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Jan 2, 2009 7:12 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
nora83
nora83nora83Amman, Jordan3 Threads 113 Posts
wahrheit: yes agreed. and the US media being controlled by "Israeli frienly" for ces they make it seem as if Arabs and muslims are the onlu ones outraged by this.

Israelis are murderers.


true , please see our media , not the western one only , see our victims as well ,
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Jan 2, 2009 7:13 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
Sparky55
Sparky55Sparky55Somewhere, Afghanistan48 Threads 1 Polls 2,678 Posts
Antjo39: I support your observation.


Thanks.. To you and Gozoman for your comments.
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Jan 2, 2009 7:23 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
nora83
nora83nora83Amman, Jordan3 Threads 113 Posts
uptogo: You must be kidding... suppose someone came into your house and threading to kill your family, you sure your not sitting on your brains.


thank you sir for your post ,

but let me ask you something , who is coming to the house of whom , its our homeland , we own this land , and they came to acupy s , its our ful right to defend our rights .
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Jan 2, 2009 7:49 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
nora83
nora83nora83Amman, Jordan3 Threads 113 Posts
SophieDarin: Such statements should not be answered, replied to.
I stopped posting any quotes and comments to such barbaric statements yesterday evening.




wow , i organised that forum , so u r my guest , its very impolite to start telling ppl wat to answer and to whom to post, give ppl some freedom my lady , !! my french lady , you french you teach ppl how to act , start by yrself please ;) why is it barbaric , bcz it doesnt suit u , bcz its not yr idea and not supporting yrs , please learn how to respect other's opinions , too bad that french started to act this way ,

plus , look who is talking about barbarism , you french ppl , we dont forget wat you did to us when u babaricly accupied our country in marocco and algerie and tunis , and libya , and when Ponapart came to palestine and burbed the cities and killed hundreds , we dont forget how you killed our ppl and took our money and took advantages of our land , no need to open the old dirty books of your occupation madam , lets keep it closed,

if you dont want to see my posts , we are not imposing you to stay , remember u r my guest , and if u feel u dont like it , u dont have to stay madam ,

pleasure to meet u french lady
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Jan 2, 2009 8:06 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
Abram: Remember my previous post of individual passions, and desires od individuals to take the easiest route to secure possession. That too, goes with possession of thought, and those who buy into the propaganda put before them, without the desire to search for the truth. As your comment above, took a jab at the one who enlightened you.

Ok my friend , do not give so much importance to your opinions and try to fit the world into the framework of your terms. I do not have any problem in acknowledging from my mistakes or even telling people that I have learnt soemthing from them. If you laugh about that it is because you find it funny, then you would never do that. In actual you might never do so, your opinions (I would not call it theory becaue a theory is something more elaborated) show that when you think you have discovered a principle you can apply in all situations. Just rewind and do not go so far-fetched.wine
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Jan 2, 2009 8:10 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
talon1313
talon1313talon1313Pleasanton, California USA76 Posts
once again Israel gave Hammas an opportunity to stop sending rockets into Israel....They would not except...and so the violence continues. If these terrorist groups like Hammas would stop provoking Israel, they would not have to retaliate to protect themselves/
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Jan 2, 2009 8:11 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
ozmac
ozmacozmacSydney, New South Wales Australia6 Threads 5 Polls 31 Posts
It is appauling to see innocent people loose their lives, no matter what their faith is.

Freedom is won at the end of the gun barrel unfortunately and hence war will be a constant reminder of oppressors and their victims.

Should I enter your home and setup camp in the name of my holy father, you too will become a terrorist/freedom fighter.It is just history repeating itself.

Where is the faith in god and man? The answer is simple....

There are only men and their beleifs... Each with their version of the truth.

Give back the palestinians what belongs to them, their dignity, freedom and their future. As for Israle, they have more than what they need. They are not the only people who have suffered in the world and are owed nothing but the same as their neigbours.

We are all human beings of the same mother earth.
If someone came to Australia to take my home then I would be a terrorist in the name of freedom.

Like all wars, fair play doesnt exist, only the victor will be righteous. Only the victor will have their say.

As for the loser, god help you!
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Jan 2, 2009 8:21 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
mastic55
mastic55mastic55Long Island, New York USA167 Threads 6,859 Posts
The whole world is in piss poor shape.
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Jan 2, 2009 8:45 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
Abram
AbramAbramGoshen, Ohio USA9 Threads 2,077 Posts
Antjo39: Ok my friend , do not give so much importance to your opinions and try to fit the world into the framework of your terms. I do not have any problem in acknowledging from my mistakes or even telling people that I have learnt soemthing from them. If you laugh about that it is because you find it funny, then you would never do that. In actual you might never do so, your opinions (I would not call it theory becaue a theory is something more elaborated) show that when you think you have discovered a principle you can apply in all situations. Just rewind and do not go so far-fetched.


A theory is unproven speculation, that may contain some facts, but in the end, is still theory. Thus, its elaborative content which acts to hide that, which cannot be proven. Those laughs were not meant for you, but for the dry sense of humour, you used, when responding to another person. It is not my framework I try to fit the world into, for the world, its possessions, are not of my Love. Of what I have learned there are no words in any language to express its Truth, for to learn it one needs to be completely absent influences of the world. I do go off on a tangent sometimes, trying to get the point across. Your words to me well taken, thanks.
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Jan 3, 2009 1:27 AM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
ozmac: It is appauling to see innocent people loose their lives, no matter what their faith is.

Freedom is won at the end of the gun barrel unfortunately and hence war will be a constant reminder of oppressors and their victims.

Should I enter your home and setup camp in the name of my holy father, you too will become a terrorist/freedom fighter.It is just history repeating itself.

Where is the faith in god and man? The answer is simple....

There are only men and their beleifs... Each with their version of the truth.

Give back the palestinians what belongs to them, their dignity, freedom and their future. As for Israle, they have more than what they need. They are not the only people who have suffered in the world and are owed nothing but the same as their neigbours.

We are all human beings of the same mother earth.
If someone came to Australia to take my home then I would be a terrorist in the name of freedom.

Like all wars, fair play doesnt exist, only the victor will be righteous. Only the victor will have their say.

As for the loser, god help you!



Well said....and I agree....to control and oppress....over land...land which means more than human lives...doesn't make much sense does it...when the value of human life boils down to meaning less than the ground we walk on...that's the bottom line of it...after weeding through all of the bull that surrounds it all....wave wink roll eyes uh oh thumbs up
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Jan 3, 2009 1:35 AM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
Hugz_n_Kissez: Well said....and I agree....to control and oppress....over land...land which means more than human lives...doesn't make much sense does it...when the value of human life boils down to meaning less than the ground we walk on...that's the bottom line of it...after weeding through all of the bull that surrounds it all....


Good morning Hugs....my morning coffee session here before I move out..things to do this morning...

This thread has kept me up half the night.....and re-reading what i posted and the other posts since then, I realize in the clarity of the dawn....

It is extremely important that people like us, like me and you, who believe in the concept of life being sacred, make our voices heard.

We must carry the olive branch....since very few deem it fit to do so.....it our obligation to ourselves.

Just over a week ago, the world celebrated the birth of a child, whose message seems to have gone unheard......

Let there be peace on earth.

So once again, I revert to the immortal words of a certain pop singer who said......

ALL WE ARE SAYING...IS GIVE PEACE A CHANCE.
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Jan 3, 2009 3:03 AM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
gozoman2: Good morning Hugs....my morning coffee session here before I move out..things to do this morning...

This thread has kept me up half the night.....and re-reading what i posted and the other posts since then, I realize in the clarity of the dawn....

It is extremely important that people like us, like me and you, who believe in the concept of life being sacred, make our voices heard.

We must carry the olive branch....since very few deem it fit to do so.....it our obligation to ourselves.

Just over a week ago, the world celebrated the birth of a child, whose message seems to have gone unheard......

Let there be peace on earth.

So once again, I revert to the immortal words of a certain pop singer who said......

ALL WE ARE SAYING...IS GIVE PEACE A CHANCE.



Good Morning...and yes..there far less seekers of peace in the world than there are people willing to go to war...and human life becomes but a statistic...and for what????


Don't think of retiring from the world until the world will be sorry that you retire. I hate a fellow whom pride or cowardice or laziness drive into a corner, and who does nothing when he is there but sit and growl. Let him come out as I do, and bark.

~Samuel Johnson-


We've got to take back the ideal of justice, we've got to take back this principle of human dignity. We've got to take it back from vengeance, from hatred, we've got to say: look, we're all in this together. We are human beings.

-David Kaczynski-



Two great quotes that sum it up better than I can....Have a great day bud....Oh and I will never be silent about the things I believe are wrong...wave wink hug kiss hug heart beating
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Jan 3, 2009 3:37 AM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
Bananarama
BananaramaBananaramaChicago // Houston, Texas USA2 Threads 25 Posts
I think if you shoot rockets into another country then you have to expect repercussions.
I think if you put your weapons and military offices among civilians then you have to expect civilians to get killed when your enemy shoots back at you.
I think if you're a little weak country and you shoot at a bigger stronger country then you're not very intelligent.
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Jan 3, 2009 6:27 AM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
Abram: A theory is unproven speculation, that may contain some facts, but in the end, is still theory. Thus, its elaborative content which acts to hide that, which cannot be proven. Those laughs were not meant for you, but for the dry sense of humour, you used, when responding to another person. It is not my framework I try to fit the world into, for the world, its possessions, are not of my Love. Of what I have learned there are no words in any language to express its Truth, for to learn it one needs to be completely absent influences of the world. I do go off on a tangent sometimes, trying to get the point across. Your words to me well taken, thanks.

Well, I did not use any sense of humour when I answered to RayfromUSA. I just really meant that. It is true that from a single post one can think that way because in other posts I use infinite sarcasm with my occasional rivals but in the case of him I rendered my respects the same way I would render my respects to any occasional rival that shows me to have a better version of reality than mine. I would not have any problem to do so.

AS for the Hamas status that originated my post, I think I have been carried away a bit (forgetting my normal anarchism and distrust on political groups, and the worst, forgetting the origins of Hamas and all the dirty games played by the Zionists) by my enthusiasm to see people saying NO to the big bullies of this world. That is all, now I will have to reflect on that and learn my own lessons one more time. This is when your idea of the possession has to be reviewed, because at least in this particular case reality works in a more complicated way. Closely to your idea however I have reflected many times in the nature of our stagnation tendencies (well, I use that terminology), I mean the point where we would like to stop the world just to use something that gives us confort and pleasure (then you see the connection with your idea) Is this attitude a product of our long stay in this land? an expression that can be traced back to our ancestors in the caves, those weary wanderers that would have liked to stay in there forever if enough warmth and food was available? Well, just questions.

As for our concepts of a theory we see in different directions I can realise. I do not like when people talk pretentiously (though I know it is only an expression) "My theory is blah blah"
well, I am a little fanatic in this respect of what a theory is (by using the scientific paradigm of a theory) but on the other hand I can see what kind of theory you are talking about.

Anyway, points settled and I appreciate your presence in this forum even if we do not agree most of the time ....and who gives a bloody toss about that!!!? (and please do not posses many issues of WATCHTOWER.... possessions and more junk!! wink laugh )
Adios.
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Jan 3, 2009 6:59 AM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
kermit2007
kermit2007kermit2007melbourne, Victoria Australia14 Threads 3 Polls 158 Posts
do the fighters against israel, become martyrs?

aren't they gonna runout of virgins?
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Jan 3, 2009 7:06 AM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
seamushan
seamushanseamushangalway, Galway Ireland24 Posts
SophieDarin: Such statements should not be answered, replied to.
I stopped posting any quotes and comments to such barbaric statements yesterday evening.


How is that a barbaric statment to say if a member of your family is murdered by the israelis you might feel a slight propensity towads hate??Maybe murdering a family member in israeli is conducive with mutual feelings of love and repsect towards the perpetrators as you bury them in the soil???
The only thing that is barbarous is defunct attitude and viewshead banger
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Jan 3, 2009 7:23 AM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
seamushan: How is that a barbaric statment to say if a member of your family is murdered by the israelis you might feel a slight propensity towads hate??Maybe murdering a family member in israeli is conducive with mutual feelings of love and repsect towards the perpetrators as you bury them in the soil???
The only thing that is barbarous is defunct attitude and views
Mister,you're in dire need of some History 101,that reaches back into the Palestine of the 1800's.doh doh doh
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Jan 3, 2009 7:45 AM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
LACali
LACaliLACaliSouthern California, California USA3 Threads 936 Posts
kermit2007: do the fighters against israel, become martyrs?

aren't they gonna runout of virgins?


In Los Angeles they would have long ago...laugh
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Jan 3, 2009 10:54 AM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
solitare
solitaresolitareBariloche, Rio Negro Argentina40 Threads 4,041 Posts
After wading through these posts , most of which I find totally irrational, totally prejudiced and vindictive bordering on the hysterical nearly incomprehensible hatred of Arabs, Muslims and especially Palestinians, both Christian and Muslim. Makes me wonder just how many are possibly active agents of the Zionist disease promoting the total destruction of Palestine in every form possible, then to move on to destroy both Arabs and Muslims all in the name of 'democracy', 'freedom' and of course Israel....
Some observations: An exceedingly arrogant contempt for the past seems to be the characteristic of these 'modern times'. Our collective success in developing chemical, electronic and mechanical technologies has produced in most an idea that no one before us was of any importance. In fact, however, human nature has changed little in the last four thousand years and the history of these four millennia teems with situations similar to those which repeatedly confront us all today, right now.
Another factor essential to the comprehension of modern problems is the realization of the rather insidious influence still exerted today on the mentality of most non Catholic populations of Europe and North America by events which occurred many centuries ago. The 'Old Testament", for example, still profoundly and dangerously directs the psychology of those who advocate an Israli dominated Middle East at best or a Zionist dominated 'World Order" at worst as a means to your country's and your own personal biblical interpretation along with an almost murderous fanaticism lust to always be on the winning side.No matter how wrong it may be seen by others, much less 'your' victims of 'liberation' and 'your' version of 'democracy'. For these reasons, I am not really surprised at the immense number; thousands upon thousands of books written about the "Palestine Problem", which commence in 1917; which seek to justify the deconstruction and annihilation of Palestine and of its peoples.
Words are very deceptive at times. "Nation", for example, can mean the inhabitants of a certain area, which is controlled by one government. This political use of "nation" then has no ethnic significance. But "nation" is also used in the exact opposite to indicate an ethnic group, people all descended from the same ancestors, although not all under one government. The word "people" is even more confusing. I recently heard a lecture given by a Jew, whose object was to prove that Jews today are a "people", not a "nation". He appeared to mean that they were a definite community, though not of one ethnic origin. A German writer complains that the German "people" are still divided up in several, mostly artificially created 'countries'. He presumably means the word "people" to signify a single ethnic stock.
"We" are not entirely justified in laying the blame on the intractable mentality of "Arabs" and "Jews", as opposed to those who are committed to a belief in the so called 'holiness' of Zionism. For a great part of our difficulties are due to this age in which we all live, to the rampant, unquenchable thirst for materialism, the popularity of cynicism and the unscrupulous, murderous politics, which, in their turn, are traceable to the near total abandonment of belief in one God, not some localized tribal psychotic 'god' that is in no way conceivable, a Universal God. For men, if they lose sight of the Spiritual, behave to one another like wild beasts.
Vague words are of particular importance in the Palestine dispute because both sides have and are frequently using them with vastly different meanings and connotations, sometimes with the deliberate intention to mislead, I find that in order to communicate effectively, one must know the not only their own language properly, but to fully comprehend their own words so as not to create verbal quibbles in order to intentionally deceive or not, but to assure universal understanding and comprehension.
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Jan 3, 2009 11:04 AM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
LACali: In Los Angeles they would have long ago...


OH thank the Mighty Spirit.....

a tinge of sens of humour.......

THANK YOU darling......

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