Unfortunately this is it: there is and I guess will always be a war of attrition between fanatism and tolerance. What to do???
Only the two sides can do it by dropping their arms first...and then everything goes on the table to negotiate...between Israel...Palestine and yes even Hamas..because of what I said earlier...about them only remaining a fly in the ointment and being a continuing spoiler of peace if they aren't and don't also agree...only each side knows what they want..what they will settle for to make it work...Nobody else knows or can tell them what's right for them...but that has to be the basic structure for any negotiations to succeed and at least get the area settled...Then the healing of hatred between the two sides some how must begin...because continued hatred will only foster more malcontent...and a way to co-exist side by side....
No, but sometimes I feel that my patience has expired. As pessimistic as this may sound, I don't really think it matters what we say here, because sooner or later someone's sure gonna press those buttons and send off a whole load of nuclear missiles. And my guess is that it'll be Israel. And as there's hardly anyone among us who can state with absolute certainty that they KNOW even whether their parents are their real, biological parents, then that doesn't say much for the rest of our opinions as to WHO is behind all this conflict. The "illuminati" maybe..? We simply don't know. At the end of the day all we can do is keep our heads down when the morons obeying orders finally DO press those buttons. It hardly makes any difference to earthquake victims HOW their families were killed. Either the military blows your houses to smithereens or earthquakes do. Governments can be blamed for the former and I suppose "God" can be blamed for the latter. Could it all be "karma" by any chance..? The only reason the various Arab countries have not yet sent off everything they've got over Israel is because they know they've all got too much to lose. They're living in far too much luxury to dare jeopardize it with a guaranteed Israeli nuclear bomb landing on their palace doorsteps. So who the hell IS gonna stop them..?! After hearing through the Norwegian news from a Norwegian doctor helping the Palestinians just exactly what's going on down there (absolute carnage), I can only regret that a "final solution" cannot be found.
sambhava: No, but sometimes I feel that my patience has expired. As pessimistic as this may sound, I don't really think it matters what we say here, because sooner or later someone's sure gonna press those buttons and send off a whole load of nuclear missiles. And my guess is that it'll be Israel. And as there's hardly anyone among us who can state with absolute certainty that they KNOW even whether their parents are their real, biological parents, then that doesn't say much for the rest of our opinions as to WHO is behind all this conflict. The "illuminati" maybe..? We simply don't know. At the end of the day all we can do is keep our heads down when the morons obeying orders finally DO press those buttons. It hardly makes any difference to earthquake victims HOW their families were killed. Either the military blows your houses to smithereens or earthquakes do. Governments can be blamed for the former and I suppose "God" can be blamed for the latter. Could it all be "karma" by any chance..? The only reason the various Arab countries have not yet sent off everything they've got over Israel is because they know they've all got too much to lose. They're living in far too much luxury to dare jeopardize it with a guaranteed Israeli nuclear bomb landing on their palace doorsteps. So who the hell IS gonna stop them..?! After hearing through the Norwegian news from a Norwegian doctor helping the Palestinians just exactly what's going on down there (absolute carnage), I can only regret that a "final solution" cannot be found.
Hugz_n_Kissez: Only the two sides can do it by dropping their arms first...and then everything goes on the table to negotiate...between Israel...Palestine and yes even Hamas..because of what I said earlier...about them only remaining a fly in the ointment and being a continuing spoiler of peace if they aren't and don't also agree...only each side knows what they want..what they will settle for to make it work...Nobody else knows or can tell them what's right for them...but that has to be the basic structure for any negotiations to succeed and at least get the area settled...Then the healing of hatred between the two sides some how must begin...because continued hatred will only foster more malcontent...and a way to co-exist side by side....
)))) It sounds so beautiful))) Wake up Hugz!!! Look around here a bit what world we live in)))
Negociations??? The Arab world never wanted to negociate with Israel, neither directly, nor indirectly, though USA, Sweden, even Russia insisted , but the Arabs wouldn't. Ever!
Hiya SophieDarin, Can you stop the Jews from bulldozing Palestinian homes when the families are still inside? No no no lets not mention why the Jews are so hated, if you dont know ask your parents or grandparents, they didnt want them as neighbours after WW2 did they? 2009 prediction: Watch out for another twin towers, Bin Laden showed the world that America is an easy target and more will follow Bin Ladens example. You reap what you sow. The CIA funded Bin Laden, who funds the Israelites?
Hugz_n_Kissez: So what...continue killing and spreading the hate then????Is that the answer????????? Death to all those we don't like or agree with????If genocide represents a countries demise then there are more than just a couple on the chopping block.....Yeah I can see where you're coming from...kill kill kill...sounds like the solution to me...and what when there are no people left????
Im not talking about killing anyone whatsoever, that was my answer to a previous comment.
The answer only answer is an honest and just international leadership, not hidjaking United Nations by american vetos and doublestandings.
Israel must leave in peace by ending the occupation and killing of innocent people and let palestinian people leave their own lifes in peace.
all people of the world have the right to live in peace and have the right to resist occupation to get their freedom back.
)))) It sounds so beautiful))) Wake up Hugz!!! Look around here a bit what world we live in)))
Negociations??? The Arab world never wanted to negociate with Israel, neither directly, nor indirectly, though USA, Sweden, even Russia insisted , but the Arabs wouldn't. Ever![/quote
I am awake...and I am also saying that this is the only way it will work...otherwise there will be continued strife...if they want people to quit dying on both sides...then they will have to negotiate...if they want continued death...then don't...but they will be the holdouts to peace then...and have nobody to blame but themselves...
arranroot: Hiya SophieDarin, Can you stop the Jews from bulldozing Palestinian homes when the families are still inside? No no no lets not mention why the Jews are so hated, if you dont know ask your parents or grandparents, they didnt want them as neighbours after WW2 did they? 2009 prediction: Watch out for another twin towers, Bin Laden showed the world that America is an easy target and more will follow Bin Ladens example. You reap what you sow. The CIA funded Bin Laden, who funds the Israelites?
It's always good to know who your friends are...
How long have you hated Jews? Raised that way, or just a personal preference type thing?
Oh, when Hamas lobs over bombs to Israeli homes, do you get rattled the same way?
Monstyle: Im not talking about killing anyone whatsoever, that was my answer to a previous comment.
The answer only answer is an honest and just international leadership, not hidjaking United Nations by american vetos and doublestandings.
Israel must leave in peace by ending the occupation and killing of innocent people and let palestinian people leave their own lifes in peace.
all people of the world have the right to live in peace and have the right to resist occupation to get their freedom back.
You forget to mention one thing,same like all the others,THERE WAS NO PALESTINIAN STATE EVER,not prior to 1948. What they got now is about the closest they have gotten. Except they could have a State since 1948,if they hadn't listened to their Arab "Friends" then!
"Same difference" is a contradiction of terms. In some African villages the local witchdoctor goes round condemning and often killing children he claims to be possessed by demons. Now you can be for it or against it, but if such a moron tried killing any child of mine I'd kill him first. So yes, I'm very much "against" religion, and very justifiably so too!! Those "for" religion have been CONDITIONED to be so, while those against religion have woken up to its stultifying and repressive presence in the world. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN USED BY GOVERNMENTS TO CONTROL PEOPLE (WELL, STUPID PEOPLE, THAT IS).
Indyfella: I hear Afganistan is beautiful this time of year. Good luck Sparky
Thanks Indy, It's not bad but the fallout from the conflict between Israel and Palestine is being felt all over the region. I hope they can find a solution.
arranroot: Hiya SophieDarin, Can you stop the Jews from bulldozing Palestinian homes when the families are still inside? No no no lets not mention why the Jews are so hated, if you dont know ask your parents or grandparents, they didnt want them as neighbours after WW2 did they? 2009 prediction: Watch out for another twin towers, Bin Laden showed the world that America is an easy target and more will follow Bin Ladens example. You reap what you sow. The CIA funded Bin Laden, who funds the Israelites?
I had Hebrew neighbours-they were exquisite people.
I work with Israel A LOT-They are excellent persons.
I have muslim work colleagues- I am doing my best, all I can.
The bulldozed houses might be targeted for a certain reason, I cannot speculate from here such things. Why? because in Hamas' case we know they are capable of anything, even to hide under his mother's bed, knowing it will be blown up!!!!with or without the mother!
Sparky55: Thanks Indy, It's not bad but the fallout from the conflict between Israel and Palestine is being felt all over the region. I hope they can find a solution.
Give Israel 2 weeks. I think the solution will come.
Conrad73: You forget to mention one thing,same like all the others,THERE WAS NO PALESTINIAN STATE EVER,not prior to 1948. What they got now is about the closest they have gotten. Except they could have a State since 1948,if they hadn't listened to their Arab "Friends" then!
Thank you Conrad! This is what I was trying to explain yesterday to outofspace! But he came up with some google pages, not making any difference between the concept of Palestina as a constitutional state and the population named in the past ''palestinians'', decision made by the Romans in order to fight the Jew nation.
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