RE: Why do people go on dateing sites when they don,t really want to date?

This isn't just a dating site.

That's why there are options for friends, talk, email, penpal, etc.

Just sayin'.

RE: comments welcome...

I saw one recently somewhere else...FurtiveEmu. laugh

RE: illegal legal !!

I guess it's a good way to identify people.

If an illegal immigrant applies for and receives a driver's licence, they're no longer completely underground.

Perhaps it's rather cunning. dunno

RE: Have journalist and cartoonists the right to critisize religion.???

You're having your mum gender realigned?

RE: Have journalist and cartoonists the right to critisize religion.???

I've not seen the content of his work, so I couldn't judge.

I was more referring to your two questions in your title and OP, as well as Sannu's contributions.

Both seem to have strong convictions and both are perhaps contentious. For me, it is action which is in question.

Freedom of expression (a perhaps more inclusive term than freedom of speech) for me would not include violence unless it could be justified with self-defence (unlikely to be the case in this instance).

Freedom of expression which incites, or may incite harm to others is possible with satire, cartoons and journalism.

If we have two sides, both of who have strong convictions are being contentious, then perhaps the best recourse is negotiation and compromise, not violence, stubbornness and hatred from either side. dunno

RE: Have journalist and cartoonists the right to critisize religion.???

Go ahead if you feel it can't be discussed here.

There are 1,000 posts available here, however. I doubt this thread will run out of space if it were to be discussed here...and you did raise the subject of conviction and contention in your posts here. dunno

RE: Have journalist and cartoonists the right to critisize religion.???

So were the gunmen, I imagine.

That's why I was confused about your second paragraph. Conviction of any extreme may be contentious, sometimes in a positive way, sometimes not.

Conviction in itself, doesn't make action right, or ethical.

RE: Have journalist and cartoonists the right to critisize religion.???

Yes, I'm quite sure.

RE: Have journalist and cartoonists the right to critisize religion.???

Thank you, Chris.

I'd also like to know to whom Sannu was referring when she said...

RE: Have journalist and cartoonists the right to critisize religion.???

I was asking you, as you post could be interpreted in more than one way without clarification.

RE: Have journalist and cartoonists the right to critisize religion.???

Islam is no more, or less a terrorist cult than Christianity.

Peoples have used both religions as a carriage for unethical behaviour and peoples of both religions are peaceable.

To think otherwise is just a tad ignorant.

RE: Have journalist and cartoonists the right to critisize religion.???

Could you clarify for me please, Sannu?

Who was prepared to die for what he believed in and which people are relentless and never give up?

RE: Have journalist and cartoonists the right to critisize religion.???

With free speech comes responsibility.

I don't think people do have the right to incite hatred, or harm to others, but yes, diplomacy, or legal means would be the way to object in my opinion.

RE: Have journalist and cartoonists the right to critisize religion.???

Without knowing the details, it doesn't look likely that the gunmen were in a position of self-defence, ergo the killings are not likely to be justifiable in my opinion.

As for your title question, it would depend upon the content of the material whether journalists and cartoonists have a right to criticise religion. If the material is propaganda, inciting hatred, or action to harm, then no, I'd say they don't have a right to do that.

If we were to look at WWII propaganda, journalism and cartoon images, I wonder how it would compare to current material.

I'm not sure we can just sit back and claim satire is always okay because we're the goodies and they're the baddies.

RE: Pants on fire?

As I understand, Shakespeare was a shocking liar.

Apparently, his stuff was just made up. dunno

RE: Cats

Embedded image from another site

RE: suggestions please

Put him in a shoe box, wrap him up in brown paper, put my address and a stamp on him...

...and I'll patch him up for you.

RE: Men - Would you keep dating a woman who won't let you touch her hair?

DJ old chap, you look jolly dapper in a DJ, I must say. smitten

RE: Death Penalty? Yes or No?

If you have moral, ethical, or practical arguments for, or against the death penalty, or any other penalty, then surely you must consider the moral, ethical, or practical issues of the crimes themselves, particularly in the case of mandatory sentencing.

As I understand it, execution is recorded as homicide on death certificates. What makes one homicide acceptable and another not?

RE: Death Penalty? Yes or No?

Thank you for the link, Guz.

I misunderstood the shortage issue.

I found the anaesthesia being used for caesarian sections interesting. I know someone who felt everything even though she was unconscious, as I did having a spinal anaesthetic. As I understand it, the realisation that some people feel everything under anaesthetic is currently being researched.

The wiki article also pointed to executed prisoners having too low a dose of the drug in their system to achieve unconsciousness. Given it only lasts for 5-10 minutes, I think it said, there seems to be a lot of room for error. dunno

RE: Death Penalty? Yes or No?

Your critique is about me, not my argument. tip hat

RE: Death Penalty? Yes or No?

So, you don't think a gas engineer who made a mistake should be treated differently from someone who deliberately caused an explosion with the aim to maim and kill?

Human error should perhaps carry mandatory whole life tariffs?

RE: Death Penalty? Yes or No?

What was the cause?

Negligence?

Deliberate?

Sanctioned as in the case of war, or not sanctioned?

RE: Death Penalty? Yes or No?

Why do you think indefinite detention is not a viable alternative?

RE: Death Penalty? Yes or No?

Or it disables someone from expressing the pain caused.

Why this particular drug to 'anaesthetise'?

It's not used for medical anaesthesia and medical anaesthesia is not used for executions. dunno

RE: Death Penalty? Yes or No?

You'd get that with indefinite imprisonment, but there would be avenues left for review.

The thing about a whole life tariff is there's no such re-evaluation process in place.

I kind of think a whole life tariff is more about retribution that protection of the public.

RE: Death Penalty? Yes or No?

I think there has been a wee bit of controversy about whether it is a painless and humane form of execution, or actually quite the opposite.

I wonder why a cocktail of three injections is required and why those particular drugs.

RE: Death Penalty? Yes or No?

I'll come back to this when my granddaughter isn't having a tantrum in my ear.

RE: Sad

And you, Pete. reunion

RE: Sad

Errr...sad, lonely tossers...? giggle

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