-speaking person, bearing in mind that half our English teachers, esp in primary school, could not speak proper English.help

As if that is not enough they also invented an animal called phrasal verbs. Things like throw up, throw down, throw in, and throw out. My first reaction will be to believe that throw up and throw down must be opposite actions but vomit and drop are not even related actions.confused

Next, we have make up, make over, and make out. Make up is such an interesting verb with at least 11 different meanings ranging from resolving an argument to fabricating a BS story. wow

If make up describes the action of applying facial cosmetics then surely the process of removing it, must be make down and, by the same logic, if shut up is an instruction to keep quiet then shut down must be permission to talk again. Right?grin

Then I did not even mention talk over, talk into, talk down, talk up, and talk out. Oh, and then we still have take on, take off, take in, take out, take over, take up, and take down. If an airplane takes off from one location, does it take on at the destination? I think not.laugh

The strangeness of it all is that most these phrasal verbs have perfectly acceptable equivalents. Why can’t we rather use them? It is so much less confusing. Oops, was that an oxymoron?professor

I think I should stop it right here because one thing will only lead to the next and we will be here all day. But all this makes me wonder exactly who invented English and what they were smoking at the time.dunno
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Oooohhhhhh Catfoot, I can so relate to that!!

English is not my 2nd but 3rd language. At school, the medium of instruction was Malay, for all the subjects. Only one pathetic English book, 45 mins daily, 5 times weekly. I speak Cantonese and other Chinese dialects at home.

I was lucky I guess coz I got hooked on reading Mills & Boon, and other romantic novels. I could read up to 5 M&B per day! laugh Abandoning all my other schoolbooks, much to the chagrin of my grandma grin

As for the pronunciation, used to get most of the difficult words wrong but I was never afraid, up till now, to ask for help. Watching English movies and listening to English news definitely helped a lot in that department.

You wonder who invented English? laugh My classmates and I used to say out loud that whoever invented Algebra should be shot!! mumbling mumbling mumbling

You have a good day too Catfoot hug bouquet

My day has come to an end and we are having our dinner now. wine
Hi Mimi
You did not like algebra? I loved it! At school I preferred it to languages (no tenses or other BS) and way above the 'learning' subjects like science, geography and history. Mathematics require very little learning; just a good understanding of it.
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Hated Maths while at school and up to today. very mad

Never been good at it. Failed my Maths paper most of the time. The only time I passed was when my Math teacher went for her maternity leave and we got a substitute teacher. She, a fresh graduate, was clueless as to what to set during for the exams. She ended up setting very very easy questions much to my delight! giggle giggle giggle
Oh btw, I'm so so bad at Maths that even if I do the calculation on a calculator, I still get it wrong .... help sigh
I don't know who invented English but as a wild guess I'd go for an Englishman professor but then who are the English, invaded by Vikings, Normans, The Romans to name just a few, then settled by people from across the globe it's hardly surprising the language has a few twists & turns, but then compared to say Spanish it's a doddle help at least in English an item is just an item, you don't have to remember if it's male or female & if asking for only one whether it's a male one or female one (uno\una), and at least the words tend to stay the same regardless of where you're using them, the result of a complex language can best be seen when buying a boxed item in a shop in Europe, the description being listed on the side of the box, in English one or maybe two words, in Spanish you're lucky if it fits on one line doh grin beer
Mimi
It is because of calculators that our children cannot add and subtract any more. I have a calculator somewhere around here but I'm not too sure exactly where it is. I seldom use it and then it mostly is for division.

But back to algebra; what I like about it is the simple set of logic you need to apply to make it work.
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Two great minds think alike catfoot.
So funny I saw your blog as I had decided to post the same rolling on the floor laughing wave
Two great minds think alike catfoot.
So funny I saw your blog as I had decided to post the same rolling on the floor laughing wave
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Now I know why I never liked Algebra.....coz

1) I never think logically

2) I love to complicate even the simplest thing! doh

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Hi Z
An Englishman? Are you sure? I would have gone for an American.laugh

Hmm, I remember how we had to rake our heads with the gender of things in the German class. We had an old (German) man, brought back from pension, for our teacher. Old and deaf but what a teacher!
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Hi BC
I have not had a chance to look at the blogs but will sure look at them a bit later.
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But Mimi
You have just summarized Women in general. I'm glad you said it because if I said it, I would have been chastised.
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Now, that's a good one Catfoot!

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Mimi
I hope all of your sisters see it the same!doh
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Bob.
I am still learning how to speak English....wine
Ah, that's good Angel,
Then perhaps once you have mastered it, you can teach me.laugh
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Hi, Cat: handshake

This topic reminds me how we learnt English from the first beginning at 10 years old at school. No tapes at that time, the book and the teacher was so bad.We had to wrote down Chinese single words to help us pronunciation, no one knew what we were talking in Chinese or in English...laugh

But I was luck,an old lady,a retired teacher who was our next door neighbor, was very good at English. She was my first teacher in English I shoul say. My sister and I went to her home once a week at that period of time, we learnt from ABC again,using the books she ofered us which from aboard. We listened to her and wrote down ,The way of dictation helped me more, From her, I found the joy of learning English, how to write pretty, and what is the best way to learn a language...She passed in USA, if she was alived, more than 100 years old now.She was my good mentor.thumbs up
Bob.
Oh! Sure I will teach you. Of course! There will be a fee involved, my friend..bowing
Hi Phoenix
There are so many inconsistencies in languages, I think it is not possible to learn a language without a native speaker to guide and help you. Especially when it comes to idioms and expressions.
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Angel yes,
As long as you understand that the fee will be payable by the tutor.
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Cat,

I think Pepp has a one track mind....always thinking of ways to get money thru fees!rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing


Math is one of things that I am very good at. I do most all of my calculations in my head! I trained myself to do it many years ago! It has been a real blessing for me. Algebra was very difficult for me. Maybe I didn't want to really learn it.
I know..Spanish is my first language, I learned english while in College getting my degree when I was 23, very hard to get the pronunciation at that age but I managed to get my BS and also learned the language, not too bad accent BTW.professor wink
Hi Single
Although I took English as a subject (compulsory), I could not speak much of it when I finished school. I married an English speaking woman and only then I mastered the language.
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It's interesting you would post this, Cat. I just had a lady who does cleaning for me ask me to teach her English. As I have never taught a language before, I wouldn't know how to begin. Also, there are many classes here that teach English, I suspect she just doesn't want to pay (although they are very low in cost) or doesn't want to take the time.

The difficulties she had with English were expressed just as you described: the problems in pronunciation. etc.

Although I would like to help her, how would I teach her a complete language? It would be fine if she just wanted to ask me about certain words, but to teach her the language is a bit more of an undertaking.

Any suggestions? Thanks so much. - C teddybear
Gjimme & Bob.
scold There is nothing in this world/planet, that is free. very happyBut! Love.
roll eyes And it ain't/ isn't free either!
Cute Jim
The question was easy enough but the answer was a bit more difficult.laugh

I surely hope there was not a conductor in the lab.doh
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Hi Calmheart
Maybe you should do it the way my ex-wife taught me. We spoke only English to each other and from there I could ask and she would correct me when I went wrong. professor
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Right Angel,
I was judt going to tell you. Love is one of the most expensive commodities on the planet.doh
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Bob.
heart1 I know! Right.
Hi kitten cartwheel people always steal words out of my mouth, thinking cuz im an expert inany language barriers confused

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Hiya Cat. What an interesting subject!thumbs up

I do love languages and I always find English a fascinating language...
As they say, English maybe easy to learn, but difficult to master.professor

I was lucky to be brought up speaking two languages simultaneously - French, being my mother tongue, but also English as I was brought up with some American kids living in the neighbourhood.

A little joke for you: What do you call a person who speaks 2 languages?... bilingual, right?
What about one who speaks more than two languages?... "poliglote"?
Now, what about one who only speaks ONE language?...confused
American!applause laugh


Do you need to practise your English? ... easy! Come to Spain and I´ll give you some free lessons and also a guided tour - all under the sun!dancing cool
Oh, I forgot, I could also teach you all the phrasal verbs you want to know - included the bad ones!comfort laugh
I'm interested in languages sort of as a hobby. I learned English and French at the same time. The approach was grammar first and then build on that. In hindsight, I think that's the best approach to learn a language correctly, but also the most painful laugh English actually arose from German ages ago. If you travel to the north of Germany, you can hear how the language changes the further you go. Ditto with Dutch which still very much resembles the northern dialect. That dialect (platt) might as well be a separate language because I certainly don't understand a word when they speak it laugh
Hi Minerva,
I don't really have a problem with English; it is the people I talk to that have problems to understand me.laugh

Ok, just kidding, i wrote the blog very much tongue in the cheek but your invitation to free lessons and a guided tour sounds irresistible. I better not dwell on it.rolling on the floor laughing
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Nidifugous, I keep that to myself if you visit the UK if I were you hole laugh

The European Commission

The European Commission has announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the EU, rather than German, which was the other contender. Her Majesty's Government conceded that English spelling had room for improvement and has therefore accepted a five-year phasing in of "Euro-English".

In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c". Sertainly, this will make sivil servants jump for joy. The hard "c" will be dropped in favour of the "k", Which should klear up some konfusion and allow one key less on keyboards.

There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced with "f", making words like "fotograf" 20% shorter.

In the third year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will enkourage the removal of double letters which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of the silent "e" is disgrasful.

By the fourth yer, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" with "z" and "w" with "v".

During ze fifz yer, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou" and similar changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations of leters. After zis fifz yer, ve vil hav a reli sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubls or difikultis and everivun vil find it ezi to understand ech ozer. ZE DREM VIL FINALI COM TRU!

Herr Schmidt

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Hi Nidi
I took German as a 3rd language and when I left school my German was better than my English.laugh

Not that I spoke German well, my English was just very poor. I found German less strange on the tongue.

So you speak Dutch. Then you will understand Afrikaans. Dutch & Flemish speaking people can understand me pretty well though I battle a bit to understand them.confused
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Look at it this way Cat, by coming to Spain you could kill 2 birds with one stone - or even 3!
Practise your English, learn some French and also Spanish, have a guided tour of this lovely area I live in, also meet a few Señoritas...
Look, more than 3 birds to kill in one go!hug banana yay
Hi Flutterby
Sorry Girl, somehow I missed your comment. No malice intended but then I guess you know that.blushing
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Zman. I like that!thumbs up

Ze last one, in zi fif year I kan hardli understand rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
Zman!!!
For a moment you had me stumped.rolling on the floor laughing

This is really funny. I love it.applause cheering
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