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KremaP: Everyone knows or heard at least one joke about the British tolerance.
But if you allow all that your nation fought and worked for to be sliced and given on a plate to someone who did nothing for that process, then you may be labelled as "stupid".
I personally think that many will take advantage of the Brexit, mayor of Calais wants to let all the illegals storm the border as they are no longer obliged to prevent that from happening, French border ends at the ocean... Other are trying to threat with higher taxes, but what I see is that money talk louder and this kind of problems will be settled quite easily.
I see today that after the anger towards Britain for having the guts the Euro-rats started looking for the problem in their own barn.
Junker will be the scrape goat and hopefully many others will follow.
There is no point in a Union that clearly doesn't work and what they have to concentrate now on is to find the mistakes and neutralise them...including wrong people and bad influence...
a well written comment.......But if you allow all that your nation fought and worked for to be sliced and given on a plate to someone who did nothing for that process, then you may be labelled as "stupid".
I personally think that many will take advantage of the Brexit, mayor of Calais wants to let all the illegals storm the border as they are no longer obliged to prevent that from happening, French border ends at the ocean... Other are trying to threat with higher taxes, but what I see is that money talk louder and this kind of problems will be settled quite easily.
I see today that after the anger towards Britain for having the guts the Euro-rats started looking for the problem in their own barn.
Junker will be the scrape goat and hopefully many others will follow.
There is no point in a Union that clearly doesn't work and what they have to concentrate now on is to find the mistakes and neutralise them...including wrong people and bad influence...
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TheRedSquirrel87: Over the long-term leaving will ease tensions IF by leaving the European Union we don't get the same number of immigrants, only browner. In the short-term some might get a little excited.
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allthegoodnamest: England is still a European country.. The fact that they have chosen to leave the EU doesn't change anything other than to make & enforce their own laws & regulations.. The 2-3 years it will take to leave the EU , will give them the time & opportunity to negotiate trade deals with the rest of Europe .
Britain will still remain in the common market but can also trade with Asia , America & Africa, without being obligated to buy inferior & overpriced European produce .
Britain will still remain in the common market but can also trade with Asia , America & Africa, without being obligated to buy inferior & overpriced European produce .
If the UK leave, big if imo, The Common Market will not be available to them imo. Numerous EU officials and individual PM'S have come out and stated this since the vote.
Availability to the common market comes at a price.
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purr4mance: that's what i was wondering. so there is some retaliation.
Retaliation against the immigrants from what I can see, if that expression works
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purr4mance: so what happens to those that played the "stupid" and are now in the system on easy street?
i saw a show of solidarity from the heads of a number of eu members and it appears that they are staying put.
i wonder if there is hidden cash flowing between germany and france two of the key remaining countries in the eu. in other words, are bribes taking place behind closed doors?
i saw a show of solidarity from the heads of a number of eu members and it appears that they are staying put.
i wonder if there is hidden cash flowing between germany and france two of the key remaining countries in the eu. in other words, are bribes taking place behind closed doors?
What I meant was that Brits are(were) tolerant to the point of allowing other to take ridiculous advantage of it.
France is getting cocky now as the third power is out...
More money, more power, sharing a bigger slices now...
Corruption has come to a level that the stink can not be hidden anymore...
Whatever the "elite" says, we all know that the main goal for them is to get more cash in their pockets...
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Aragorn11: Retaliation against the immigrants from what I can see, if that expression works
which immigrants ?
and you say 50 won't be invoked? why
50 is the process that is set in motion when britain decided to leave the eu. those are the rules. it's fairly clear what the process is.
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Aragorn11: If the UK leave, big if imo, The Common Market will not be available to them imo. Numerous EU officials and individual PM'S have come out and stated this since the vote.
Availability to the common market comes at a price.
Availability to the common market comes at a price.
The treaty has already been signed & I understand trade deals are already in the process of negotiation..
Btw . Your boys were unlucky yesterday, & the euro championships will be a poorer place without your supporters , who have once again, been a great credit to your country.
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Aragorn11: If the UK leave, big if imo, The Common Market will not be available to them imo. Numerous EU officials and individual PM'S have come out and stated this since the vote.
Availability to the common market comes at a price.
Availability to the common market comes at a price.
yep,the EU will make you an offer you can't refuse,in true Brussels-Mafia-fashion!
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allthegoodnamest: The treaty has already been signed & I understand trade deals are already in the process of negotiation..
Btw . Your boys were unlucky yesterday, & the euro championships will be a poorer place without your supporters , who have once again, been a great credit to your country.
Btw . Your boys were unlucky yesterday, & the euro championships will be a poorer place without your supporters , who have once again, been a great credit to your country.
Yeah France had much more quality but we put up a fight and the supporters, as always, made a lot of friends.
Have read so much on this hugely surprising and historic vote I have never seen anything on any new treaty nor any new negotiations.
Status Quo until Article 50 is invoked, i.e. UK are part of EU and all contributions, trade agreements, free movement of workforce throughout EU still in force.
Various EU Politicians have already stated no negoriations Will take place until Article 50 is invoked and then UK will be in much inferior position to negotiate.
My thoughts are EU are waiting on a new referendum
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KremaP: What I meant was that Brits are(were) tolerant to the point of allowing other to take ridiculous advantage of it.
France is getting cocky now as the third power is out...
More money, more power, sharing a bigger slices now...
Corruption has come to a level that the stink can not be hidden anymore...
Whatever the "elite" says, we all know that the main goal for them is to get more cash in their pockets...
France is getting cocky now as the third power is out...
More money, more power, sharing a bigger slices now...
Corruption has come to a level that the stink can not be hidden anymore...
Whatever the "elite" says, we all know that the main goal for them is to get more cash in their pockets...
i understood you, i was referring to maybe one angle of the generosity. and that was the immigrants sliding right into the country and getting welfare benefits.
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purr4mance: which immigrants ?
and you say 50 won't be invoked? why
50 is the process that is set in motion when britain decided to leave the eu. those are the rules. it's fairly clear what the process is.
and you say 50 won't be invoked? why
50 is the process that is set in motion when britain decided to leave the eu. those are the rules. it's fairly clear what the process is.
Numerous reports of voilence against Polish, Pakistani, Muslim etc.
UK have not decided to leave the EU, they had a referendum that is not legally binding. The EU have a clear process and are awaiting on the UK Parliament to invoke Article 50 or officially inform the EU in session, that they want to invoke the article.
Nothing will happen until that is invoked and then there will be a 2 year limit for extraction.
As Cameron has resigned with no intention of invoking the article, a new Tory leader needs to be elected, with bot pro Europe and brexit candidates
likely to go forward for this position.
We are likely to have a vacuum until then and can only see more xenophobia and market uncertaintly for next few months.
Its a mess
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Aragorn11: Yeah France had much more quality but we put up a fight and the supporters, as always, made a lot of friends.
Have read so much on this hugely surprising and historic vote I have never seen anything on any new treaty nor any new negotiations.
Status Quo until Article 50 is invoked, i.e. UK are part of EU and all contributions, trade agreements, free movement of workforce throughout EU still in force.
Various EU Politicians have already stated no negoriations Will take place until Article 50 is invoked and then UK will be in much inferior position to negotiate.
My thoughts are EU are waiting on a new referendum
Have read so much on this hugely surprising and historic vote I have never seen anything on any new treaty nor any new negotiations.
Status Quo until Article 50 is invoked, i.e. UK are part of EU and all contributions, trade agreements, free movement of workforce throughout EU still in force.
Various EU Politicians have already stated no negoriations Will take place until Article 50 is invoked and then UK will be in much inferior position to negotiate.
My thoughts are EU are waiting on a new referendum
To be continued.... Sorry but Football takes priority.
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KremaP: Haha, yes, Capri, I would love to see that happening...
I know the first who dared will end up in jail...
I know the first who dared will end up in jail...
or worse
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Conrad73: yep,the EU will make you an offer you can't refuse,in true Brussels-Mafia-fashion!
Hi Con, hows the health ?
As I said, hopefully it will shake the EU up and give more autonomy to member states. We can but hope.
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allthegoodnamest: To be continued.... Sorry but Football takes priority.
'Mon Engerland
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purr4mance: i understood you, i was referring to maybe one angle of the generosity. and that was the immigrants sliding right into the country and getting welfare benefits.
Britain has a very good welfare system, but unfortunately it is the magnet for the immigrants.
Being generous to your own people is an internal affair, but when every single foreigner wants to join the feast sooner than later the bill has to be paid...by the host...
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purr4mance: so what's the solution ?
Not to accept any of the ridiculous demands made by them - but I am afraid after all the years of bending backwards and tiptoeing not to offend them it could be too late to insist on our ways/culture without using some radical measures.
The only solution for Europe now is to stop immigration from those countries altogether for a while (haha just like Trump said), try to integrate those willing to be integrated, and repatriate the rest pronto.
And to finally do something about this absurd situation where "religious freedom" overrides all the other rights
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Aragorn11: Hi Con, hows the health ?
As I said, hopefully it will shake the EU up and give more autonomy to member states. We can but hope.
As I said, hopefully it will shake the EU up and give more autonomy to member states. We can but hope.
Difficult to see the EU bureaucrats will get to their senses - just listen to Verhofstadt's response to Brexit vote - he wants more EU - more political integration not autonomy.
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Aragorn11: Numerous reports of voilence against Polish, Pakistani, Muslim etc.
UK have not decided to leave the EU, they had a referendum that is not legally binding. The EU have a clear process and are awaiting on the UK Parliament to invoke Article 50 or officially inform the EU in session, that they want to invoke the article.
Nothing will happen until that is invoked and then there will be a 2 year limit for extraction.
As Cameron has resigned with no intention of invoking the article, a new Tory leader needs to be elected, with bot pro Europe and brexit candidates
likely to go forward for this position.
We are likely to have a vacuum until then and can only see more xenophobia and market uncertaintly for next few months.
Its a mess
UK have not decided to leave the EU, they had a referendum that is not legally binding. The EU have a clear process and are awaiting on the UK Parliament to invoke Article 50 or officially inform the EU in session, that they want to invoke the article.
Nothing will happen until that is invoked and then there will be a 2 year limit for extraction.
As Cameron has resigned with no intention of invoking the article, a new Tory leader needs to be elected, with bot pro Europe and brexit candidates
likely to go forward for this position.
We are likely to have a vacuum until then and can only see more xenophobia and market uncertaintly for next few months.
Its a mess
but 50 will be invoked correct ? because i thought in your opinion it wouldn't
the way i understood 50 was that cameron left the responsibility to invoke with the next leader.
2 years to sign agreements. if not, harsh tax tariffs as penalties.
sounds like a mess. i hope the brits. figure it all out.
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But if you allow all that your nation fought and worked for to be sliced and given on a plate to someone who did nothing for that process, then you may be labelled as "stupid".
I personally think that many will take advantage of the Brexit, mayor of Calais wants to let all the illegals storm the border as they are no longer obliged to prevent that from happening, French border ends at the ocean... Other are trying to threat with higher taxes, but what I see is that money talk louder and this kind of problems will be settled quite easily.
I see today that after the anger towards Britain for having the guts the Euro-rats started looking for the problem in their own barn.
Junker will be the scrape goat and hopefully many others will follow.
There is no point in a Union that clearly doesn't work and what they have to concentrate now on is to find the mistakes and neutralise them...including wrong people and bad influence...
so what happens to those that played the "stupid" and are now in the system on easy street?
i saw a show of solidarity from the heads of a number of eu members and it appears that they are staying put.
i wonder if there is hidden cash flowing between germany and france two of the key remaining countries in the eu. in other words, are bribes taking place behind closed doors?