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Oct 15, 2008 4:17 PM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
StressFree: You do realize that liberals have a higher education on the average than any other group right?


Can you give me some valid statistics on that?
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Oct 15, 2008 4:17 PM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
Indyfella: I saw the Kennedy movie. The logic he used about the bullet entry was excessively flawed. There was a documentary on it. Stone is a tad nutty, (JMO) But, he knows how to market a movie....


Anyways, I thought 9-11 was one of his best movies ever. It really depicted the good will of Americans.
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Oct 15, 2008 4:18 PM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
StressFree: I think Stone does get pretty close to the flame if you will. Supposedly, his movie is not intended to make W. look like a bad guy.

Shall we reopen the Kennedy case?
You wouldn't like what you would be hearing,but at least you'll see the Openinf of the still sealed Documents of that Assassination,as well as the other two.wave
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Oct 15, 2008 4:20 PM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
StressFree: You do realize that liberals have a higher education on the average than any other group right?




I have no doubt.... Michael Moore, Rosie O'Donnell, Obama thread starters, yep....you're right. How could I disagree.


frustrated
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Oct 15, 2008 4:22 PM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
WhatUwish4: Can you give me some valid statistics on that?




He's citing a study done by ACORN. rolling on the floor laughing
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Oct 15, 2008 4:22 PM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
WhatUwish4: Can you give me some valid statistics on that?


Here you go beautiful....

http://www.twoorthree.net/2008/09/how-conservativ.html

http://people-press.org/report/242/beyond-red-vs-blue
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Oct 15, 2008 4:23 PM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts



You forgot: The View as a source frustrated
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Oct 15, 2008 4:27 PM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts


From your source...

45% of staunch conservatives (Enterprisers) have a higher education degree, while while 49% of staunch liberals do. This gives liberals a 4% advantage over conservatives. Libs also have an increased edge when considering that they have a 12 point advantage when only Graduate work is considered.
So, this is where libs get the idea that they are more educated than conservatives, and they use this to say "more education correlates with better thinking, and therfore, the lower education of conservatives correlates to stupidity poorer thinking."

However, what is really interesting is that, though the extreme libs have more education than the 'Enterprisers,' these groups make about the same amount of money. Translation? While liberals may be more educated, in at least fiscal ways, they are not any more effective. This may indicate that Enterprisers have a bias for practical action rather than being theoretical and topheavy in education. So at least by one measure, being more educated at that level may reflect nothing on intelligence.

rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing

Stress, thank you for the laugh!

I'll read it all later but have to step out for awhile. I think it's going to be great fun...!
laugh laugh
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Oct 15, 2008 4:38 PM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Finally!!!!!!!!!!

Ladies and gentlemen............

ONE celebrity for McCain...........

And such a support in deed!!!!!



Oh my!!!!!!! this Girl really Rocks yay
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Oct 15, 2008 4:50 PM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
There is a lot good left in Powell any way and of course he will endorse Obama after the debate later tonight:

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Oct 15, 2008 4:52 PM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
Sparky55
Sparky55Sparky55Somewhere, Afghanistan48 Threads 1 Polls 2,678 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Finally!!!!!!!!!!

Ladies and gentlemen............

ONE celebrity for McCain...........

And such a support in deed!!!!!



Oh my!!!!!!! this Girl really Rocks


Hey, if you think having a celebrity support a politician equates to qualification then I am going to have to thank God you wont be voting come Nov 4th.. laugh
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Oct 15, 2008 4:54 PM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
Sparky55: Hey, if you think having a celebrity support a politician equates to qualification then I am going to have to thank God you wont be voting come Nov 4th..
He's probably not voting in Denmark eitherrolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Oct 15, 2008 4:59 PM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Why does this McCain only thinks about millioneires and billionairs and why his Palin thinks the untied states is only populated by rich white christian families and no body else?

Where are these folks really from? Planet Oz?

Think progress, today:

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As part of his new economic outline - The Pension and Family Security Plan - Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) has proposed cutting the tax rate on long term capital gains and dividends to 7.5 percent in 2009 and 2010. The current tax rate for these capital gains is 15 percent.

Today, the non-partisan Tax Policy Center (TPC) released an analysis showing who would benefit from this cut. Like the rest of McCain’s tax cuts, this one overwhelmingly aids the wealthy, with two-thirds of the benefit going to those making over $1 million:

In 2009, under a plan that lowers taxes on both gains and dividends, those making $1 million or more would get two-thirds of the benefit, and an average tax cut of more than $72,000. Those making less than $50,000 would get, on average, nothing.

As the TPC pointed out, “75% of the benefit of low taxes on capital gains and dividends already go to those making $600,000 or more. Half goes to those making $2.8 million or more.”

In fact, as the Wonk Room noted when McCain first toyed with including this provision in his economic plan, under the current 15 percent rate, 93.9 percent of the benefits go to the top 5 percent of taxpayers, and 84.8 percent to the top 1 percent. The other 80 percent of taxpayers see only 1.7 percent of the benefits of today’s rate.

The McCain campaign claims that the cut will “strengthen incentives to save, invest, and restore the liquidity of markets.” But given the current economic situation - one in which “people do not have an awful lot of capital gains” - this measure will do nothing to stimulate the economy.

Furthermore, The Street noted that McCain’s cut “might have unintended consequences,” like encouraging investors “to make one-time sales to capture lower capital gains and increased tax write-offs,” which “would facilitate capital flight.”

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How many americans Really concidering them selves being that close to a guy like McCain and a woman like Palin, other than the Race fact only?????
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Oct 15, 2008 5:01 PM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
WhatUwish4: From your source...

45% of staunch conservatives (Enterprisers) have a higher education degree, while while 49% of staunch liberals do. This gives liberals a 4% advantage over conservatives. Libs also have an increased edge when considering that they have a 12 point advantage when only Graduate work is considered.
So, this is where libs get the idea that they are more educated than conservatives, and they use this to say "more education correlates with better thinking, and therfore, the lower education of conservatives correlates to stupidity poorer thinking."

However, what is really interesting is that, though the extreme libs have more education than the 'Enterprisers,' these groups make about the same amount of money. Translation? While liberals may be more educated, in at least fiscal ways, they are not any more effective. This may indicate that Enterprisers have a bias for practical action rather than being theoretical and topheavy in education. So at least by one measure, being more educated at that level may reflect nothing on intelligence.



Stress, thank you for the laugh!

I'll read it all later but have to step out for awhile. I think it's going to be great fun...!


Yeahlaugh Have fun with it. There's all kinds of ammo in there for everyone.
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Oct 15, 2008 5:03 PM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Why does this McCain only thinks about millioneires and billionairs and why his Palin thinks the untied states is only populated by rich white christian families and no body else?

Where are these folks really from? Planet Oz?

Think progress, today:

______________________________________

As part of his new economic outline - The Pension and Family Security Plan - Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) has proposed cutting the tax rate on long term capital gains and dividends to 7.5 percent in 2009 and 2010. The current tax rate for these capital gains is 15 percent.

Today, the non-partisan Tax Policy Center (TPC) released an analysis showing who would benefit from this cut. Like the rest of McCain’s tax cuts, this one overwhelmingly aids the wealthy, with two-thirds of the benefit going to those making over $1 million:

In 2009, under a plan that lowers taxes on both gains and dividends, those making $1 million or more would get two-thirds of the benefit, and an average tax cut of more than $72,000. Those making less than $50,000 would get, on average, nothing.

As the TPC pointed out, “75% of the benefit of low taxes on capital gains and dividends already go to those making $600,000 or more. Half goes to those making $2.8 million or more.”

In fact, as the Wonk Room noted when McCain first toyed with including this provision in his economic plan, under the current 15 percent rate, 93.9 percent of the benefits go to the top 5 percent of taxpayers, and 84.8 percent to the top 1 percent. The other 80 percent of taxpayers see only 1.7 percent of the benefits of today’s rate.

The McCain campaign claims that the cut will “strengthen incentives to save, invest, and restore the liquidity of markets.” But given the current economic situation - one in which “people do not have an awful lot of capital gains” - this measure will do nothing to stimulate the economy.

Furthermore, The Street noted that McCain’s cut “might have unintended consequences,” like encouraging investors “to make one-time sales to capture lower capital gains and increased tax write-offs,” which “would facilitate capital flight.”

_______________________________How many americans Really concidering them selves being that close to a guy like McCain and a woman like Palin, other than the Race fact only?????


I suppose cause they are in those brackets...they think everyone must be....America has no poor or middles class apparently...they're all rich...hence no need to bother with developing any strategies etc to so with them.....roll eyes uh oh dunno doh
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Oct 15, 2008 5:03 PM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude:
ONE celebrity for McCain...........



Oh my!!!!!!! this Girl really Rocks


Now that was funny....
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Oct 15, 2008 5:04 PM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: I suppose cause they are in those brackets...they think everyone must be....America has no poor or middles class apparently...they're all rich...hence no need to bother with developing any strategies etc to so with them.....


*to do with them...roll eyes


( I am under the influence of Nyquil and therefore can't be held responsible for the amount of type O's in my posts)



laugh
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Oct 15, 2008 5:05 PM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
greenville52
greenville52greenville52Lebanon, Pennsylvania USA2 Posts
Obama or McCain isn't worth being President. Bush isn't either. No good candidates this year. I think that Monica L. should run for Pres.
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Oct 15, 2008 5:11 PM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
greenville52: Obama or McCain isn't worth being President. Bush isn't either. No good candidates this year. I think that Monica L. should run for Pres.



STANLEY & OLLIE IN'08professor
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Oct 15, 2008 5:33 PM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Watch this site very caefully and then stop whining about Americans are more concern about rumors about Ayers and Obama are close friends or not or about his middle name or about his name sounds like Osama or not!

http://www.1000voicesarchive.org/video/41/Karen-Dove-Austin-TX


America is almost one of the ONLY industrial nations of the whole planet with no real health insurence people afford....... A nation with a heath care which is based on the amount of money you have and on Chairty and on ability to beg this one and that one and then "maybe" receiving treatment or you can just DIE, with a health system based on "Ration care" for the less fortuned, where those with no insurence are sent home ..... all this glory and money and tecnology and all these wonderful docs over there and still the whole thing is nothing than a huge money machine where human beings are left to DIE if cant afford the enourmeus cost of the hospitals... and still 300 million dollers a day has been wasted in the Stupied war in Iraq for Six years!

Karen&Ronnie Dove are Real americans! they have worked hard during their entire lives and still no possibility to afford a health insurence and her story is just one amoung millions........ 47 million ameircans cant afford any health insurence and still these horrible dark minded Bushney,s trying to blame them selves about the life situation they are in to and still they are called communists antiamericans if they ask too much!

It is really about time the next president doing some thing serious about the heath insurence situation...... the rest of us who are so lucky enjoying Free heath care for any body living in this country know perfectly what a life with out it can mean!

I dont give a Damn about the doctor must make a 10000 dollers a mounth or not........ Even the same doctor can get Sick and cant afford the bills!

Human beings........... must becoming real equal when they are dammaged by diseases because no body is immune agaisnt that and any body,s life can get seriously destroyed if the bills keep coming and runining lives just because of a part of natur and that is being sick!

McCain is going to Tax health insurence for the frist time in history , and this man have no idea about being poor and needing treatment.... his own huge bills regardinghis Several diseases is paid by the millions he and his Wife are making on Alcohol adiction of americans and on Real state speculations and on Tax cheats..... This old war monger Dude knows not a damn thing about the struggle millions of americans facing every single day and he has chosen totlay to forget any misoury he have experienced by neglecting the past( one of the many reaosns this man really needs intensive therapy by the way wink )

United states of America has been Runned Stupiedly in the last Eight Years..... as Donal Trump told just a minute ago on CNN...... Ltets hope that americans are sick and tired of Stupidity and putting an intelligent fellow on job this time .... Obama is able to drag America out of this Mess!!!!!!!!

And these Bushney,s Bashing on Michael Moore because the man dares to talk about or making a documentary about this very disgusting problem millions of americans are facing every single day! scold

Do some thing!!!!!!!!!
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