Conrad73: You forget to mention one thing,same like all the others,THERE WAS NO PALESTINIAN STATE EVER,not prior to 1948. What they got now is about the closest they have gotten. Except they could have a State since 1948,if they hadn't listened to their Arab "Friends" then!
Never toss a fact into a emotionally hate-filled thread. It does no good Conrad.
jaymidlandsxx: ireland was already free from british rule in ww11!!! i dont agree with what israel is doing or agree with hamas, no people should have to live in fear,the people that are suffering the most are innocent civillians on both sides.
26 out of 32 Irish counties are free, forget about the other 6?
arranroot: The Predestines lived there, Israel moved in by force, call it what you will.
Well like I said..what good is that gonna do now to resolve this issue...things have to be put on the table as they are now...and negotiated to both sides walk away happy....you can't turn back history to when things were...you can only work from now and the way things are...So give Palestine it's state...give them the...land they need to exist and sustain it...and go from there...I mean...it's not rocket science....those are the very basic needs of any country or state...greed has no place in the negotiation for peace...of they want an end to this...then they have to do what it takes to put a true end to it...Israel that is...not just hand crumbs as offerings to settle things temporarily...
You're so far off the Beam,you ain't even funny. It is people like you preventing Solutions be found!
are you saying that i am fabricating it , do you know it but you protecting you r side ,or are you disagreeing just for the fun of it ,
Oh my friend if you only traveled and live with people ,and listen to them ,i cant really blame you cause you can only put weight on to what you eat ,you just eating the wrong stuff ,
Jan 4, 2009 7:44 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
outofspacereykjavik, Capital Region Iceland22 Posts
outofspacereykjavik, Capital Region Iceland22 posts
SophieDarin: Just have a look at the Middle east map and tell me pls how much is hebrew land and how much is Arab land.
End of story.
Yes lets have a look at a map of the middle east, and how much land was originally given to the state of Israel. Then lets see how much they have taken by force!
In response to: You forget to mention one thing,same like all the others,THERE WAS NO PALESTINIAN STATE EVER,not prior to 1948. What they got now is about the closest they have gotten.
No capital, no currency, no leader, no government. Just existing on the land with the Jews for thousands of years. Seems like they both have a right to it with neither of them having the right to expel the other.
In response to: Except they could have a State since 1948,if they hadn't listened to their Arab "Friends" then!
Other than Israel, (which by many is considered an enemy) Jordan was the only one to offer them a home. With 'friends' like that, (who treat Palestinians like undesibables) who needs enemies? Fact is, Hamas targets the wrong people. They should be fighting the Lebanese, Egyptians, and Syrians for their rights.
outofspace: Yes lets have a look at a map of the middle east, and how much land was originally given to the state of Israel. Then lets see how much they have taken by force!
thank you for that map link.........it is very interesting to see........i am a jewish woman living in australia, this land grab does not seem right to me..........
Drewski: No capital, no currency, no leader, no government. Just existing on the land with the Jews for thousands of years. Seems like they both have a right to it with neither of them having the right to expel the other. Other than Israel, (which by many is considered an enemy) Jordan was the only one to offer them a home. With 'friends' like that, (who treat Palestinians like undesibables) who needs enemies? Fact is, Hamas targets the wrong people. They should be fighting the Lebanese, Egyptians, and Syrians for their rights.
That's an interesting thought, what brings you to that conclusion? Seriously, I've never seen anyone express this idea.
outofspace: Yes lets have a look at a map of the middle east, and how much land was originally given to the state of Israel. Then lets see how much they have taken by force!
It should be clear that after WWI, both Palestina and Israel received the division of their land by the LEAGUE OF NATIONS and the UNITED NATIONS. But the Arabs always refused this plan. Did Israel expand the borders of the Jewish state beyond those in the UN Partition Plan?? It might have, indeed, but only with the ''help'' of the continuous haressement of this Arab neighbours, for which, I repeat, the word ''negociation'' does not exist, only in the instances when they hijack airplanes!
Jan 4, 2009 8:07 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
outofspacereykjavik, Capital Region Iceland22 Posts
outofspacereykjavik, Capital Region Iceland22 posts
SophieDarin: Palestinian loss???
It should be clear that after WWI, both Palestina and Israel received the division of their land by the LEAGUE OF NATIONS and the UNITED NATIONS. But the Arabs always refused this plan. Did Israel expand the borders of the Jewish state beyond those in the UN Partition Plan?? It might have, indeed, but only with the ''help'' of the continuous haressement of this Arab neighbours, for which, I repeat, the word ''negociation'' does not exist, only in the instances when they hijack airplanes!
In response to: That's an interesting thought, what brings you to that conclusion? Seriously, I've never seen anyone express this idea.
Israel had accepted UN General Assembly Resolution 181, it was the Arab League composed of those countries mentioned above that did not, instead, preferring to cause war to destroy Israel and ultimately create this problem. Even today, they treat Palestinians on their land as fourth class citizens and thereby increase the desperation that makes terrorism, rather than negotiation, the seemingly more viable way to a home.
Israel is not going anywhere, Palestinians are not going anywhere, time and negotiation is needed, not the excess pressure placed on them by so called 'friends.'
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What they got now is about the closest they have gotten.
Except they could have a State since 1948,if they hadn't listened to their Arab "Friends" then!
Never toss a fact into a emotionally hate-filled thread. It does no good Conrad.