Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share ! (814)
Ambrose2007: Why is she any more biased than you are??
One huge difference is that it's not your friends and family who are dying.
I am bias against terrioist,She threatened Indy,I was staying off this thread untill I saw that.An American who wont watch the back of another American isnt worth their salt.Ur just on me because u know I am a christian.U always jump in when it comes to religion.She is not who she says she is.You dont know me.How do u know I didnt have anyone killed in the terrorist bombings?You know I donr ever talk to u.You also protest to much.I am Native American,remember? Nah I dont know about having family killed. One huge difference is that it's not your friends and family who are dying.
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outofspace: An easy solution to all wars...Whoever wants to start a war should have to be in the front line, not hiding behind their troops.
I bet the world would be a much more peaceful place, if that was the rule.
I bet the world would be a much more peaceful place, if that was the rule.
stop sending the kids and fight their own dam wars.
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littlewolf: I am bias against terrioist,She threatened Indy,I was staying off this thread untill I saw that.An American who wont watch the back of another American isnt worth their salt.Ur just on me because u know I am a christian.U always jump in when it comes to religion.She is not who she says she is.You dont know me.How do u know I didnt have anyone killed in the terrorist bombings?You know I donr ever talk to u.You also protest to much.I am Native American,remember? Nah I dont know about having family killed.
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Ambrose2007: Sorry, Space, I've had a couple of beers and didn't read you accurately. (That's my excuse, and I'm sticking to it.)
Palestinians are the newest of all the peoples on the face of the Earth, and began to exist in a single day by a kind of supernatural phenomenon that is unique in the whole history of mankind, as it is witnessed by Walid Shoebat, a former PLO terrorist .
There has never been any Palestinian state, neither any Palestinian archaeological find nor coinage. The present-day "Palestinians" are an Arab people, with Arab culture, Arabic language and Arab history. They have their own Arab states from where they came into the Land of Israel about one century ago to contrast the Jewish immigration. That is the historical truth. They were Jordanians (another recent British invention, as there has never been any people known as "Jordanians"), and after the Six-Day War in which Israel utterly defeated the coalition of nine Arab states and took legitimate possession of Judea and Samaria, the Arab dwellers in those regions underwent a kind of anthropological miracle and discovered that they were Palestinians - something they did not know the day before. Of course, these people having a new identity had to build themselves a history, namely, had to steal some others' history, and the only way that the victims of the theft would not complain is if those victims do no longer exist.
The Palestinians: no, they are not any ancient people, but claim to be. They were born in a single day, after a war that lasted six days in 1967 c.e. If they were true Canaanites, they would speak Hebrew and demand from Syria to give them back their occupied homeland in Lebanon, but they are not. If they were Philistines, they would claim back the Isle of Crete from Greece and would recognize that they have nothing to do with the Land of Israel, and would ask excuses to Israel for having stolen the Ark of the Covenant.
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If they go back who would run our gas stations?
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mastic55: If they go back who would run our gas stations?
''they '' who?? and go back where??
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Until the economies of countries like the USA are no longer based on fossil fuels there will be no peace in the middle east. If these countries ever worked together they could control the production and prices of oil thereby controlling the economies of a good part of the world.
You only have to look at a country like Nicaragua, which before US interference was a stable country with a strong government that did not open their arms to American business concerns. Long before funding the Contra rebels the CIA put into operation a propaganda campaign that tore the country apart. This is not conspiracy theory, it´s well documented fact that everyone just seems to forget about.
I see the same thing happening in the Middle East... at one point King Hussein of Jordan had a peace plan that nearly succeeded until Carter interfered by creating a separate peace plan with Egypt and Israel during the Camp David talks.
Hamas is nothing more then the puppet of all who continue to benefit by unrest and instability in the Middle East.
You only have to look at a country like Nicaragua, which before US interference was a stable country with a strong government that did not open their arms to American business concerns. Long before funding the Contra rebels the CIA put into operation a propaganda campaign that tore the country apart. This is not conspiracy theory, it´s well documented fact that everyone just seems to forget about.
I see the same thing happening in the Middle East... at one point King Hussein of Jordan had a peace plan that nearly succeeded until Carter interfered by creating a separate peace plan with Egypt and Israel during the Camp David talks.
Hamas is nothing more then the puppet of all who continue to benefit by unrest and instability in the Middle East.
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SophieDarin: ''they '' who?? and go back where??
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jbibiza: Until the economies of countries like the USA are no longer based on fossil fuels there will be no peace in the middle east. If these countries ever worked together they could control the production and prices of oil thereby controlling the economies of a good part of the world.
You only have to look at a country like Nicaragua, which before US interference was a stable country with a strong government that did not open their arms to American business concerns. Long before funding the Contra rebels the CIA put into operation a propaganda campaign that tore the country apart. This is not conspiracy theory, it´s well documented fact that everyone just seems to forget about.
I see the same thing happening in the Middle East... at one point King Hussein of Jordan had a peace plan that nearly succeeded until Carter interfered by creating a separate peace plan with Egypt and Israel during the Camp David talks.
Hamas is nothing more then the puppet of all who continue to benefit by unrest and instability in the Middle East.
You only have to look at a country like Nicaragua, which before US interference was a stable country with a strong government that did not open their arms to American business concerns. Long before funding the Contra rebels the CIA put into operation a propaganda campaign that tore the country apart. This is not conspiracy theory, it´s well documented fact that everyone just seems to forget about.
I see the same thing happening in the Middle East... at one point King Hussein of Jordan had a peace plan that nearly succeeded until Carter interfered by creating a separate peace plan with Egypt and Israel during the Camp David talks.
Hamas is nothing more then the puppet of all who continue to benefit by unrest and instability in the Middle East.
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Indyfella: Don't ya think Ambrose if Hamas would quit attacking Israel there wouldn't be a problem?
If that´s the case... why does Israel have more then 30% greater land mass then they were originally given after the war? Is it wrong for a country to protect it´s borders and refuse to continue to lose land to a neighboring country?
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mastic55: I don't know...
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you beat a pitbull with a steak and you will get your face ripped off. How could anyone not understand that?
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SophieDarin: Palestinians are the newest of all the peoples on the face of the Earth, and began to exist in a single day by a kind of supernatural phenomenon that is unique in the whole history of mankind, as it is witnessed by Walid Shoebat, a former PLO terrorist .
There has never been any Palestinian state, neither any Palestinian archaeological find nor coinage. The present-day "Palestinians" are an Arab people, with Arab culture, Arabic language and Arab history. They have their own Arab states from where they came into the Land of Israel about one century ago to contrast the Jewish immigration. That is the historical truth. They were Jordanians (another recent British invention, as there has never been any people known as "Jordanians"), and after the Six-Day War in which Israel utterly defeated the coalition of nine Arab states and took legitimate possession of Judea and Samaria, the Arab dwellers in those regions underwent a kind of anthropological miracle and discovered that they were Palestinians - something they did not know the day before. Of course, these people having a new identity had to build themselves a history, namely, had to steal some others' history, and the only way that the victims of the theft would not complain is if those victims do no longer exist.
The Palestinians: no, they are not any ancient people, but claim to be. They were born in a single day, after a war that lasted six days in 1967 c.e. If they were true Canaanites, they would speak Hebrew and demand from Syria to give them back their occupied homeland in Lebanon, but they are not. If they were Philistines, they would claim back the Isle of Crete from Greece and would recognize that they have nothing to do with the Land of Israel, and would ask excuses to Israel for having stolen the Ark of the Covenant.
There has never been any Palestinian state, neither any Palestinian archaeological find nor coinage. The present-day "Palestinians" are an Arab people, with Arab culture, Arabic language and Arab history. They have their own Arab states from where they came into the Land of Israel about one century ago to contrast the Jewish immigration. That is the historical truth. They were Jordanians (another recent British invention, as there has never been any people known as "Jordanians"), and after the Six-Day War in which Israel utterly defeated the coalition of nine Arab states and took legitimate possession of Judea and Samaria, the Arab dwellers in those regions underwent a kind of anthropological miracle and discovered that they were Palestinians - something they did not know the day before. Of course, these people having a new identity had to build themselves a history, namely, had to steal some others' history, and the only way that the victims of the theft would not complain is if those victims do no longer exist.
The Palestinians: no, they are not any ancient people, but claim to be. They were born in a single day, after a war that lasted six days in 1967 c.e. If they were true Canaanites, they would speak Hebrew and demand from Syria to give them back their occupied homeland in Lebanon, but they are not. If they were Philistines, they would claim back the Isle of Crete from Greece and would recognize that they have nothing to do with the Land of Israel, and would ask excuses to Israel for having stolen the Ark of the Covenant.
It's been a while since I did any history classes so I googled this up just to make sure.
"From the fifth century BC, following the historian Herodotus, Greeks called the eastern coast of the Mediterranean "the Philistine Syria" using the Greek language form of the name. In AD 135, after putting down the Bar Kochba revolt, the second major Jewish revolt against Rome, the Emperor Hadrian wanted to blot out the name of the Roman "Provincia Judaea" and so renamed it "Provincia Syria Palaestina", the Latin version of the Greek name and the first use of the name as an administrative unit. The name "Provincia Syria Palaestina" was later shortened to Palaestina, from which the modern, anglicized "Palestine" is derived.
This remained the situation until the end of the fourth century, when in the wake of a general imperial reorganization Palestine became three Palestines: First, Second, and Third. This configuration is believed to have persisted into the seventh century, the time of the Persian and Muslim conquests.
The Christian Crusaders employed the word Palestine to refer to the general region of the "three Palestines." After the fall of the crusader kingdom, Palestine was no longer an official designation. The name, however, continued to be used informally for the lands on both sides of the Jordan River. The Ottoman Turks, who were non-Arabs but religious Muslims, ruled the area for 400 years (1517-1917). Under Ottoman rule, the Palestine region was attached administratively to the province of Damascus and ruled from Istanbul. The name Palestine was revived after the fall of the Ottoman Empire in World War I and applied to the territory in this region that was placed under the British Mandate for Palestine."
Hope this helps
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Get real. Israel is just a US military state. When i was growing up we would watch on tv palestinian children throwing rocks at israeli tanks which in turn would fire rockets at the children. Israel is a virus supported by a bankrupt US.
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outofspace: It's been a while since I did any history classes so I googled this up just to make sure.
"From the fifth century BC, following the historian Herodotus, Greeks called the eastern coast of the Mediterranean "the Philistine Syria" using the Greek language form of the name. In AD 135, after putting down the Bar Kochba revolt, the second major Jewish revolt against Rome, the Emperor Hadrian wanted to blot out the name of the Roman "Provincia Judaea" and so renamed it "Provincia Syria Palaestina", the Latin version of the Greek name and the first use of the name as an administrative unit. The name "Provincia Syria Palaestina" was later shortened to Palaestina, from which the modern, anglicized "Palestine" is derived.
This remained the situation until the end of the fourth century, when in the wake of a general imperial reorganization Palestine became three Palestines: First, Second, and Third. This configuration is believed to have persisted into the seventh century, the time of the Persian and Muslim conquests.
The Christian Crusaders employed the word Palestine to refer to the general region of the "three Palestines." After the fall of the crusader kingdom, Palestine was no longer an official designation. The name, however, continued to be used informally for the lands on both sides of the Jordan River. The Ottoman Turks, who were non-Arabs but religious Muslims, ruled the area for 400 years (1517-1917). Under Ottoman rule, the Palestine region was attached administratively to the province of Damascus and ruled from Istanbul. The name Palestine was revived after the fall of the Ottoman Empire in World War I and applied to the territory in this region that was placed under the British Mandate for Palestine."
Hope this helps
"From the fifth century BC, following the historian Herodotus, Greeks called the eastern coast of the Mediterranean "the Philistine Syria" using the Greek language form of the name. In AD 135, after putting down the Bar Kochba revolt, the second major Jewish revolt against Rome, the Emperor Hadrian wanted to blot out the name of the Roman "Provincia Judaea" and so renamed it "Provincia Syria Palaestina", the Latin version of the Greek name and the first use of the name as an administrative unit. The name "Provincia Syria Palaestina" was later shortened to Palaestina, from which the modern, anglicized "Palestine" is derived.
This remained the situation until the end of the fourth century, when in the wake of a general imperial reorganization Palestine became three Palestines: First, Second, and Third. This configuration is believed to have persisted into the seventh century, the time of the Persian and Muslim conquests.
The Christian Crusaders employed the word Palestine to refer to the general region of the "three Palestines." After the fall of the crusader kingdom, Palestine was no longer an official designation. The name, however, continued to be used informally for the lands on both sides of the Jordan River. The Ottoman Turks, who were non-Arabs but religious Muslims, ruled the area for 400 years (1517-1917). Under Ottoman rule, the Palestine region was attached administratively to the province of Damascus and ruled from Istanbul. The name Palestine was revived after the fall of the Ottoman Empire in World War I and applied to the territory in this region that was placed under the British Mandate for Palestine."
Hope this helps
You hope this helps for what?
What you posted endorses what I've said. ''Palestine '' is a Roman invention to erase the name of the rebel jews.If "Palestinians" allegedly are the historic inhabitants of the Holy Land, why did they not fight for independence from Roman occupation as Jews did? How is it possible that not a single Palestinian leader heading for a revolt against the Roman invaders is mentioned in any historic record? Why there is not any Palestinian rebel group mentioned, as for example the Jewish Zealots?
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quanta: Get real. Israel is just a US military state. When i was growing up we would watch on tv .
I think it might actually be the reverse. In more ways than one.
Find out how much money the US sends to Isreal.
Find out who actually owned the Towers.
Find out who gets the "security" contracts in the US.
Find out the similarites in 'gustapo' and 'homeland security'
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wasnt some of the west bank given back a little while ago?? if that is the case that there really is 30% more land than originally granted, then for this i am sorry....
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In your previous post you said "there has never been any Palestinian state". Obviously there was, instigated by the Romans, accepted by the Persians, incoming Muslims, and Ottoman Turks.
You also said "they came into the land of Israel about one century ago to contrast the Jewish immigration". Clearly not, if the land of Palestine was recognised as long ago as the 5th century bc.
You also said "the Arab dwellers in those regions underwent a kind of anthropological miracle and discovered that they were Palestinians". Perhaps they "re-discovered" they were Palestinians, and part of an ancient land?
You also said "The Palestinians: no, they are not any ancient people, but claim to be. They were born in a single day, after a war that lasted six days in 1967 c.e." This contrasts remarkably with, "they came into the land of Israel about one century ago". Which is it 1967 or 1908? I would suggest that anyone born in a land called Palestine from the 5th century bc, was Palestinian.
Whatever the land is called, doesn't excuse the wholesale slaughter of the Palestinian people by the Israeli's. It's a bit like leaving a restaurant for a few years, then coming back and killing everyone at the table where you used to sit, because you wanted to sit there again.
You also said "they came into the land of Israel about one century ago to contrast the Jewish immigration". Clearly not, if the land of Palestine was recognised as long ago as the 5th century bc.
You also said "the Arab dwellers in those regions underwent a kind of anthropological miracle and discovered that they were Palestinians". Perhaps they "re-discovered" they were Palestinians, and part of an ancient land?
You also said "The Palestinians: no, they are not any ancient people, but claim to be. They were born in a single day, after a war that lasted six days in 1967 c.e." This contrasts remarkably with, "they came into the land of Israel about one century ago". Which is it 1967 or 1908? I would suggest that anyone born in a land called Palestine from the 5th century bc, was Palestinian.
Whatever the land is called, doesn't excuse the wholesale slaughter of the Palestinian people by the Israeli's. It's a bit like leaving a restaurant for a few years, then coming back and killing everyone at the table where you used to sit, because you wanted to sit there again.
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SophieDarin: You hope this helps for what?
What you posted endorses what I've said. ''Palestine '' is a Roman invention to erase the name of the rebel jews.If "Palestinians" allegedly are the historic inhabitants of the Holy Land, why did they not fight for independence from Roman occupation as Jews did? How is it possible that not a single Palestinian leader heading for a revolt against the Roman invaders is mentioned in any historic record? Why there is not any Palestinian rebel group mentioned, as for example the Jewish Zealots?
What you posted endorses what I've said. ''Palestine '' is a Roman invention to erase the name of the rebel jews.If "Palestinians" allegedly are the historic inhabitants of the Holy Land, why did they not fight for independence from Roman occupation as Jews did? How is it possible that not a single Palestinian leader heading for a revolt against the Roman invaders is mentioned in any historic record? Why there is not any Palestinian rebel group mentioned, as for example the Jewish Zealots?
This is where I have a problem... throughout history people have been conquered and lost lands so the history doesn´t really have a lot to do with anything. Jewish is a religion and they come from all parts of Europe... what other religion has ever been given a country of their own? The only reason that it happened in the first place was guilt in Europe over the horrendous acts against those of the Jewish faith during the war and no country wanting to open their doors to displaced Jews.
The people occupying that region had their homes and business´s taken from them... not through being defeated in war but through a decision made by world leaders that they had no say in. Since that initial decisions Israel has continued to push the borders of their country to gain additional land and all this is condoned because of some ancient claim to the land?
I´m sorry but it just makes no sense to me what so ever.
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One huge difference is that it's not your friends and family who are dying.
Don't ya think Ambrose if Hamas would quit attacking Israel there wouldn't be a problem?