leave = brexit consequences (786)
tomcatwarne: For a start the British people always needed their passports even before Brexit, there were still border controls within European Union.
The decision to leave the Union was taken by a majority vote, and all the party party contenders and the British Establishment. have said it is irreversible.
This is accepted by the rest of Europe, so it is not if we leave but when.
I have travelled all over Europe and I have never had to show my passport.The decision to leave the Union was taken by a majority vote, and all the party party contenders and the British Establishment. have said it is irreversible.
This is accepted by the rest of Europe, so it is not if we leave but when.
Sometimes if arriving by air they ask to see it because at some airports they don't have a separate EU gate, but not always.
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rebel2: I have travelled all over Europe and I have never had to show my passport.
Sometimes if arriving by air they ask to see it because at some airports they don't have a separate EU gate, but not always.
Sometimes if arriving by air they ask to see it because at some airports they don't have a separate EU gate, but not always.
How strange I too travel extensivly over Europe, and have always had to show my passport, although they don't stamp it now.
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tomcatwarne: How strange I too travel extensivly over Europe, and have always had to show my passport, although they don't stamp it now.
Same here, travelled countless times...
Even at EU gates you have to show passport or ID card...
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tomcatwarne: How strange I too travel extensivly over Europe, and have always had to show my passport, although they don't stamp it now.
I found this in the UK European guide.
You must still show a valid ID card or passport when travelling to or from Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Ireland, Romania and the United Kingdom. Though part of the EU, these countries do not belong to the border-free Schengen area. Before travelling, check what documents you must have to travel outside your home country and to enter the non Schengen EU country you plan to visit.
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tomcatwarne: I found this in the UK European guide.
You must still show a valid ID card or passport when travelling to or from Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Ireland, Romania and the United Kingdom. Though part of the EU, these countries do not belong to the border-free Schengen area. Before travelling, check what documents you must have to travel outside your home country and to enter the non Schengen EU country you plan to visit.
You must still show a valid ID card or passport when travelling to or from Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Ireland, Romania and the United Kingdom. Though part of the EU, these countries do not belong to the border-free Schengen area. Before travelling, check what documents you must have to travel outside your home country and to enter the non Schengen EU country you plan to visit.
Yes, that's the reason, we are not in Schengen, free movement zone...
Bulgaria gives citizenship to all British people who live in Bulgaria. It's up to them if they want to take it...
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KremaP: Yes, that's the reason, we are not in Schengen, free movement zone...
Bulgaria gives citizenship to all British people who live in Bulgaria. It's up to them if they want to take it...
Bulgaria gives citizenship to all British people who live in Bulgaria. It's up to them if they want to take it...
Wow does that apply even
when we leave the EU completely????
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tomcatwarne: Wow does that apply even
when we leave the EU completely????
when we leave the EU completely????
We give you citizenship because we want you to feel secure after leaving the EU...and have all right...
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KremaP: We give you citizenship because we want you to feel secure after leaving the EU...and have all rights...
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KremaP: We give you citizenship because we want you to feel secure after leaving the EU...and have all right...
thank you
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tomcatwarne: How strange I too travel extensivly over Europe, and have always had to show my passport, although they don't stamp it now.
In the last 6 months I have been to Slovakia, drove to Prague, then into Czech, then Vienna.....no passport needed.Also drove to Portugal, across through France to the top of Italy, no passport needed.
In a couple of weeks back up to France.
I can understand on ferries and at airports because they need to check the ticket relates to the person who has it, and of course it does not stop someone walking through the EU gate who is not a EU citizen.
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rebel2: In the last 6 months I have been to Slovakia, drove to Prague, then into Czech, then Vienna.....no passport needed.
Also drove to Portugal, across through France to the top of Italy, no passport needed.
In a couple of weeks back up to France.
I can understand on ferries and at airports because they need to check the ticket relates to the person who has it, and of course it does not stop someone walking through the EU gate who is not a EU citizen.
Also drove to Portugal, across through France to the top of Italy, no passport needed.
In a couple of weeks back up to France.
I can understand on ferries and at airports because they need to check the ticket relates to the person who has it, and of course it does not stop someone walking through the EU gate who is not a EU citizen.
explanation in #790
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tomcatwarne: explanation in #790
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rebel2: I was aware of the reasons, I was merely responding to your post 784, that your statement was incorrect.
not considering the countries I was travelling beween
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tomcatwarne: not considering the countries I was travelling beween
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@ Rebel2
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Meanwhile, in the real world...
" Standard Life shuts property fund amid rush of Brexit withdrawals. Firm closes £2.9bn commercial fund citing ‘exceptional market circumstances’ in reportedly first such UK closure since the financial crisis"
"The £2.9bn fund, which invests in commercial properties including shopping centres, warehouses and offices, is thought to be the first UK property fund to suspend trading since the 2007-2009 financial crisis, when some of the biggest names in investment management stopped withdrawals because they did not have the money to repay investors. " - the vulnerability of the economy
Foreign money already leaving UK
Business investment already falling
looks like hard times ahead... for everyone. hope not
" Standard Life shuts property fund amid rush of Brexit withdrawals. Firm closes £2.9bn commercial fund citing ‘exceptional market circumstances’ in reportedly first such UK closure since the financial crisis"
"The £2.9bn fund, which invests in commercial properties including shopping centres, warehouses and offices, is thought to be the first UK property fund to suspend trading since the 2007-2009 financial crisis, when some of the biggest names in investment management stopped withdrawals because they did not have the money to repay investors. " - the vulnerability of the economy
Foreign money already leaving UK
Business investment already falling
looks like hard times ahead... for everyone. hope not
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Bogart_1960: Meanwhile, in the real world...
" Standard Life shuts property fund amid rush of Brexit withdrawals. Firm closes £2.9bn commercial fund citing ‘exceptional market circumstances’ in reportedly first such UK closure since the financial crisis"
"The £2.9bn fund, which invests in commercial properties including shopping centres, warehouses and offices, is thought to be the first UK property fund to suspend trading since the 2007-2009 financial crisis, when some of the biggest names in investment management stopped withdrawals because they did not have the money to repay investors. " - the vulnerability of the economy
Foreign money already leaving UK
Business investment already falling
like hard times ahead... for everyone. hope not
" Standard Life shuts property fund amid rush of Brexit withdrawals. Firm closes £2.9bn commercial fund citing ‘exceptional market circumstances’ in reportedly first such UK closure since the financial crisis"
"The £2.9bn fund, which invests in commercial properties including shopping centres, warehouses and offices, is thought to be the first UK property fund to suspend trading since the 2007-2009 financial crisis, when some of the biggest names in investment management stopped withdrawals because they did not have the money to repay investors. " - the vulnerability of the economy
Foreign money already leaving UK
Business investment already falling
like hard times ahead... for everyone. hope not
There is going to be a difficult time, how difficult it is unknown with a 100 % precision.
2.9 bn Pounds is nothing and I believe the source your are quoting is rather sensacionalist I would consider other sources as well.
"Brexit is NOT an Economic Catastrophe say Capital Economics but Fresh Austerity Drive by Govt Would be 'Disasterous' "
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lifeisadream: There is going to be a difficult time, how difficult it is unknown with a 100 % precision.
2.9 bn Pounds is nothing and I believe the source your are quoting is rather sensacionalist I would consider other sources as well.
"Brexit is NOT an Economic Catastrophe say Capital Economics but Fresh Austerity Drive by Govt Would be 'Disasterous' "
2.9 bn Pounds is nothing and I believe the source your are quoting is rather sensacionalist I would consider other sources as well.
"Brexit is NOT an Economic Catastrophe say Capital Economics but Fresh Austerity Drive by Govt Would be 'Disasterous' "
life, that's the way markets have always operated. no one has a clue, other than inside traders.
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lifeisadream: There is going to be a difficult time, how difficult it is unknown with a 100 % precision.
2.9 bn Pounds is nothing and I believe the source your are quoting is rather sensacionalist I would consider other sources as well.
"Brexit is NOT an Economic Catastrophe say Capital Economics but Fresh Austerity Drive by Govt Would be 'Disasterous' "
2.9 bn Pounds is nothing and I believe the source your are quoting is rather sensacionalist I would consider other sources as well.
"Brexit is NOT an Economic Catastrophe say Capital Economics but Fresh Austerity Drive by Govt Would be 'Disasterous' "
i am not sure where you read your sensationalist news - nor i do care -, but i get mine from my area of work (M&A), and from reputable sources - so dont try to patronize. It is an area I believe i have enough understanding.
regarding my quote is from The Guardian - "that it rarely (in comparison to most other common newspapers in the UK) publishes sensationalist articles, preferring a quieter more balanced (and researched) approach".
I dont agree with the idea of Bootle as he is a brexiter . plenty of other independent economist and studies shows the opposite. feel free to research, if you want.
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There is aome discernment needed I think, to recognize that the Brits will need their passports too, if they require that of others.
Nonetheless, I tend to agree with the exit because I am not convinced that staying is in their best financial or cultural interests, mainly due to the open borders problems and loss of self determination.
IDK if the Scots or Irish have really had to deal with the same issues at the channel gate and such. I think if the UK really felt that they were getting their 6.5 mil back and then some, they would stay. And the 6.5 mil, does that include the cost of social welfare to non-citizens? Just the savings in dues and social welfare alone....
Do you really think that Britain exiting the EU means they will abandon agreements with the Irish? I can see how that would concern you, but time will tell. The EU is an experiment. Perhaps the EU just needs tweaking to keep Britain or get her back.....eventually
As regards the Irish question.
The Good Friday Agreement, which brought us peace is underpinned by EU Law.
If the UK leave Europe it will mean more negotiations and all that entails as the current Agreement will be unlawful.
It took a huge amount of work to achieve this process.
I fear the process will go backwards, before going forward again, who knows, it may even lead to a United Ireland