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Jan 4, 2009 4:17 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
SophieDarin
SophieDarinSophieDarinParis, Ile-de-France France89 Posts
nora83: please note that hamas is an elected party in palestine , and thats how they are ruling now. palestnians elected them


Hmmmm... ''elected'')))
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Jan 4, 2009 4:19 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
nora83
nora83nora83Amman, Jordan3 Threads 113 Posts
SophieDarin: De nada, pero non estoy burlando de nadie.


le respeto mucho seniorita ,, gracias , y disculpe otra vez
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Jan 4, 2009 4:21 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
Antjo39: It is true, but now do not forget the limitations of that. GGo beyond the limit of something like CS or give hint that you are heared by more and more people, and that your opinion is making an effect, and then you will have the gunmen or the magistrates on your hunting. Am I wrong?

In Iran or in any of those countries where a religion has been turned into an agressive ideology they, of course, would react more rapidly.

However, where can be found the origin of the transformation of religons into that kind of ideology. Then we will be traced back to Western Civilization. Tell me if I am wrong.


It is the time of change.

It is pointless of you to keep harping on the historical 'truths' that have created a super 'them' that controls our actions and minds.

Remove that issue from your arguments with me.

It is the now, and the days to come that matter.

Change is possible and it is here, in the now.

Anarchic idealism and analysis is non real. It cannot exist. So stop making an issue of it.
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Jan 4, 2009 4:22 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
littlewolf: Since I donot see this mentioned,Am I the only one who saw the interview with the son of the man who founded Hamas?It was on last night and he described in detail what the Koran is and how it compares to the Bible.He also has come to America after converting to a christian.I wont mention his name or his fathers,because they have hits out on his life.He said the one thing he read in the bible that changed him was the scripture,Love your enemies,where the koran says whoever leaves the Islam faith or is an unbeliever is to be killed.He is a palastian.



Here the site of the interview.


Son of Hamas Founder Gives True Glimpse Into Terror Organization



And neutral people should not forget the origins of Hamas as a son of Israel against Fatah.....
beer
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Jan 4, 2009 4:25 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
Antjo39: Here the site of the interview.Son of Hamas Founder Gives True Glimpse Into Terror Organization



And neutral people should not forget the origins of Hamas as a son of Israel against Fatah.....


pure idealistic conjecture.
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Jan 4, 2009 4:27 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
nora83
nora83nora83Amman, Jordan3 Threads 113 Posts
Jan1305: Si, entiendo bien, pero calmate un pocito.

Y cuidate.
seguramente como no
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Jan 4, 2009 4:27 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
simo12450
simo12450simo12450cork, Cork Ireland5 Threads 29 Posts
do you have faithful sources?
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Jan 4, 2009 4:27 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
gozoman2: pure idealistic conjecture.


Well religion isn't gonna solve this problem...I don't care what religion it is...it will only make things worse...wave wink roll eyes hug heart beating hug
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Jan 4, 2009 4:29 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
princemuncher
princemuncherprincemunchernorthfield, Ohio USA12 Threads 378 Posts
nora83: muchas gracias por su respuesta ,

pero es que la seniorita esta burlando de las personas que se matan , por los israelis , los ninos , los hombres viejos , me da pena mucho , por favour , intente a aprender que no sda pena mucho , nuestra gente se estan matando , mas que 500 perosnas in 8 dias , y ella esta burlando , disculpe si estoy hablando de una manera que le melosta , de verdad , dicuple por favour , le respeto mucho ,,


For those who follow the rules and post english:

Thank you for you reply...but this is the seniorita mocking the people who are killed by Israeli children, old men, I feel sorry for a lot, please try to learn that no penalty sda much, our people are being killed, more than 500 perosnas in 8 days, and she is mocking,and she is mocking, sorry if I'm talking about a way to melosta, really, dicuple please, I respect him a lot,



Just making sure we're all on the same page
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Jan 4, 2009 4:30 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
Hugz_n_Kissez: Well religion isn't gonna solve this problem...I don't care what religion it is...it will only make things worse...


yep....so is looking under the floor to find something to prove that martians have landed in Alaskja a hundred years ago it seems.....

plots and conjecture are being thrown in to the pot to prove the pre-planned agenda against the Palestinian nation it seems....
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Jan 4, 2009 4:33 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
gozoman2: It is the time of change.

It is pointless of you to keep harping on the historical 'truths' that have created a super 'them' that controls our actions and minds.

Remove that issue from your arguments with me.

It is the now, and the days to come that matter.

Change is possible and it is here, in the now.

Anarchic idealism and analysis is non real. It cannot exist. So stop making an issue of it.

Super them? truth? It needs a correction.
I have something very concrete to point out if I wanted to talk about manipulation. And you might not have understood my argumentation because that "super them" is not the core of that at all.
It is true though that we speak with different languages. That is not new.

Well, maybe because of the presence of the "super them" you have not answered my questions. I wish you did.

As for the idealism that is not real I agree. And if that is an issue somehow it is because we are just talkers... as I said before somehow just a bunch of phonies that are not there dying or suffering.
Probably my excess of idealism (which is a personal disease that I know well) is stressed by the fact that we are just arguing. I appreciate the value of the present if you think I only harp on in the past, but the value of understanding the past is to see the present through the darkness we live in (thanks to the super them or any concrete name I come up with)

If you pretend to have grasped a better course of action through the "change" doctrine, time will tell (as I said before) and of course I would like to see that.

Personally I think if the course of action is inspired in Mister Obama then I think it is hopeless. Time will give me the chance to see how wrong I have been about that. Hope totally wrong.
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Jan 4, 2009 4:34 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
princemuncher
princemuncherprincemunchernorthfield, Ohio USA12 Threads 378 Posts
For future referrence. iGoogle has a translator. Just cut and paste the post. click on "translate.

It's got about 35 languages on it.

Just for occaions such as this.....



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Jan 4, 2009 4:35 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
gozoman2: yep....so is looking under the floor to find something to prove that martians have landed in Alaskja a hundred years ago it seems.....

plots and conjecture are being thrown in to the pot to prove the pre-planned agenda against the Palestinian nation it seems....


It's time to stop proving...and start working toward a solution...all the proof in the world isn't gonna this dispute...wave wink thumbs up hug kiss hug
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Jan 4, 2009 4:35 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
princemuncher
princemuncherprincemunchernorthfield, Ohio USA12 Threads 378 Posts
Jan1305: Well the translation is quite innocent as everybody can see, and was posted for me, so no bad intention there, wouldn´t you agree?

Incidentally, a lot of the stuff here posted in English is unintelligable if you don´t belong to the club.

No offence intended.


Well, the rules are the rules, no matter who the post is written to.

Unless it's translated into english, who knows what it says?

Wanna post in something other than english?, take it to email.

No big deal.
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Jan 4, 2009 4:35 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: It's time to stop proving...and start working toward a solution...all the proof in the world isn't gonna this dispute...



*isn't gonna resolve this dispute...thumbs up
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Jan 4, 2009 4:37 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
princemuncher
princemuncherprincemunchernorthfield, Ohio USA12 Threads 378 Posts
Not trying to start any trouble, just following this thread out of interest.

I don't know much about the situation.
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Jan 4, 2009 4:37 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
LILLYLADY: Please do tell us all just which Arab countries and just how much $ is being funded for Hezbollah, Hamas and other organizations that are hellbent on purchasing and firing rockets into Israel(thus breaking truces their own leaders sign) directly into Israeli civilian areas and causing Israeli people to get injured and have to go underground in bomb shelters 6-8x day.
Seems odd that they like to fire at the innocent civilians in Israel who are not armed instead of firing at the military. It is much easier to kill and maim Israel's civilians. And Israel should not defend it's borders or it's people when they are attacked?
Seems like when the shoe is on the other foot, they don't like it. It's like, "I can shoot into your civilian areas and try to kill your innocent women, children and babies... but don't you dare shoot into mine or I'll show the world what you're doing."
So basically, it doesn't end till it ends at some point and it will. But the cost in bloodshed on both sides will be enormous. One life to lose on either side is already too much now!!


It is in the interest of Hamas to get the cameras of the world focused on civilian casualties caused by an expected Israeli retaliation attack to their rocket launches.

The rockets themselves are so useless and inaccurate, that I am sure everyone realises that the damage done equals to nothing.

They weren't being shot to cause damage. They were used to make Israel attack Gaza such that they could show the entire world how they are being murdered by Israel.
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Jan 4, 2009 4:37 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
littlewolf
littlewolflittlewolfnunya, Oklahoma USA10 Threads 526 Posts
I dont care if everyone sees this or not,It is about religion.Not all muslims act on the violent acts the Koran speaks of.But there are several sects, like Hamas,Hezbolla,Sunni,ect, who do act on them.The man interviewed said that he finally saw that the terrioists took whatever passage out of the Koran that suited their cause at the time and ignored the rest.So religion is exactly what is firing the terrioists.dunno
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Jan 4, 2009 4:39 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
SophieDarin
SophieDarinSophieDarinParis, Ile-de-France France89 Posts
nora83: le respeto mucho seniorita ,, gracias , y disculpe otra vez


De nada nora,nostros estamos acqui para apprender y enterase de cosas
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Jan 4, 2009 4:39 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
Hugz_n_Kissez: It's time to stop proving...and start working toward a solution...all the proof in the world isn't gonna this dispute...


Exactly....I have gone hoarse trying to make that understood here...

peace
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