Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share ! (814)
nora83Amman, Jordan3 Threads 113 Postsits the sixth day , 4oo are killed and over 2000 are injuired, no food , no water , no Petrol , no medication, no electricity, and Israel refuses to stop the raids that are killing innocent people in Gaza , among the international silence . wat do you think ?
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This is Isreal. they did build thier state at bodies of Arabs
nora83: its the sixth day , 4oo are killed and over 2000 are injuired, no food , no water , no Petrol , no medication, no electricity, and Israel refuses to stop the raids that are killing innocent people in Gaza , among the international silence . wat do you think ?
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If Hamas did not have such a volatile presence in Gaza then likely the repercussions from their attacks would fall elsewhere. It is sad for the true innocents but no less sad than it is for the local Israelis who must face this every day for the past 60 years.
When you continuously poke a bear is it any wonder really when it turns and bites your hand off?
When you continuously poke a bear is it any wonder really when it turns and bites your hand off?
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BarrenPneuma: If Hamas did not have such a volatile presence in Gaza then likely the repercussions from their attacks would fall elsewhere. It is sad for the true innocents but no less sad than it is for the local Israelis who must face this every day for the past 60 years.
When you continuously poke a bear is it any wonder really when it turns and bites your hand off?
When you continuously poke a bear is it any wonder really when it turns and bites your hand off?
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It is retaliation not instigation. Israel has enough to worry about without intentionally drawing the fire of the world every day. But they have been under assault for the entirety of their existence as a nation from those who wish nothing more than to see them erradicated.
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i do really respect your opinion sir , but its just because you are seeingthe news from only one side of the story , this land is for Palestinian , not Israelis , plus , Hamas are only defending their people , while Israel is the one who keeps on killing kids while going to schools , pregnant women , its Palestinians who has been suffering since 1948 , bcz of the terrorism of Israel , not israel. watch our Tv Sir, not only your , we know how they filter the new for you to keep you simpathy .
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BarrenPneuma: No but removing the terrorist element from the local region would direct the attacks elsewhere. But the Hamas cowards are too proficient at hiding their acts amongst the poor sufferers to involve the pity of the world for their cause.
Terrorists? Remember the last Lebanon war in 2006 and the way the Israelis bombed the Lebanese towns just trying to create terror in the population so that they help expulsed the guerrilla fighters?
And if the terrorist nature of the Israeli state is not clear (and terrorism is that kind of destructive and intimidating method a state or human group uses to get to its own goal, I say this just in case...) we could come back to the beginning of this sad story, do you want to recall how many people were assasinated and terrorised by the zionist? I am not only counting Arabas but Westerners.
Anyway, too boring to recall all that, as boring as the phoniness of those that "worry" about the cost of innocent human lives.
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nora83: i do really respect your opinion sir , but its just because you are seeingthe news from only one side of the story , this land is for Palestinian , not Israelis , plus , Hamas are only defending their people , while Israel is the one who keeps on killing kids while going to schools , pregnant women , its Palestinians who has been suffering since 1948 , bcz of the terrorism of Israel , not israel. watch our Tv Sir, not only your , we know how they filter the new for you to keep you simpathy .
y para la personal que vive in Murcia , nosotros vivimos en Espana mas que 800 anos , sin matar personas y hacer lo que Israel estan haciendo ahora , por favor , miralo de nuestra parte tambien .
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y para la personal que vive in Murcia , nosotros vivimos en Espana mas que 800 anos , sin matar personas y hacer lo que Israel estan haciendo ahora , por favor , miralo de nuestra parte tambien .
thank you
There is no right to any land in reality. It is akin to two fleas arguing over who owns the dog.
The Palestinians could likely have found peace if not for the political and ethnic cleansing required by the nations surrounding Israel.
History is not written only in the West and I do not use the television as an appropriate view of current events.
What about the Israeli children who have to face countless threats from mortars and suicide bombers? Oh yes I forgot they are inhuman in those lands, no more than rabid dogs that need to be exterminated by the loving people who are just trying to live in peace.
Hamas are involved in global issues of terror and not only in Gaza, so this speaks very negatively upon their virtuous goals.
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Antjo39: Terrorists? Remember the last Lebanon war in 2006 and the way the Israelis bombed the Lebanese towns just trying to create terror in the population so that they help expulsed the guerrilla fighters?
And if the terrorist nature of the Israeli state is not clear (and terrorism is that kind of destructive and intimidating method a state or human group uses to get to its own goal, I say this just in case...) we could come back to the beginning of this sad story, do you want to recall how many people were assasinated and terrorised by the zionist? I am not only counting Arabas but Westerners.
Anyway, too boring to recall all that, as boring as the phoniness of those that "worry" about the cost of innocent human lives.
And if the terrorist nature of the Israeli state is not clear (and terrorism is that kind of destructive and intimidating method a state or human group uses to get to its own goal, I say this just in case...) we could come back to the beginning of this sad story, do you want to recall how many people were assasinated and terrorised by the zionist? I am not only counting Arabas but Westerners.
Anyway, too boring to recall all that, as boring as the phoniness of those that "worry" about the cost of innocent human lives.
There have been far too many wrongs done on both sides and the cost to human life likewise on both sides has been far too high. But the only solution of any value to any of the Hamas or their supporters is the complete erradication of an entire nation. This is not justifiable. If you neighbour constantly did to you what the nations surrounding Israel have done for 60 years you may find your good will slightly at odds with your reactions to these blatant terrorist attacks. Especially when it is children who are being buried by their parents. Again there is no right in any of the innocent deaths but the removal of Hamas and all murderous sects is going to happen one way or another. They will continue to hide amongst the locals and use them as human shields to gain some sort of attention to their 'plight.'
How many times have the Israelis settled on a cease fire only to have the entire mess begin again?
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BarrenPneuma: There is no right to any land in reality. It is akin to two fleas arguing over who owns the dog.
The Palestinians could likely have found peace if not for the political and ethnic cleansing required by the nations surrounding Israel.
History is not written only in the West and I do not use the television as an appropriate view of current events.
What about the Israeli children who have to face countless threats from mortars and suicide bombers? Oh yes I forgot they are inhuman in those lands, no more than rabid dogs that need to be exterminated by the loving people who are just trying to live in peace.
Hamas are involved in global issues of terror and not only in Gaza, so this speaks very negatively upon their virtuous goals.
The Palestinians could likely have found peace if not for the political and ethnic cleansing required by the nations surrounding Israel.
History is not written only in the West and I do not use the television as an appropriate view of current events.
What about the Israeli children who have to face countless threats from mortars and suicide bombers? Oh yes I forgot they are inhuman in those lands, no more than rabid dogs that need to be exterminated by the loving people who are just trying to live in peace.
Hamas are involved in global issues of terror and not only in Gaza, so this speaks very negatively upon their virtuous goals.
- "There is no right to any land in reality" Wow! how profound! let´s go and tell that to any state head. Unrealistic, what a way to defend a point of view!
- "The Palestinians could likely have found peace"
Oh yes, they could. Since 1948 they experienced massacres in order to get them off the land they had lived for years. Yes, peace for them was to move silently. maybe migrate to Europe, CANADA etc, or just watch their bulldozed house occupied by an Israeli family while they go and leave in the gutter. Oh yes they could have lived in peace long ago. Actually many of the massacred have been living in peace for quite a while.
- "What about the Israeli children who have to face countless threats from mortars and suicide bombers?" I bet the Israelis are much more hardened than any coward can imagine. I do find most of the terrorist retaliation from the Arabs bad for themselves and for the Palestinian cause, but I am not there to judge properly. And I do not believe phonies that use as an argument "the poor children facing terror". haha.. phonies are too busy doing their things and they would have filled their trousers long ago if they were there.
- "Hamas are involved in global issues of terror "
Really? Ok they retaliate with the same methods used by Israel but apart from that what? I am waiting for your proof. Probably because you do not use TV to get enlightened I wonder what kind of miracolous thing you use to repeat what Bush and the Israeli Defense Minister always say.
Anyway I have not bought your "spiritual" facade, neither your profound views about the problem under treatment. No more posts I do not want to start a war and meet the end experienced by BNatural, right by your hand.
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BarrenPneuma: There have been far too many wrongs done on both sides and the cost to human life likewise on both sides has been far too high. But the only solution of any value to any of the Hamas or their supporters is the complete erradication of an entire nation. This is not justifiable. If you neighbour constantly did to you what the nations surrounding Israel have done for 60 years you may find your good will slightly at odds with your reactions to these blatant terrorist attacks. Especially when it is children who are being buried by their parents. Again there is no right in any of the innocent deaths but the removal of Hamas and all murderous sects is going to happen one way or another. They will continue to hide amongst the locals and use them as human shields to gain some sort of attention to their 'plight.'
How many times have the Israelis settled on a cease fire only to have the entire mess begin again?
How many times have the Israelis settled on a cease fire only to have the entire mess begin again?
Just to add something:
Israelis settled after truces?
Well, you need more documentation, there was never such a thing for them. Thye have always been on the go to eliminate their enemies. Oh sure it is their right according to you, but it means they have never respected any truce. Their lowintensity and terrorising war (conducted by tne Mosad) is soemthing that happens everyday. Read the newspapers from the area to check on the daily things happening there.
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I abhor violence. In all it's complexity.
And I am not going to even bother try to justify the historical ifs and buts of the area in question. Too complicated. Suffices to say this.
There are two neighbors. Myself, and next door. Now if the guy next door throws stones at my glass windows, I'll possibly swear the first time.
If he does again, I'll probably go there and have a shouting match with him
If he keeps on doing it, I'm going to knock him down and level him off.
And if he keeps making my life a hassle for me, then I'd probably go over and set his house on fire.
Do you get the gist of what I am saying?
Why did Hamas start shooting rockets at Israel when there was an internationally agreed truce in action?
And I am not going to even bother try to justify the historical ifs and buts of the area in question. Too complicated. Suffices to say this.
There are two neighbors. Myself, and next door. Now if the guy next door throws stones at my glass windows, I'll possibly swear the first time.
If he does again, I'll probably go there and have a shouting match with him
If he keeps on doing it, I'm going to knock him down and level him off.
And if he keeps making my life a hassle for me, then I'd probably go over and set his house on fire.
Do you get the gist of what I am saying?
Why did Hamas start shooting rockets at Israel when there was an internationally agreed truce in action?
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nora83: its the sixth day , 4oo are killed and over 2000 are injuired, no food , no water , no Petrol , no medication, no electricity, and Israel refuses to stop the raids that are killing innocent people in Gaza , among the international silence . wat do you think ?
hamas is nothing but a bunch of cowards hiding among civilians for cover. all they do is use the palestians as sheep for there own causes. they fired the rockets into isreal, what do they think the isrealis would do, nothing! they get what they deserve as far as i am concerned.------ This thread is Archived ------
gozoman2: I abhor violence. In all it's complexity.
And I am not going to even bother try to justify the historical ifs and buts of the area in question. Too complicated. Suffices to say this.
There are two neighbors. Myself, and next door. Now if the guy next door throws stones at my glass windows, I'll possibly swear the first time.
If he does again, I'll probably go there and have a shouting match with him
If he keeps on doing it, I'm going to knock him down and level him off.
And if he keeps making my life a hassle for me, then I'd probably go over and set his house on fire.
Do you get the gist of what I am saying?
Why did Hamas start shooting rockets at Israel when there was an internationally agreed truce in action?
And I am not going to even bother try to justify the historical ifs and buts of the area in question. Too complicated. Suffices to say this.
There are two neighbors. Myself, and next door. Now if the guy next door throws stones at my glass windows, I'll possibly swear the first time.
If he does again, I'll probably go there and have a shouting match with him
If he keeps on doing it, I'm going to knock him down and level him off.
And if he keeps making my life a hassle for me, then I'd probably go over and set his house on fire.
Do you get the gist of what I am saying?
Why did Hamas start shooting rockets at Israel when there was an internationally agreed truce in action?
Thank You gozo, but in truth this is more about this man's irrational hatred of me for some perceived ill against a man he does not know. He is not trying to justify anything but his provokation and belittlement of me. A goal I assure carries no weight as his words have far too often been of little use to anyone here, beyond his expression of his own personal misery.
He sees me as some threat when in truth I am no threat to anyone here. I will defend myself to be certain and I will be wrong. But I will not stand by idly and allow such a piss poor example of common decency to slander me with suppositions and insinuations that are quite clear throughout his posts here and elsewhere to me.
Again if I was so opposed to Al for his attack on my family, parenting skills and my personal past then why have I not reported him for the exact same things. Because I do not value the opinion of a man like him and even if I did I would merely count it a loss of friendship (assuming I would have been such prior to this battery of personal degradation) and walk away.
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BarrenPneuma: Thank You gozo, but in truth this is more about this man's irrational hatred of me for some perceived ill against a man he does not know. He is not trying to justify anything but his provokation and belittlement of me. A goal I assure carries no weight as his words have far too often been of little use to anyone here, beyond his expression of his own personal misery.
He sees me as some threat when in truth I am no threat to anyone here. I will defend myself to be certain and I will be wrong. But I will not stand by idly and allow such a piss poor example of common decency to slander me with suppositions and insinuations that are quite clear throughout his posts here and elsewhere to me.
Again if I was so opposed to Al for his attack on my family, parenting skills and my personal past then why have I not reported him for the exact same things. Because I do not value the opinion of a man like him and even if I did I would merely count it a loss of friendship (assuming I would have been such prior to this battery of personal degradation) and walk away.
He sees me as some threat when in truth I am no threat to anyone here. I will defend myself to be certain and I will be wrong. But I will not stand by idly and allow such a piss poor example of common decency to slander me with suppositions and insinuations that are quite clear throughout his posts here and elsewhere to me.
Again if I was so opposed to Al for his attack on my family, parenting skills and my personal past then why have I not reported him for the exact same things. Because I do not value the opinion of a man like him and even if I did I would merely count it a loss of friendship (assuming I would have been such prior to this battery of personal degradation) and walk away.
Come on man! do you think you are so important?
Come on. Stop that.
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Antjo39: Come on man! do you think you are so important?
Come on. Stop that.
Come on. Stop that.
No but by reading your responses you certainly do. And for that I am truly sorry. I never intended to be any part of your hatred or to occupy so much as a single particle of your mind.
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thats for your quote .
well , i read alot in history, and found out that its sirael who started the fight , they started the shooting, there was a truce , right ! wat kind of trucw while Gaza was suffering the accupation, all closed , no food / water / medication / petrol was allowed to inter the city , wat kind of truce is that ? many people died while giving birth, many people died bcz they didnt have enough medication, what kind of truce is that ?
and since Israel is assuming that they are chasing Hamas ( thats wat they assume ) , why do they raid on schools and mosques and civilians ?
please im waiting for your reply
well , i read alot in history, and found out that its sirael who started the fight , they started the shooting, there was a truce , right ! wat kind of trucw while Gaza was suffering the accupation, all closed , no food / water / medication / petrol was allowed to inter the city , wat kind of truce is that ? many people died while giving birth, many people died bcz they didnt have enough medication, what kind of truce is that ?
and since Israel is assuming that they are chasing Hamas ( thats wat they assume ) , why do they raid on schools and mosques and civilians ?
please im waiting for your reply
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First of all the U.S. will do little to stop the Israeli's. Why? Because they support Israel politcally, finacially, and militarily. Second, the U.S. knows that if they ever got into a conflict with Israel they would be reduced to ashes. Israel, probably has the most powerful military on the face of the planet. If they wanted they could bring the U.S. to their knees. They know it and the U.S. knows it. As for the continued attacks in Gaza, the Palestinian population can thank Hamas for these continued attacks. They are the one's putting their own people in harm's way. The Israeli government WILL NEVER allow anyone to jeapordize their way of life again, especially after the Holocaust.
nora83: its the sixth day , 4oo are killed and over 2000 are injuired, no food , no water , no Petrol , no medication, no electricity, and Israel refuses to stop the raids that are killing innocent people in Gaza , among the international silence . wat do you think ?
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BarrenPneuma: No but by reading your responses you certainly do. And for that I am truly sorry. I never intended to be any part of your hatred or to occupy so much as a single particle of your mind.
Good then. You don´t then. I examined that case you were mentioning about Bnatural and gave my opinion.
Ok, not my cup of tea I admit.
I just thought that an open war with you will get me reported that is why I mentioned the case.
If you are a brave warrior not using low resources then good for you.
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