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Jun 25, 2016 6:30 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
TheRedSquirrel87
TheRedSquirrel87TheRedSquirrel87Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK1 Threads 1,107 Posts
purr4mance: sure they'll trade with you but there will be tariffs if agreements are not made within 2 years or without extensions. there are rules that will have to be followed and i'm sure the brits signed on the dotted line and agreed to the potential tariffs when they originally signed into the eu

perhaps if the whole eu falls apart there may be a case for disregard of the rule book.


2 years of uncertainty followed by 2 or more years of revenge from the EU. That's what I predict before the benefits of leaving begin to outweigh the costs.

Anyone else deciding to leave will experience less uncertainty and suffer less revenge. It's easier to follow a trend than to set a trend.
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Jun 25, 2016 6:36 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
purr4mance
purr4mancepurr4manceCleveland, Ohio USA4,825 Posts
TheRedSquirrel87: 2 years of uncertainty followed by 2 or more years of revenge from the EU. That's what I predict before the benefits of leaving begin to outweigh the costs.

Anyone else deciding to leave will experience less uncertainty and suffer less revenge. It's easier to follow a trend than to set a trend.


you guys plan on putting up any walls along the way ? laugh
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Jun 25, 2016 6:53 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
TheRedSquirrel87
TheRedSquirrel87TheRedSquirrel87Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK1 Threads 1,107 Posts
purr4mance: you guys plan on putting up any walls along the way ?


Too continental for our taste. We may build one between us and the orc-ridden Scotland-fail of tomorrow. When they experience the ethnics, and after they've run out of veins to inject heroin into, the Scots will flood to England.
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Jun 25, 2016 7:06 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
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Jun 25, 2016 8:08 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
TheRedSquirrel87
TheRedSquirrel87TheRedSquirrel87Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK1 Threads 1,107 Posts
TheRedSquirrel87: I mean serfs in the 13th century had virtually no knowledge of Black people and it was usual to hate familiars more than anything exotic: Similar to the modern politically correct white person from a leafy suburb who disparages kin and loves the foreign he knows next to nothing about. He has the same values the serf once did. Yet the English working class have the attitudes on race more like England had at its greatest.


And if you consider the sandal-wearing suburbs and metropolitan enclaves as self-contained fiefdoms in themselves. Which in many respects they are. Then this even more closely resembles medieval life. Narrow clans which directs all hate and malice towards familiar neighbours and as such have a more positive attitude towards far-away exotics.

And at the peak of English civilisation came Charles Dickens: the man who in the novel Bleak House gave the bourgeoisie a panning for interesting itself with the welfare of foreigners more than the English. The book is the story of a mother so obsessed with a tribe in Africa she neglects her own kids - this could be an analogy of the baby boomers.
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Jun 25, 2016 8:11 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
stringman: Britain was prophetic in the bible on splitting from EU.

this is the video. worth watching.


Does the Bible say anything about the global markets?




coffee
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Jun 25, 2016 8:21 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
ziggy67: Your post a bit like the people who voted leave.

Can not read of write properly and ticked the wrong box.

Don't worry , when you are claiming your benefits i am sure
their will be a course they can put you on to help.


There is nothing wrong (or not as much) about Brexit when done for

the right reasons
at the right time



cool
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Jun 25, 2016 8:39 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
KremaP
KremaPKremaPAt home, Shumen Bulgaria3,793 Posts
Nobody said it will be easy but the British people made a life changing move (well, the brave ones)...
Those who have it easy and live far from the reality will keep on whining of course.
Immigrants seem to be the angriest with the vote results, London wants to declare independence laugh Are there any Brits left in London at all, who wants to make decisions for the natives?! The foreigners?!
I read today about a British family in France, great life, massive house, swimming pool, space and freedom for a fraction of the price... So this family is in panic because they are "terrified" to return to UK...why? How can you say living in UK is terrifying for you but fine for the fellow Brits living in their own country???
Brexit will beneficial for the whole EU, it anyway needed a total makeover...
Next, nanny Merkel needs to retire... cheers
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Jun 25, 2016 8:39 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
TheRedSquirrel87
TheRedSquirrel87TheRedSquirrel87Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK1 Threads 1,107 Posts
rizlared: Why should anyone trust you? You live in Norfolk FFS!!!

Boris will get the whole thing finailised in a matter of weeks, and then the real celebrations will begin, starting with waving goodbye to those north of border.

The savings from the getting rid of Scotland/EU will pay for a wonderful future for England and Britain.

I may even return to the UK myself!!


Feigned optimism made sense before the vote when trying to get people to vote for something scary. Lying to people about the difficulty at this stage is a bad idea and acting like a Scotland leaving and failing north of the border would be to our benefit is also bad.

The salesmen act needs to give way to common sense if we are to make good on this opportunity.
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Jun 25, 2016 8:44 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Scotland and London voted in, but were pulled out by Wales and the rest of England.

Who voted for Brexit?
..pensioners overwhelmingly backed Brexit , while the younger generation tried in vain to save the country’s EU membership.

.. 75% of voters aged 18 to 24 plumped for Remain.

Why did they voted Brexit?

Make you own conclusions and if any one thinks that Brexit does not affect the whole world is rather uninformed or naïve or both.

Just remember "divide and conquer" and that still is in effect.


coffee <- good coffee.
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Jun 25, 2016 8:48 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
TheRedSquirrel87
TheRedSquirrel87TheRedSquirrel87Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK1 Threads 1,107 Posts
TheRedSquirrel87: Feigned optimism made sense before the vote when trying to get people to vote for something scary. Lying to people about the difficulty at this stage is a bad idea and acting like a Scotland leaving and failing north of the border would be to our benefit is also bad.

The salesmen act needs to give way to common sense if we are to make good on this opportunity.


The success of the white man in the far east is often nothing more than a giant confidence trick, all the white man often needs is an unwarranted sense of confidence and the Orientals will put up with anything; spin, lie, tell them whatever you want and treat them with no respect - they'll forgive and forget(at least for now).

The English won't forgive and forget being told it'll all be gravy when it won't. We will stick to keep calm and carry on which doesn't deny the gravity of the task at hand.
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Jun 25, 2016 8:52 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
KremaP
KremaPKremaPAt home, Shumen Bulgaria3,793 Posts
lifeisadream: Scotland and London voted in, but were pulled out by Wales and the rest of England.

Who voted for Brexit?
..pensioners overwhelmingly backed Brexit , while the younger generation tried in vain to save the country’s EU membership.

.. 75% of voters aged 18 to 24 plumped for Remain.

Why did they voted Brexit?

Make you own conclusions and if any one thinks that Brexit does not affect the whole world is rather uninformed or naïve or both.

Just remember "divide and conquer" and that still is in effect. <- good coffee.












18 to 24...
Young people who have not contributed in any way to the system they enjoy so much, the freedom to be lazy and spoiled comes with a price...
Of course they will want to be in, easier than building an independent future...
They have no respect for those who made this country Great.
Consumerism is a priority for them...
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Jun 25, 2016 9:03 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
yubba
yubbayubbaCaspe, Aragon Spain11 Threads 1,962 Posts
KremaP: 18 to 24...
Young people who have not contributed in any way to the system they enjoy so much, the freedom to be lazy and spoiled comes with a price...
Of course they will want to be in, easier than building an independent future...
They have no respect for those who made this country Great.
Consumerism is a priority for them...

.
Is it their fault Krema?, don't you think that the last 3 generations have failed their children, failed the State and failed themselves?. I have been told it's difficult to find an English person in London, l also know that we would never employ an English person to do anything. The first hurdle would be to find one that actually wants to work.
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Jun 25, 2016 9:09 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
KremaP: 18 to 24...
They have no respect for those who made this country Great.
Consumerism is a priority for them...

First, generalizations are for uninformed people.

KremaP: 18 to 24...
Young people who have not contributed in any way to the system they enjoy so much, the freedom to be lazy and spoiled comes with a price...
Of course they will want to be in, easier than building an independent future...

18 to 24
(This is ussually the time for people to get an education)

"(in the UK) At the end of 2013, 3.03 million (42%) people aged 16 to 24 were in full-time education, up from 1.42 million (17%) in 1984."

And I wish that number were even higher but many can not afford education and have to work in low skilled-low pay jobs.

also:
United Kingdom Demographics Profile 2014
Dependency ratios
youth dependency ratio: 27.2 %
elderly dependency ratio: 27.6 %



coffee
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Jun 25, 2016 9:17 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
KremaP
KremaPKremaPAt home, Shumen Bulgaria3,793 Posts
yubba: .
Is it their fault Krema?, don't you think that the last 3 generations have failed their children, failed the State and failed themselves?. I have been told it's difficult to find an English person in London, l also know that we would never employ an English person to do anything. The first hurdle would be to find one that actually wants to work.






I didn't mean it's their fault Yubba,
I know it's not...
The a change has to be made and urgently.
I have heard lot's of BS about Brits being lazy and they need all this foreigners but the truth is that I know so many Brits struggling to find jobs because most companies want only foreigners and get lot's of money to do so...
We were offered 70£ per week per person if we employ Polish...
Of course we didn't...but it was such an arrogant, discriminatory act, it made me sick.
My ex have been filling applications for months with no result, believe it or not on 24-th he got two calls for interview at once...
What does it says?!
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Jun 25, 2016 9:22 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
KremaP
KremaPKremaPAt home, Shumen Bulgaria3,793 Posts
lifeisadream: First, generalizations are for uninformed people.18 to 24
(This is ussually the time for people to get an education)

"(in the UK) At the end of 2013, 3.03 million (42%) people aged 16 to 24 were in full-time education, up from 1.42 million (17%) in 1984."

And I wish that number were even higher but many can not afford education and have to work in low skilled-low pay jobs.

also:
United Kingdom Demographics Profile 2014
Dependency ratios
youth dependency ratio: 27.2 %
elderly dependency ratio: 27.6 %






Well, Life,
we had a conversation about the "useless" degrees some time ago...
Everyone is a "manager" in UK, it has become ridiculous...
I know you like to throw some internet info as a "knowledge" but in real life it's a bit different, trust me...
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Jun 25, 2016 9:26 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
FRANKLIN GRAHAM: U.K. VOTE DEALS BLOW TO '1-WORLD GOVERNMENT'
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Jun 25, 2016 9:27 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
TheRedSquirrel87
TheRedSquirrel87TheRedSquirrel87Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK1 Threads 1,107 Posts
TheRedSquirrel87: The success of the white man in the far east is often nothing more than a giant confidence trick, all the white man often needs is an unwarranted sense of confidence and the Orientals will put up with anything; spin, lie, tell them whatever you want and treat them with no respect - they'll forgive and forget(at least for now).

The English won't forgive and forget being told it'll all be gravy when it won't. We will stick to keep calm and carry on which doesn't deny the gravity of the task at hand.
TheRedSquirrel87: The success of the white man in the far east is often nothing more than a giant confidence trick, all the white man often needs is an unwarranted sense of confidence and the Orientals will put up with anything; spin, lie, tell them whatever you want and treat them with no respect - they'll forgive and forget(at least for now).

The English won't forgive and forget being told it'll all be gravy when it won't. We will stick to keep calm and carry on which doesn't deny the gravity of the task at hand.


The truth is that the next 5 years will be more difficult than the last, and if they're not, it will be because we've fostered bubbles in the meantime which don't burst until 2023.

We have to watch Brexit politicians now for forming bubbles. The salesmen side of the campaign with its feigned optimism and lying liars are likely to do anything, no matter how daft, to acquire short term economic success in order to disguise from the public the economic cost of Brexit.
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Jun 25, 2016 9:29 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
yubba
yubbayubbaCaspe, Aragon Spain11 Threads 1,962 Posts
KremaP: I didn't mean it's their fault Yubba,
I know it's not...
The a change has to be made and urgently.
I have heard lot's of BS about Brits being lazy and they need all this foreigners but the truth is that I know so many Brits struggling to find jobs because most companies want only foreigners and get lot's of money to do so...
We were offered 70£ per week per person if we employ Polish...
Of course we didn't...but it was such an arrogant, discriminatory act, it made me sick.
My ex have been filling applications for months with no result, believe it or not on 24-th he got two calls for interview at once...
What does it says?!


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You missed it Sweetie, l never meant that.

English people do not like to work, my company placed ads. in the UK for 10 people in total, the job was live-in with all meals and a £1000 per month, a young lad of 19 left a bad comment about it being small money. I posted in reply to Mike that we wanted carpenters and they wanted £22 an hour when all other ads. were for £16.50 so we will never employ English.
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Jun 25, 2016 9:32 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
KremaP: Well, Life,
we had a conversation about the "useless" degrees some time ago...
Everyone is a "manager" in UK, it has become ridiculous...
.

Useless degrees for some but not for everyone.
"Everyone is a manager in the UK" ???
Do you have any idea what young people knowdlege linked to technology is? What their intelectual potential is?

KremaP: Well, Life,..
I know you like to throw some internet info as a "knowledge" but in real life it's a bit different, trust me...

Trust you?
From your pic:
you are way younger than me.
Do you have a Job?
Do you sustain yourself?
Or are you among the 18-24 group as well?



laugh
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