Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share ! (814)
Hugz_n_Kissez: No I am sorry....I haven't been paid for....and why isn't it the same thing?????
I understand everything you said...I don't have to claim ancestry.,..I am 100% Mohawk...and why is one land occupation any different than than the other?????
How do you know our land wasn't given to us by theHoly spirit...(god) when your ancestors swooped in and stole it...My god I don't think I have ever seen such a hypocritical post...what's good for one is not good for the other I see...Sooooooo no war declared by the Indians of North America...cause that's where you live...although the land was taken no diffently..but hallelujia to anyone else who wants to kill for it..Yeahhhhhhhh that sounds fair......
I understand everything you said...I don't have to claim ancestry.,..I am 100% Mohawk...and why is one land occupation any different than than the other?????
How do you know our land wasn't given to us by the
*Great Spirit....
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Hugz_n_Kissez: ...My god I don't think I have ever seen such a hypocritical post......
But it was fun, wasn't it? Don't think my ancestors did in swooping in to kill Mohawk indians, hell, they fought beside them. Trappers, builders, and fighters, since first landing on the shores of America, on one side of the family, and Montreal, Canada on the other side. The key being FIGHTERS, to protect land for the prosperity of all to live, and build, on land given, of God, or your holy spirit.
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Abram: But it was fun, wasn't it? Don't think my ancestors did in swooping in to kill Mohawk indians, hell, they fought beside them. Trappers, builders, and fighters, since first landing on the shores of America, on one side of the family, and Montreal, Canada on the other side. The key being FIGHTERS, to protect land for the prosperity of all to live, and build, on land given, of God, or your holy spirit.
Well whatever....I don't think killing for any reason can and should be justified...but then that's just me..and don't the French occupy most of Quebec...home of the Huron...and tons of other Native heritages...so I hardly think that was a voluntary effort..that's what I am saying...killing and occupation doesn't differ...only the reasons do...and none of them are right....
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frozensolid: First of all the U.S. will do little to stop the Israeli's. Why? Because they support Israel politcally, finacially, and militarily. Second, the U.S. knows that if they ever got into a conflict with Israel they would be reduced to ashes. Israel, probably has the most powerful military on the face of the planet. If they wanted they could bring the U.S. to their knees. They know it and the U.S. knows it. As for the continued attacks in Gaza, the Palestinian population can thank Hamas for these continued attacks. They are the one's putting their own people in harm's way. The Israeli government WILL NEVER allow anyone to jeapordize their way of life again, especially after the Holocaust.
Do you know something that we don't know about Israel's military? Do you they possess some super-weapon?
Otherwise, the above is an amazingly absurd claim. Israel couldn't even take out the Hamas in Lebannon.
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Abram: But it was fun, wasn't it? Don't think my ancestors did in swooping in to kill Mohawk indians, hell, they fought beside them. Trappers, builders, and fighters, since first landing on the shores of America, on one side of the family, and Montreal, Canada on the other side. The key being FIGHTERS, to protect land for the prosperity of all to live, and build, on land given, of God, or your holy spirit.
Wow! that story of colonialism I have never read. Sounds alittle bit more like the Watchtower stories of the Paradise where tigers go jumping and playing with rabbits and children.
Certainly the Aboriginal people from America would tell many stories of that hellish genocide. We have something in common with the Palestinians.
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Tater: Sorry Hugz, it is the true followers of the Koran that do the terror, the one's that claim to be peaceful muslims have their own interpetation of the Koran, but the real Koran tells them to kills everyone that is not muslim, because everyone except muslims are infedils(mis-spelled) The peaceful muslims I like but they are not true Koran beleivers....
I would like you mention in which part of the Koran you ahve written that stuff about killing infidels. And please just a positive answer for the enlightment of everybody. Not storm of insults as other peace-lovers do here.
Thanks.
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Antjo39: I would like you mention in which part of the Koran you ahve written that stuff about killing infidels. And please just a positive answer for the enlightment of everybody. Not storm of insults as other peace-lovers do here.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Sorry I wanted to say "it is written"
The thing it is just to obvious that is not written anywhere (I have read the Koran a few times) but I still want to know if I had missed something.
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Antjo39: Sorry I wanted to say "it is written"
The thing it is just to obvious that is not written anywhere (I have read the Koran a few times) but I still want to know if I had missed something.
The thing it is just to obvious that is not written anywhere (I have read the Koran a few times) but I still want to know if I had missed something.
Well yes...I have read it too..and yes that verse is in there..but like I said..it's no different than the old testament which justifies killing in my opinion.....I have read both the bible and the Koran with an open mind and they are both very similar..soooooooo to criticize one...is to criticize the other...and to justify killing under any verse in either book...is twisting the meaning...the meaning it was meant to have overall...I am not religious,,,but see each book to represent a symbol of peace and love overall....
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I think the pallistenians (?). the same ones thats been lobbing THOUSANDS OF ROCKETS into Israel for the last 8 years... should have thought about that! it sure seems wierd that you seem to completly forget about that, and pretend that Israel is just doing it for no reason at all1. sheeesh!!!
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Hugz_n_Kissez: Well yes...I have read it too..and yes that verse is in there..but like I said..it's no different than the old testament which justifies killing in my opinion.....I have read both the bible and the Koran with an open mind and they are both very similar..soooooooo to criticize one...is to criticize the other...and to justify killing under any verse in either book...is twisting the meaning...the meaning it was meant to have overall...I am not religious,,,but see each book to represent a symbol of peace and love overall....
I do not remember those verses (probably related to the Yihad and with all the figurative language it uses.... and right, as you said very similar to those passages written in the Old Testament) My point is however that those people that dare talking about the Koran want to depict it to other prejudice-burdened fellows as a sort of program of extermination of other religions and peoples.
Hahaha!
People like that must go to the chapters of the first crusades to see the way the European knights and the Vatican Church led an extermination war in which they used the "holy reasons" just to secure the land and wealth they wanted to take from the much more civilised Muslims.
Then the hatred has been escalated and has produced terrible bigots in the Muslim world resembling those that already existed in Europe since the Vatican Church took over the whole continent.
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Antjo39: I do not remember those verses (probably related to the Yihad and with all the figurative language it uses.... and right, as you said very similar to those passages written in the Old Testament) My point is however that those people that dare talking about the Koran want to depict it to other prejudice-burdened fellows as a sort of program of extermination of other religions and peoples.
Hahaha!
People like that must go to the chapters of the first crusades to see the way the European knights and the Vatican Church led an extermination war in which they used the "holy reasons" just to secure the land and wealth they wanted to take from the much more civilised Muslims.
Then the hatred has been escalated and has produced terrible bigots in the Muslim world resembling those that already existed in Europe since the Vatican Church took over the whole continent.
Hahaha!
People like that must go to the chapters of the first crusades to see the way the European knights and the Vatican Church led an extermination war in which they used the "holy reasons" just to secure the land and wealth they wanted to take from the much more civilised Muslims.
Then the hatred has been escalated and has produced terrible bigots in the Muslim world resembling those that already existed in Europe since the Vatican Church took over the whole continent.
Of course is does...anyone who can justify killing through a book is f'd up...I don't see it...never have..otherwise...would it not be a norm of society...if we could kill for the sake of killing or even for land....but hey..I beg to differ...kill at your own peril..and expect the same consequence....
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I think Hamas got what they deserved, they broke the peace then like cowards hid behind civilans like they normally do, I think Israel should take back Gaza so that Hamas cannot use it as a launching point any longer, there will never be peace other wise.
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Hugz_n_Kissez: Of course is does...anyone who can justify killing through a book is f'd up...I don't see it...never have..otherwise...would it not be a norm of society...if we could kill for the sake of killing or even for land....but hey..I beg to differ...kill at your own peril..and expect the same consequence....
And tose that talk all the rubbish of Muslims wanting to kill everybody that is not Muslim must read the history of the genocides in America just to make their minds a little bit broadened. Pizarro, Cortéz, De Soto and all the gang came here because "they had to spread the true word of God" (well some differences between Spanish and English and French, in the case of the latter two, in many cases they just meant to cleanse the planet from the savage and sub humans that inhabited this land called America) They burnt, destroyed and exterminated in the name of that god, but in fact they just wanted the wealth and the power.
What´s is the difference between that pattern and the modern pattern displayed by those who use religion for their goals nowadays? No difference, it is exactly the same. I would like the peace-lovers here could see that, but I know they won´t. They have a different version of history. They can even tell my race that we have been benefited by what happened here (and that we do not understand anything and do not have to look back to retrieve the most important thing we lost:our spirituality) Thank you very much then!!! ( and someone else disagreeing and replying, pleeeeease come up with good arguments, not with the same stuff I have been reading here)
Bye Huggable and kissable baby. Gotta go to bed... too much time wasted.
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romanticman4u: I think Hamas got what they deserved, they broke the peace then like cowards hid behind civilans like they normally do, I think Israel should take back Gaza so that Hamas cannot use it as a launching point any longer, there will never be peace other wise.
Well, they failed in lebanon in 2006 and had to pull out. Let´s see if the good guys do it now.
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Antjo39: And tose that talk all the rubbish of Muslims wanting to kill everybody that is not Muslim must read the history of the genocides in America just to make their minds a little bit broadened. Pizarro, Cortéz, De Soto and all the gang came here because "they had to spread the true word of God" (well some differences between Spanish and English and French, in the case of the latter two, in many cases they just meant to cleanse the planet from the savage and sub humans that inhabited this land called America) They burnt, destroyed and exterminated in the name of that god, but in fact they just wanted the wealth and the power.
What´s is the difference between that pattern and the modern pattern displayed by those who use religion for their goals nowadays? No difference, it is exactly the same. I would like the peace-lovers here could see that, but I know they won´t. They have a different version of history. They can even tell my race that we have been benefited by what happened here (and that we do not understand anything and do not have to look back to retrieve the most important thing we lost:our spirituality) Thank you very much then!!! ( and someone else disagreeing and replying, pleeeeease come up with good arguments, not with the same stuff I have been reading here)
Bye Huggable and kissable baby. Gotta go to bed... too much time wasted.
What´s is the difference between that pattern and the modern pattern displayed by those who use religion for their goals nowadays? No difference, it is exactly the same. I would like the peace-lovers here could see that, but I know they won´t. They have a different version of history. They can even tell my race that we have been benefited by what happened here (and that we do not understand anything and do not have to look back to retrieve the most important thing we lost:our spirituality) Thank you very much then!!! ( and someone else disagreeing and replying, pleeeeease come up with good arguments, not with the same stuff I have been reading here)
Bye Huggable and kissable baby. Gotta go to bed... too much time wasted.
Exactly my point...but nobody seems to see it that wayyyyyyyyy...they want to stay blind...then let them...but don't sit here and justfy to me...killing because one feels superior...that's what it's always been about...throughout history...is that not not right????
Nighty Night...bud....
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well the israelis have got to live somewhere dont they??? unfortunately, for some, their race will never be exterminated........so what do we do?? we must talk about solutions, not who did what, or why.......................for there is no justification for violence.........the only people who use violence,on both sides, cannot think of solutions
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both sides have had terrible tragedy in civilian casualties...
nora83: i do really respect your opinion sir , but its just because you are seeingthe news from only one side of the story , this land is for Palestinian , not Israelis , plus , Hamas are only defending their people , while Israel is the one who keeps on killing kids while going to schools , pregnant women , its Palestinians who has been suffering since 1948 , bcz of the terrorism of Israel , not israel. watch our Tv Sir, not only your , we know how they filter the new for you to keep you simpathy .
y para la personal que vive in Murcia , nosotros vivimos en Espana mas que 800 anos , sin matar personas y hacer lo que Israel estan haciendo ahora , por favor , miralo de nuestra parte tambien .
thank you
both sides have had terrible civilian casualties..........that is not propaganda that is facty para la personal que vive in Murcia , nosotros vivimos en Espana mas que 800 anos , sin matar personas y hacer lo que Israel estan haciendo ahora , por favor , miralo de nuestra parte tambien .
thank you
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Apostophe: So when exactly will the Palistinians get a little corner of their land back and retain some of their dignity?
Here is an answer to your question:
Did you forget that they just got the West Bank Territory back in the last few years? They were given it back by Jews or Zionists for the promise of peace. A great trust and respect was given to their leader. And yet, many(not all though) of those Palestinians in that section are still not satisfied. Their own leader cannot reign in their terrorist factions.
When they all lived together in Gaza, they were killing one another just for belonging to different political factions. When they were killing each other, they weren't bothering Israel but seemed hellbent on obliterating each other. Israel took pity and gave the West Bank to one of the political factions in exchange for peace with them, to have those people live in peace in their own land and also so those Palestinian people would not be anihilated by the other Palestinian faction. How soon those people in the West Bank now forget that their lives were spared by a kind act from those "Zionists." Those Palestinians were being murdered by their own people in Gaza!!!! Did the World forget that their lives were spared from the hands of their own people by the Jews? And Israel is the villain? Where was the outcry from the world against Hamas for obliterating their own Palestinian people? Why was the world so silent with no protests then? If they can't be respectful to each other, there's no way a piece of land is going to retain dignity in a people that isn't there to begin with. They can't live peacefully amongst each other even!
Remove Hamas and the people will have a better chance at living in peace and having their own land and living in peace. But any people that tries to destroy the Jews will bring about their own destruction.
In democracies, one doesn't often see many people getting murdered or executed just for belonging to a different political faction. It would be rather unusual in the U.S. if the republicans, democrats and other political groups went around and killed it's citizens who weren't in their political arena? Republicans shooting and killing democrats to win the vote. Anihilate your competition and their supporters. Political homicide or political holocaust for your opponent. DIGNITY?
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Ambrose2007: Hear, hear!
I'm astounded that so many in the West continue to turn not only a blind eye, but a blind conscience to the atrocities that Israel has committed, as well as to the massive (and undue) influence Israel exercises on US policy.
I'm astounded that so many in the West continue to turn not only a blind eye, but a blind conscience to the atrocities that Israel has committed, as well as to the massive (and undue) influence Israel exercises on US policy.
thanks Mr. Ambrose , its just bcz they are brain-washed , they have been living in peace and secure , they have been living in Democracy , but they have never been under the Israeli raids, their lands have never been takes ,never tasted the flavour of the Israeli terrorism .
thanks for posting
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No I am sorry....I haven't been paid for....and why isn't it the same thing?????
I understand everything you said...I don't have to claim ancestry.,..I am 100% Mohawk...and why is one land occupation any different than than the other?????
How do you know our land wasn't given to us by the Holy spirit...(god) when your ancestors swooped in and stole it...My god I don't think I have ever seen such a hypocritical post...what's good for one is not good for the other I see...Sooooooo no war declared by the Indians of North America...cause that's where you live...although the land was taken no diffently..but hallelujia to anyone else who wants to kill for it..Yeahhhhhhhh that sounds fair......