Shadow_lover: I always find it amusing how Muslim countries attack Israel and think this is fine because they feel Jews are a cancer on the earth, but when Israel strikes back they cry like little girls. The best part is hearing the word terrorist used when a nation like Israel is defending themselves, but you feel that word is taboo when Israel is the victim.
So true, so true!! Well said!! Remember the miracle of Israel's 6 Day War.
solitare: mickeyscouse: i think the iranians should fire some rockets at tel aviv to help there brothers outThat would be a good answer for the "Who Will Start WWIII" thread. China tried something similar during the so called 'police action' in Korea , by sending vast numbers of 'volunteer troops' to push the 'allied troops' out of the entire peninsula. (Of course, they would have succeeded if the threat of US atom bombs had not been used, halting those 'volunteers'), but if the entire Muslim world along with European factions that are very pro Palestine would start sending volunteers much better armed to fight the Zionists, that could very well prove interesting as to how the Zionists would respond... ie. would they bomb Cairo or Amman if volunteers were being gathered there to go into Gaza or Israel to fight the Zionists...would they attack any European city where volunteers were being recruited with the full support of the people...or Tehran...or Mecca??? Interesting possibilities... Arafat's old PLO groups never had a problem in getting foreign volunteers from around the world and training them...
Solitaire,
Very interesting idea you have posted here!! Sounds like you are ready now to volunteer and go over to one of the arab countries and amass on Israel's border or go into Israeli territory and lob a few rockets? Do you have your bags packed yet? Will you run and hide amongst the civilian Palestinians when the rockets and mortar are lobbed at you and let the poor innocent civilians die in your place? Or will you heroicly stand there and keep fighting until you are shot or killed. Now that would be more honorable. You can volunteer almost anywhere in the world where there is a strong cause for a foreign fighter against the Israelis for that matter, not just Cairo or Amman. Would these people fight for you to protect your life or your country from other terrorist organizations? I sincerely doubt it!! They have their own agenda to fulfill and will do anything to get what they want and at whatever cost!! So go over there if you believe that strongly in what they have to offer you. It could be a one way door for your return to your current home other than in a coffin. You are a very talented man and your loss for someone else's cause would be mourned by many who love and care for you.
Very interesting idea you have posted here!! Sounds like you are ready now to volunteer and go over to one of the arab countries and amass on Israel's border or go into Israeli territory and lob a few rockets? Do you have your bags packed yet? Will you run and hide amongst the civilian Palestinians when the rockets and mortar are lobbed at you and let the poor innocent civilians die in your place? Or will you heroicly stand there and keep fighting until you are shot or killed. Now that would be more honorable. You can volunteer almost anywhere in the world where there is a strong cause for a foreign fighter against the Israelis for that matter, not just Cairo or Amman. Would these people fight for you to protect your life or your country from other terrorist organizations? I sincerely doubt it!! They have their own agenda to fulfill and will do anything to get what they want and at whatever cost!! So go over there if you believe that strongly in what they have to offer you. It could be a one way door for your return to your current home other than in a coffin. You are a very talented man and your loss for someone else's cause would be mourned by many who love and care for you.
Posting concerning the possible 'chess-game' moves abstactically is a far cry from someone trying to personalize the issues. It is no secret here or anywhere in Europe or the US about my past activities in regards to these issues, thanks largely to the various media, be it print and/or television shows in which I have taken part in or have been the subject of attack and vilification and indeed, even some praise by some very well known media outlets. Various 'intelligence' agencies have also their own assessments and opinions of both myself and my family as do some of the infamous agents of some of these agencies. Nothing of which anyone here knows other than what I have posted over the years on these types of threads. It is no secret that I have supported (and continue to support) many mis- named 'terrorist groups' since the late 60's in many ways, as have other members of my and related families around Europe and the US. That support has taken many forms, from money to being in and on those front lines after training in various armies and camps operated by sympathetic countries. "Been there and done that" as the saying goes. We are all quite proud of the CIA's and FBI's assessment that we are "a nest of vipers" LOL! Others, be they for or against always seem to have convenient excuses for themselves not to risk full commitment to any cause; they find it far easier to ignorantly challenge those on a personal basis in regards to matters of which they haven't the slightest knowledge let alone any first hand experience;(the drawing-room Marxists, Fascists or New World Order types) they are really beneath contempt all around. Far better a committed adversary than a coward with an excuse to avoid a commitment that risks all. The very least one of these drawing room/ parlor room cowards could do is to join the Doctors Without Borders , Int. Red Cross or hell, even the Red Crescent in one of the Palestinian refugee camps and get themselves bloody from all the blown-up children...
Seems to me that people inside of Gaza are shooting missles into Israel. You need to look at both side of the story. Each day Israel attacks appears to be to stop the rockets.
LACaliSouthern California, California USA936 posts
Big_John: Seems to me that people inside of Gaza are shooting missles into Israel. You need to look at both side of the story. Each day Israel attacks appears to be to stop the rockets.
I am really amazed, I really thought that any human being ;if I can call you that; will be really touched and sad when he sees civilians being killed like animals, when he sees children parts being gathered from the floors, when he sees horror in its worst views.
its really cold there, really cold and families are missing not just food but also shelter, which I will expect you will make sure its there for your dog.
But you are concerned for sir, is how to stop hamas from defending its cause, well let me tell you sir that native indians according to you were terrorists too, yes they were bombed by europeans but they were throwing arrows, shame on them!!
thousands of years ??????you are not serious ,must be kidding???if so maybe we should leave the US and go back to where we came from and just leave the land to the native indians ,its their land isnt it
BarrenPneuma: No but removing the terrorist element from the local region would direct the attacks elsewhere. But the Hamas cowards are too proficient at hiding their acts amongst the poor sufferers to involve the pity of the world for their cause.
nora83: its the sixth day , 4oo are killed and over 2000 are injuired, no food , no water , no Petrol , no medication, no electricity, and Israel refuses to stop the raids that are killing innocent people in Gaza , among the international silence . wat do you think ?
Hamas attacked first. Israel is defending itself against the entire Arab World.
RobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK4,553 posts
nora83: its the sixth day , 4oo are killed and over 2000 are injuired, no food , no water , no Petrol , no medication, no electricity, and Israel refuses to stop the raids that are killing innocent people in Gaza , among the international silence . wat do you think ?
What makes you think there's international silence?
We are horrified by it as well
Can you email the people who launch rockets at Israel and tell them to stop, then the Israeli Government won't have an excuse to blow the crap out of the poor civilians in the middle.
The sooner people stop provoking Israel then all parties will be pressured to the talks table and settle the problem once and for all.
I for one certainly don't back Isael blowing the crap out of an area, but handing them an excuse to bomb or take territory and cause death and misery to countless people is disgusting.
So please, pretty please don't think everyone in the west agrees with their actions.
samans: But the native americans are treated like kings in Canada while palestenians are treated as second line citizins in whats called israel.
Kings??? What planet are you from? Try being a Native American here its not all that you are imagining. Their culture has been damaged and their language is nearly erradicated. It is only through great efforts that they have managed to maintain any sort of idea of who they were and should be. And this even when they are not constantly strapping explosives to their women and children and sending them out for a stroll.
samans: But the native americans are treated like kings in Canada while palestenians are treated as second line citizins in whats called israel.
UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM...I don't know where you got that from....but it's not true and besides what does that have to do with land occupation....nothing....it's the same all around...isn't it????
I cant understand you, so are you against the israeli occupation of the palestinians lands????
BarrenPneuma: Kings??? What planet are you from? Try being a Native American here its not all that you are imagining. Their culture has been damaged and their language is nearly erradicated. It is only through great efforts that they have managed to maintain any sort of idea of who they were and should be. And this even when they are not constantly strapping explosives to their women and children and sending them out for a stroll.
Prince_Charming_: This is Isreal. they did build thier state at bodies of Arabs
That land historically, originally belongs,belonged to Israel. They are defending what's rightfully theirs. Israel gave the Gaza Strip to the Palestinians who are now under control by Hamas who are now using it as an offensive base to attack Israel.
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So true, so true!! Well said!! Remember the miracle of Israel's 6 Day War.