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Jan 4, 2009 7:24 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
Conrad73: You forget to mention one thing,same like all the others,THERE WAS NO PALESTINIAN STATE EVER,not prior to 1948.
What they got now is about the closest they have gotten.
Except they could have a State since 1948,if they hadn't listened to their Arab "Friends" then!



Never toss a fact into a emotionally hate-filled thread. It does no good Conrad. professor
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Jan 4, 2009 7:25 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
arranroot
arranrootarranrootAthlone, Westmeath Ireland2 Threads 157 Posts
SophieDarin: Israeli occupation of Palestine??????

Where have u parked your UFO??

The Predestines lived there, Israel moved in by force, call it what you will.
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Jan 4, 2009 7:27 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
arranroot
arranrootarranrootAthlone, Westmeath Ireland2 Threads 157 Posts
jaymidlandsxx: ireland was already free from british rule in ww11!!! i dont agree with what israel is doing or agree with hamas, no people should have to live in fear,the people that are suffering the most are innocent civillians on both sides.

26 out of 32 Irish counties are free, forget about the other 6?
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Jan 4, 2009 7:29 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
bencarter
bencarterbencarterCoimbra, Portugal1 Posts
The problem consists, dear friends, of one word:

ISLAM.
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Jan 4, 2009 7:29 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
SophieDarin
SophieDarinSophieDarinParis, Ile-de-France France89 Posts
arranroot: The Predestines lived there, Israel moved in by force, call it what you will.


Just have a look at the Middle east map and tell me pls how much is hebrew land and how much is Arab land.

End of story.
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Jan 4, 2009 7:39 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
arranroot: The Predestines lived there, Israel moved in by force, call it what you will.



Well like I said..what good is that gonna do now to resolve this issue...things have to be put on the table as they are now...and negotiated to both sides walk away happy....you can't turn back history to when things were...you can only work from now and the way things are...So give Palestine it's state...give them the...land they need to exist and sustain it...and go from there...I mean...it's not rocket science....those are the very basic needs of any country or state...greed has no place in the negotiation for peace...of they want an end to this...then they have to do what it takes to put a true end to it...Israel that is...not just hand crumbs as offerings to settle things temporarily...thumbs up
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Jan 4, 2009 7:40 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
dinncat
dinncatdinncatlimerick, Limerick Ireland15 Threads 183 Posts
You're so far off the Beam,you ain't even funny.
It is people like you preventing Solutions be found!



are you saying that i am fabricating it , do you know it but you protecting you r side ,or are you disagreeing just for the fun of it ,

Oh my friend if you only traveled and live with people ,and listen to them ,i cant really blame you cause you can only put weight on to what you eat ,you just eating the wrong stuff ,
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Jan 4, 2009 7:44 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
outofspace
outofspaceoutofspacereykjavik, Capital Region Iceland22 Posts
SophieDarin: Just have a look at the Middle east map and tell me pls how much is hebrew land and how much is Arab land.

End of story.


Yes lets have a look at a map of the middle east, and how much land was originally given to the state of Israel. Then lets see how much they have taken by force!

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Jan 4, 2009 7:47 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
Drewski
DrewskiDrewskiOlds, Alberta Canada9 Threads 343 Posts
In response to: You forget to mention one thing,same like all the others,THERE WAS NO PALESTINIAN STATE EVER,not prior to 1948.
What they got now is about the closest they have gotten.


No capital, no currency, no leader, no government. Just existing on the land with the Jews for thousands of years. Seems like they both have a right to it with neither of them having the right to expel the other.

In response to: Except they could have a State since 1948,if they hadn't listened to their Arab "Friends" then!


Other than Israel, (which by many is considered an enemy) Jordan was the only one to offer them a home. With 'friends' like that, (who treat Palestinians like undesibables) who needs enemies? Fact is, Hamas targets the wrong people. They should be fighting the Lebanese, Egyptians, and Syrians for their rights.
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Jan 4, 2009 7:47 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
dinncat
dinncatdinncatlimerick, Limerick Ireland15 Threads 183 Posts
The problem consists, dear friends, of one word:

ISLAM.


Oops , you are bursting , whats the problem ,what do you know about ISLAM ,and whats ISLAM got to do with any thing can you explain what you mean ,
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Jan 4, 2009 7:50 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
outofspace: Yes lets have a look at a map of the middle east, and how much land was originally given to the state of Israel. Then lets see how much they have taken by force!

thank you for that map link.........it is very interesting to see........i am a jewish woman living in australia, this land grab does not seem right to me..........
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Jan 4, 2009 7:51 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
Sparky55
Sparky55Sparky55Somewhere, Afghanistan48 Threads 1 Polls 2,678 Posts
Drewski: No capital, no currency, no leader, no government. Just existing on the land with the Jews for thousands of years. Seems like they both have a right to it with neither of them having the right to expel the other.
Other than Israel, (which by many is considered an enemy) Jordan was the only one to offer them a home. With 'friends' like that, (who treat Palestinians like undesibables) who needs enemies? Fact is, Hamas targets the wrong people. They should be fighting the Lebanese, Egyptians, and Syrians for their rights.


That's an interesting thought, what brings you to that conclusion? Seriously, I've never seen anyone express this idea.
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Jan 4, 2009 7:52 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
i will plead again can we all please stick to the facts............i know its hard but try and please take the emotion out of this debate
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Jan 4, 2009 7:58 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
outofspace
outofspaceoutofspacereykjavik, Capital Region Iceland22 Posts
I'm glad you could finally get to see it rocketqueen, sorry about the link not working.

You might also like to know that the Israeli government is imprisoning its own children for refusing to fight. barf
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Jan 4, 2009 7:59 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
SophieDarin
SophieDarinSophieDarinParis, Ile-de-France France89 Posts
outofspace: Yes lets have a look at a map of the middle east, and how much land was originally given to the state of Israel. Then lets see how much they have taken by force!



rolling on the floor laughing Palestinian loss???

It should be clear that after WWI, both Palestina and Israel received the division of their land by the LEAGUE OF NATIONS and the UNITED NATIONS. But the Arabs always refused this plan.
Did Israel expand the borders of the Jewish state beyond those in the UN Partition Plan?? It might have, indeed, but only with the ''help'' of the continuous haressement of this Arab neighbours, for which, I repeat, the word ''negociation'' does not exist, only in the instances when they hijack airplanes!
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Jan 4, 2009 8:07 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
outofspace
outofspaceoutofspacereykjavik, Capital Region Iceland22 Posts
SophieDarin: Palestinian loss???

It should be clear that after WWI, both Palestina and Israel received the division of their land by the LEAGUE OF NATIONS and the UNITED NATIONS. But the Arabs always refused this plan.
Did Israel expand the borders of the Jewish state beyond those in the UN Partition Plan?? It might have, indeed, but only with the ''help'' of the continuous haressement of this Arab neighbours, for which, I repeat, the word ''negociation'' does not exist, only in the instances when they hijack airplanes!


Listen to the children of Israel, they understand



Did you sign the letter?
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Jan 4, 2009 8:08 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
SophieDarin
SophieDarinSophieDarinParis, Ile-de-France France89 Posts
outofspace: I'm glad you could finally get to see it rocketqueen, sorry about the link not working.

You might also like to know that the Israeli government is imprisoning its own children for refusing to fight.



I do not know...it is for the first time I hear that.

Where do you have this piece of info from?
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Jan 4, 2009 8:09 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
outofspace: I'm glad you could finally get to see it rocketqueen, sorry about the link not working.

You might also like to know that the Israeli government is imprisoning its own children for refusing to fight.



It worked for me and offers a lot of perspective...thanx...they don't even have enough land to breath...the Palestinians that is...wave wink thumbs up
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Jan 4, 2009 8:09 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: It worked for me and offers a lot of perspective...thanx...they don't even have enough land to breath...the Palestinians that is...



Let alone exist....thumbs up
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Jan 4, 2009 8:11 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
Drewski
DrewskiDrewskiOlds, Alberta Canada9 Threads 343 Posts
Sparky
In response to: That's an interesting thought, what brings you to that conclusion? Seriously, I've never seen anyone express this idea.


Israel had accepted UN General Assembly Resolution 181, it was the Arab League composed of those countries mentioned above that did not, instead, preferring to cause war to destroy Israel and ultimately create this problem. Even today, they treat Palestinians on their land as fourth class citizens and thereby increase the desperation that makes terrorism, rather than negotiation, the seemingly more viable way to a home.

Israel is not going anywhere, Palestinians are not going anywhere, time and negotiation is needed, not the excess pressure placed on them by so called 'friends.'
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