Both interdependence and independence are valuable, achievable, and apparent in the world around us.
Economies are very much interdependent in the main...if one goes down, we all suffer. And globalisation really has got just about every major economy tied into agreements and treaties.
So interdependence is very much alive.
But on the same token, national, racial and cultural independence has never been more evident.
Just look at how many new countries have popped up onto our maps over the last 20 years alone!
Along with this, ethnic cleansing and genocides have been commited in the name of maintaining national 'purity' and identity.
So there again, it's very much active.
Within a relationship? Two unique, sentient beings coming together as COMPLEMENTS of one another, depending upon eachother for emotional and physical needs among others, would naturally seek agreement on most issues, while delighting one another with personal expression unique to just one person.
Independence spices things up...and indeed, a vibrant intellect could surely never be tamed within a loving relationship!
The family? I've seen unhealthy interdependence, and experienced it. So, that's how I've reasoned to the point of settling upon the principles outlined above.
The family is the bedrock of healthy community, but an individuals expressive needs and general development into a healthy, happy person is paramount to their contribution to family and society in general.
Closed minds? Again, I feel you're tarnishing all with the same, grubby brush.
How do you justify your observations in view of the fact that there are many scientists, and Quantum Mechanics who profess a belief in there being a 'God'?
Indeed, Isaac Newton, one of the greatest minds of all time, was a professed believer in there being a Creator.
Al, Christianity, or any form of Deity obeisance doesn't preclude there being an inquiring and open mind along with it.
'Faith is the assured expectation of realities, though not yet beheld.'
There, that's the gist of the way the bible itself describes the faith it's on about.
I'm finding myself believing more and more in the liklihood of there being a God. And Al, I'm still hellishly curious about this universe, and will always adore science and a lil 'light' philosophy.
Open mind? Yup...I do my best Al, and I'm not afraid to challenge myself either.
I'm just glad I have the choice...and the complete free will to make whichever choice I like.
The scientist has faith also...hopefully expecting to find out the secrets of the universe.
It's no different Al
We, as humans, don't know diddly squat. We get all arrogant and have these lofty ideas we do, but in reality, we're just realising the enormity of what's out there.
You believe in the stars Al? Anything set in stone there?
I drive a '98 SEAT Toledo 2.3 V5. Great car...super flexible engine. It's basically a Volkswagen Bora with an Audi A3 interior...so it's got lots of quality.
Dream car? Either a Series II XJ saloon...such a gorgeously proportioned shape, or maybe a Citroen SM.
Actually, the new Citroen C6 is just as stunning...a true French beauty.
Absolutism...or were does common sense come in to play.
Ray, this is my understanding of some things you were alluding to in your OP.
If somebody was attacking me or my future family, I'd defend myself and them with reasonable force. That's just common sense.
In turning the other cheek, I'd be allowing verbal insults to pass me by without retaliating in like manner.
As for the value of human life, and killing...Ray, human life IS sacred.
So, I'd do my level best to not put myself in a position were I could cause harm to another person. And that included a refusal to fight in ANY war, or bear arms in any capacity.
Also, for instance, I'd make sure my driving is up to standard.
You get the picture.
There are VERY few moral absolutes. I like to think of them as moral PRINCIPLES in any case...as it allows for a different method of acheiving the same aim for each person.
Less rigid...more reasonable...and requiring a deeper understanding of the REASONS for such statements.
Eistein hated Quantum Mechanics when it was first revealed to him and his fraternity...he viewed it as scientific heresy and refused, for many years, to accept it's legitimacy!
It was only Rutherford, Bohr and Diraq's persistent brilliance that wone the day.
Also, what Al says about pooling knowledge...spot on.
We have vast amounts of data which has yet to become information because we simply don't know how to understand it, and it's relationship to what surrounds us.
If you think back to the great minds of antiquity, Pythagorus, Da Vinci, Hooke, and especially Newton, they based their enormous and startling insights upon very little...but they understood what it meant in relation to various relevant factors.
Ummm...in no way do I believe we are a figment of any imagination.
I believe in some form of general reality!
And as far as your thoughts on relating to attractive energy fields of another person...well, that's one way of looking at it that's as reasonable as many others!
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RE: Independence or Interdependence?
Both interdependence and independence are valuable, achievable, and apparent in the world around us.Economies are very much interdependent in the main...if one goes down, we all suffer. And globalisation really has got just about every major economy tied into agreements and treaties.
So interdependence is very much alive.
But on the same token, national, racial and cultural independence has never been more evident.
Just look at how many new countries have popped up onto our maps over the last 20 years alone!
Along with this, ethnic cleansing and genocides have been commited in the name of maintaining national 'purity' and identity.
So there again, it's very much active.
Within a relationship? Two unique, sentient beings coming together as COMPLEMENTS of one another, depending upon eachother for emotional and physical needs among others, would naturally seek agreement on most issues, while delighting one another with personal expression unique to just one person.
Independence spices things up...and indeed, a vibrant intellect could surely never be tamed within a loving relationship!
The family? I've seen unhealthy interdependence, and experienced it. So, that's how I've reasoned to the point of settling upon the principles outlined above.
The family is the bedrock of healthy community, but an individuals expressive needs and general development into a healthy, happy person is paramount to their contribution to family and society in general.
Enough...head hurts!