An Eye For An Eye?

Does a man deserve to live after he had purposely and intentionally killed another man? I hear this nonsense all the time about his constitutional right to live but what about the rights of the person he had killed?dunno

I believe that every person has the right to live and therefore has the right to defend his own life; or the life of another, providing that he does not use excessive force. professor

Killing somebody by negligence and/or recklessness should be heavily punished according to the circumstances. We cannot claim an accident if we were reckless or negligent.scold

I don’t believe that crimes of passion or things done on the spur of the moment are any different than any other crime. If you have intended to kill at the time, you should pay for that crime.

To me attempted murder is no different than murder. Doing a bad job is no mitigation. It is the intent that matters; not the result. doh

No, I don’t think a man deserves the right to live if he had willfully killed another; no matter what the reason. He had forfeited that right when he took it away from another.
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May you have a wonderful Wednesday.wave
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Hi Mr Cat, I ain't a judge and I am only thankful for that. And they call it capital punishment yet I don't who is capitalising on what.dunno
Hi Boggie
So say I too. take the whole bock and tackle.scold
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Hi Wht
Yes, or banks are robbed using AK47s. A legacy from the illegal weapon ANC arms caches during the apartheid years. There is no telling how many are still around.
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Hi Usha
Often the only capital involved is the bit of money the victim had in his pocket. People are killed for the price of a bottle of beer.frustrated \
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mclee. is that M60 or do you mean M16.

while, I dont know if you know. but an AK47. is a very strong and reliable weapon. you can put it underneath the ground, and it will hardly rust.
also, quite light.


Ok, havent tried out the modern weapons.
Its a bout fed fully automatic, isnt it.
I know Mr. Cat, I have been robbed at my own home many times. (In Africa)We pay foreign security companies whole lot of money to protect us, but often they fail. Those Mozambiqan guns are all over. I have seen them pointed right at me. You only have to give them everything. Atleast if they don't touch us and spare our lives, everything seems nothing. cheers
Hi Usha
Often they are not satisfied with what you have to give. Killing had become part of the culture. A dead man cannot identify you later.
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usha, ye, those days of keeping you alive are gone.

now, they shoot you dead, just for fun.

those m16s are horrible. they rip half your body apart.

dont want to think what a m60 can do.
Hi Gloss
Here a life is worth much less. People are killed for much less.

Six months ago a woman stabbed and killed her husband after an argument while he was asleep. She had enough time to think about her deed. It was not spur of the moment. Yet she is walking around as if nothing happened and it probably won't even go to trial. frustrated
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Hi 12121
There is nothing I can add to your comment; I can only endorse it.
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Cat, I don't believe in 'an eye for an eye'

In some countries, someone could still be stoned to death if they suspect they're dishonoring their family...honor killings! A very very sensitive issue but people talk that it is still happening, the murderer gets away for protecting 'family's honor' doh:
Honor killings & such...refer to "Gun Control..." a few posts previous. devil wave.......... angel
Niclee
Ironic but true. I always thought the law was to protect the victims and the innocent but is seems that it was designed to protect the criminals.doh
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Hi Cat, wave there are some people who frighten me. People, who enjoy causing pain, maiming, raping and killing others. If someone is 100% found guilt of any of these, good riddance. uh oh
Hi KN
There I agree. The key is proven guilt. You cannot execute a man on a verdict of beyond reasonable doubt.
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Wht
Exactly, not what prevents him from getting another anxiety attack and shoot another girlfriend?doh
Glos
I don't know the particulars of the case but I can tell you the were both drunk. dunno
Cat Surely with the overcrowding in Jails and the huge cost to the Taxpayer of keeping people in Jail, how come murderers are getting off on a point of law? or as you say because they were underpriviledged, and how do you arrive at that ? Nobody had money here growing up in the 50s.I had no pocket money, no fancy clothes, never went to hairdressers growing up. We didnot have a Fridge until I was nearly a teenager. Alot of Manslaughter here is Drink fuelled but it has to be in you Sober, to come out when you are Drunk, I cannot in honesty agree with the Death penalty but I would like to see some serious Evil [not insane] people put away for our safety. Be safe !
Gloss: About police response time - When seconds count the police are mere minutes (or in your case, hours) away. laugh See previous post - Anyone worth shooting is worth shooting twice! devil wave ..........angel
Hi aRrAe
Yes, I thought about it a lot. In fact, when you live in a country where almost sixty murders are committed every day, as I live in, there is very little else you think of.

And yes, I have raised two daughters but I fail to see how it relates to this blog other than that they are also potential victims.

Look at it this way.
Case one.
A guy shoots his victim with the intend to kill but unknowingly only wounds him seriously and him and leave him to die. But the person does not die and identifies his assailant.
Case 2
A guy plans to murder somebody and goes about doing it but the gun misfires when he tries to execute his victim. He is the overpowered by bystanders.

In both cases there was the intent and the attempt to murder. They should be tried for murder. Doing a bad job is not mitigation. He tried to kill somebody and if not taken out of society is capable of doing it again.
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Gloss
Our jails are overfull and even convicted murderers are back on the street within two or three years.frustrated

And how do you tell the difference between the evil and the insane. We all have a bit of insanity in us.
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Miclee
I was taught not to take a firearm out if you are not going to use it. And if shooting in the leg is enough then your life was not in danger and the gun was not needed in the first place. However, if your life is in danger then a second in the chest makes perfectly sense.
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Firearm - never go for it if you don't intend to use it! You couldn't be more right, Cat! I know a prior MP (That's Military Police, not Member of Parliament laugh ) He was taught exactly - and emphatically - the same thing. professor
Miclee
That is exactly where I was taught that. In the military, but I was not in the Military Police.
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I knew two women once - lived way back in the boonies. Their place got broken into & after that they didn't feel quite safe. Asked advice on home protection. FIRST - get trained in using an arm. My recommendation? A dog & a pump shotgun. If an intruder hears a barking dog & a shotgun action being racked, & still tries to get in, he's likely demented & you'll hafta..."Choot Em!" devilwave ..........angel
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I wont make so much noise. I will let them believe it is save. Otherwise the come back when I'm not there.doh
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Hi Cat,
I do think an eye for eye is appropriate but I think if the death is accidental then a little leeway must be given.
Hope you had a great day! kiss
Hi Shay
For sure. If it was purely accidental with no negligence or recklessness he should not be punished at all. And if he was negligent or reckless then he should be punished according to the degree of it. However, if the intent was to kill there should be no mercy. Whether it was premeditated or not.
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@cat,
Yes that is true. Happy you agree! teddybear
laugh I can't debate your logic, there, Cat! After devilwave ..........angel You wouldn't hafta worry about em coming back, I reckon, guess & calculate!
Shay,
My beef is with people who kill people on purpose or by gross negligence or recklessness.

Sometimes the victim in a homicide is the cause of his own death. Like in hunting accidents when the victim is not where he should be or a drunk person just walking straight if front of your car leaving you no time to stop.
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Miclee
Here they are so arrogant the always come back. You have to stop them first time.
mumbling grin doh
I once saw a sign posted just inside a door..."The door you just broke through was locked for YOUR protection, not Mine." Should someone break & enter, it'd give em something to think about. wow confused blues .....laugh
There was a sign on a door saying. If you break in here, Jesus will get you. The sign did not mention that Jesus was the doberman's name. Unpleasant surprises await the unbelievers.
@Mic,
Love that sign!rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
@ Miclee;.............. giggle
Shay,
There are many evil people on this planet who don't not deserve to be walking around freely but that is the system we live in. A legal system that is an advantage to the criminals in stead of the victims.frustrated
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Hi Angelwave
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