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Jun 26, 2016 4:05 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
GalwayGuy35
GalwayGuy35GalwayGuy35galway, Galway Ireland25 Threads 1,537 Posts
epirb: those going to Ireland to work won't be voting see Czit


True, but they all benefit from EU money.

The EU needs reform, maybe there might be some chance it will happen if Merkel and some of the old guard ever decides to step down.
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Jun 26, 2016 4:08 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
GalwayGuy35
GalwayGuy35GalwayGuy35galway, Galway Ireland25 Threads 1,537 Posts
KremaP: I am not surprised,
our agriculture and farming has been completely smashed into pieces, hundreds of factories shut and sold piece by piece in the down of the "democracy"...
We were pretty fine before...
Someone paid good money to destroy us and make us gasarbeiters...


OK but isn't being part of the EU better for getting investment and jobs for your country?

I work with a guy from Bulgaria and the wages there are very small.
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Jun 26, 2016 4:12 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
MikeD12
MikeD12MikeD12Broadstairs, Kent, England UK16 Threads 2 Polls 2,809 Posts
KremaP: Oh God,
now I can imagine, you Scots lifting your kilts up and the Romans their skirts...I bet that was worth seeing...

They have done it
so take a shufti at this kiss wine bouquet
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Jun 26, 2016 4:13 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
GalwayGuy35: True, but they all benefit from EU money.

The EU needs reform, maybe there might be some chance it will happen if Merkel and some of the old guard ever decides to step down.
It is either going to change back to what is was or it will end . When would be just a guess . Soros may be a lot of things but stupid he isn't and if he can see that , others must .
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Jun 26, 2016 4:14 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
KremaP
KremaPKremaPAt home, Shumen Bulgaria3,793 Posts
GalwayGuy35: OK but isn't being part of the EU better for getting investment and jobs for your country?

I work with a guy from Bulgaria and the wages there are very small.






Well, there are small wages in every country, depends what your skills are and how good you are...
It also depends where you live of course, smaller town, smaller wages for non professionals but cheaper life as well...
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Jun 26, 2016 4:16 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
KremaP: Britain will be fine...
Losing something when gaining control is normal, and even the worlds stock exchange experts are saying the situation has been overreacted...
The richest people in the world lost few quids, but who cares...
The scare mongering started already and that's ridiculous...
I just read that Germany and Finland are rising for Referendum, Slovakia too...
Something has to change in EU and fast...


Yes there will be more referendums when they realise the prop of the UK igone. no more bail outs from Britain, and if the
Scots want to leave us so be it but I don't think they will vote to go it alone.
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Jun 26, 2016 4:22 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
tomcatwarne: Yes there will be more referendums when they realise the prop of the UK igone. no more bail outs from Britain, and if the
Scots want to leave us so be it but I don't think they will vote to go it alone.

The exchange rate is 1.23 euros to the £1.00 its going up, there is a lot of scare mongering going on for one reason and another. THe pond is on the upgrin grin
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Jun 26, 2016 4:33 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
TheRedSquirrel87: And if anything they have it a little easier than we do in the north. Out of all the working class parts of the country Scotland and Wales are the best supported. They get more than the English and a lot more than either would get going alone.

No, we should only entertain Scotland leaving if we felt that Britain was impossibly large to be governed by a central government at Westminster. Britain has no track record of achieving anything on this earth apart from building the greatest civilisation the world had ever known. It's clearly an unworkable state.


Have you seen the list of British inventions!!!
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Jun 26, 2016 4:36 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
TheRedSquirrel87
TheRedSquirrel87TheRedSquirrel87Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK1 Threads 1,107 Posts
TheRedSquirrel87: And if anything they have it a little easier than we do in the north. Out of all the working class parts of the country Scotland and Wales are the best supported. They get more than the English and a lot more than either would get going alone.

No, we should only entertain Scotland leaving if we felt that Britain was impossibly large to be governed by a central government at Westminster. Britain has no track record of achieving anything on this earth apart from building the greatest civilisation the world had ever known. It's clearly an unworkable state.


I clearly believe we should build on British independence with a sense of Britishness. The EU is a monster, it's too big and too diverse, but this doesn't mean we have to go and create the complete opposite problem of the myopic little englander unwilling to support a union which clearly can and does work.

The last thing we want is to allow Sturgeon to sell the Scots down the river to the EU and then have to share a land border with a decrepit dumping ground for refugees.
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Jun 26, 2016 4:36 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
KremaP
KremaPKremaPAt home, Shumen Bulgaria3,793 Posts
tomcatwarne: Yes there will be more referendums when they realise the prop of the UK igone. no more bail outs from Britain, and if the
Scots want to leave us so be it but I don't think they will vote to go it alone.





I read an interesting article from 1996 saying that half of Scotland is owned by 500 people and just few of them are Scots...
I know that wealthy Arab families own a lot there, like the Tajir family for example...
I wonder what is the percentage now... dunno
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Jun 26, 2016 4:38 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
rebel2
rebel2rebel2Alicante, Valencia Spain8 Threads 6,354 Posts
TheRedSquirrel87: I clearly believe we should build on British independence with a sense of Britishness. The EU is a monster, it's too big and too diverse, but this doesn't mean we have to go and create the complete opposite problem of the myopic little englander unwilling to support a union which clearly can and does work.

The last thing we want is to allow Sturgeon to sell the Scots down the river to the EU and then have to share a land border with a decrepit dumping ground for refugees.
I totally agree. Work together. Sturgeon is only looking to further her own political future. We have stood together before and we should do so again. cheers
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Jun 26, 2016 4:45 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
rebel2: I totally agree. Work together. Sturgeon is only looking to further her own political future. We have stood together before and we should do so again.


There's something fishy about Sturgeongrin grin grin grin
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Jun 26, 2016 4:46 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
rebel2
rebel2rebel2Alicante, Valencia Spain8 Threads 6,354 Posts
tomcatwarne: There's something fishy about Sturgeon
laugh cheers
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Jun 26, 2016 4:56 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
ganj69
ganj69ganj69porlock, Somerset, England UK1 Threads 503 Posts
It was the United Kingdom that kept Europe as Europe and not one big Germany. We did it then and we can do it again, we'll be just fine. I've No worries about that. As for Stugeon wanting Scotland to leave and go it along, she's just trying to make a name for herself.. I can't see them leaving, but good luck to them if they do. It's time to take back our country and move forward. Rule Britanniabeer
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Jun 26, 2016 4:58 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
allthegoodnamest
allthegoodnamestallthegoodnamestLondon, Essex, England UK40 Threads 4,697 Posts
KremaP: Britain will be fine...
Losing something when gaining control is normal, and even the worlds stock exchange experts are saying the situation has been overreacted...
The richest people in the world lost few quids, but who cares...
The scare mongering started already and that's ridiculous...
I just read that Germany and Finland are rising for Referendum, Slovakia too...
Something has to change in EU and fast...


I think Britain's exit is just the beginning of the end for the EU ..
It will crumple within ten years & by the time it finally does, Britain will be in a strong position because it has learned to cope independently .. The smaller countries will suffer as a result, leaving them worse off than before they joined, thus making them poorer than a third word country.
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Jun 26, 2016 5:02 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
TheRedSquirrel87: I clearly believe we should build on British independence with a sense of Britishness. The EU is a monster, it's too big and too diverse, but this doesn't mean we have to go and create the complete opposite problem of the myopic little englander unwilling to support a union which clearly can and does work.

The last thing we want is to allow Sturgeon to sell the Scots down the river to the EU and then have to share a land border with a decrepit dumping ground for refugees.

Suppose you could join Federation of Australia

be easy process to follow and become a Dinky Di True Blue Aussie

Act to extend to the Queen’s successors.

The provisions of this Act referring to the Queen shall extend to Her Majesty’s heirs and successors in the sovereignty of the United Kingdom.

in the sovereignty of the United Kingdom.




silly bloody mindless judge didn't mind screwing Julian I'm sure they'd be able to reinterpret a constitution.
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Jun 26, 2016 5:06 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
robplum: Suppose you could join Federation of Australia

be easy process to follow and become a Dinky Di True Blue Aussie

Act to extend to the Queen’s successors.

The provisions of this Act referring to the Queen shall extend to Her Majesty’s heirs and successors in the sovereignty of the United Kingdom.

in the sovereignty of the United Kingdom.

silly bloody mindless judge didn't mind screwing Julian I'm sure they'd be able to reinterpret a constitution.



Very interesting reading.
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Jun 26, 2016 5:07 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
allthegoodnamest
allthegoodnamestallthegoodnamestLondon, Essex, England UK40 Threads 4,697 Posts
unlaoised: It will recover somewhat. Back to where it was? Nope.


Only time will tell.
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Jun 26, 2016 5:10 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
Capricorn143
Capricorn143Capricorn143The Best, Jugovzhodna Slovenia1 Threads 1,115 Posts
I think Britain's exit is just the beginning of the end for the EU ..
It will crumple within ten years & by the time it finally does, Britain will be in a strong position because it has learned to cope independently .. The smaller countries will suffer as a result, leaving them worse off than before they joined, thus making them poorer than a third word country.[/quote]

I agree with most of what you have said in your post. The smaller and poorer countries will suffer the most if the EU lasts as long as you have predicted - in the ten year's period they will be made more and more dependent on Brussels, there will be no sovreignity left for them. That's why they should be the ones running out of the EU as fast as possible - now!

The EU bureaucrats have not foreseen that the UK would leave, now they are admitting that people are not against Europe, EU but they are against this EU run by these bureacurats and mindess politicians. What is the EU response? Like the most obnoxious MP says: EU needs reforms.....but he sees the future in a real political integration, i.e. no nation states, one "Soviet" EU running the politics, economics etc. for the poor brainless, clueless Frech, Germans, Slovaks....Slovenians, Bulgarians....etc.




The EU needs to be toppled down, then and only then....in due time some other EU can be established.
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Jun 26, 2016 5:16 AM CST leave = brexit consequences
MikeD12
MikeD12MikeD12Broadstairs, Kent, England UK16 Threads 2 Polls 2,809 Posts
tomcatwarne: There's something fishy about Sturgeon

Ho Ho HO - roe roe roe - and a caviatr to that
Expensive too grin grin cheers
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