RE: D Day - 68th Anniversary 6 June

thumbs up Thank you for your service to man and country.

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

McCain accusations of political security leaks by the Obama administration is expanding in scope and in support.

He had identified several more area were the administration releases classified materials to boost the Obama 2012 campaign.

The new 3 investigation areas are:

1)The Joint Israeli/US virusing of the Iranian Nuclear material programs

2)Yemen Drone attacks

3)The death list that the President keeps.

These are added to the SEAL TEAM 6 release. Here McCain says that then
Sec't of Def Gates went to the White House and the NSA.....and said to them following the release of SEAL TEAM 6 public release...."To shut the F _ _ _ Up." This before the SEAL TEAM 6 shot down in Afghanistan.

McCain has gotten DEM support in the Senate to have a hearing on the security breaches. Two senior DEM .....Fienstien and the Senate head of Intelligence committee....are supporting him in a Senate hearing by agreeing the that security breaches have occurred from the White House.

McCain is looking to begin the hearing as early as Tuesday of next week.

The young President has stepped into a big pile of poo....and it is sticking.

The White House has already said no to a independent investigation/council into the Security breaches. Leaving little choice but for a Senate investigation.

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

Holder was deep fried in a house hearing on Fast and Furious. With about 100,000 documents on the program....the administration has release 7600 of them.

REP see smoke and they feel heat as they dug into Holder today. DEM on the committee tried to protect him with objections and points of order.
But the hearing went on for 4 and 1/2 hours. That is alot of C-SPan time with the AG looking bad. He did not have many answers. The ones he had were quickly run over.

Every time Holder comes to committee on Fast and Furious, the REP group that wants his resignation or closure grows. At the end of the day they hit the media with their opinions.

Holder's stonewalling on Fast and Furious is only convincing REP that
the Administration promise to be transperent is weak as water and was for politics.

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Tied into this is the growing issue of National Security leaks by the Administration. Here the REP argument is that DEMs have been release classified materials to enhance President Obama 2012 Presidential campaign.

Like what?

Like details into the bin Laden raid. McCain has led the REP fight here.

I did a little homework here.

Back in October 2001, GWBush ordered Operation:Rhino. It was a Ranger Para raid into Khandahar, and the compounds of bin Laden and Omar Muhammed. I read the media releases of the time....none had the units names of the Rangers units that did the raid. A very successful raid.
A ton of intell was gained....the video on the chemical weapons tests,
hair focilles of bin Laden for dNA, the number of alQeada that had trained in Afghanistan.

The Ranger Units identities were releases several years later. But not immediately. This has been SOP for many years in US military operations to protect the units involved to repriesal strikes. By the way....in the media releases....GWB names was not even mentioned.
Though he had to sign off on the raid.

So the Obama administration had a model on how to handle the release of classified materials from a raid. They just either ignored it or felt a need to release the identity of SEAL TEAM 6. Because within 24 hours of the raid....SEAL TEAM 6 was a household name.

Later we have the SEAL TEAM 6 shot down. A investigations into both the shot down and the security breach....that has not seen the light of a public release.

So McCain has a case here that Obama has released national security materials to enhance his campaign. The question is will the American
public ...facing economic hard times....even listen to a case concerning National Security materials being used for political gain.

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

First time since in the 2012 race, former Governor Romney out earned
President Obama in donations....in May. $77m to $60m. This before the
Walker recall vote win.

Clearly every dollar donated to the REP candidate came from the Koch brothers.....there is not a dollar given by a middle class American to him. All the dollars that Obama made were from middle income children that opened their piggie banks and gave him the money made in lemonaide sales.

Only you have those $40,000 per plate diners of the George Clooney ($15m) and Jessica Parker to explain. So it does not add up. Wealth is wealth. Some DEMs are wealthy and some REP are wealthy. You also have to explain the 369 Bundlers that the DEM party employees. Each campaign donation there is a $2500 check. Not much lemonaide money in that.

Do campaign finances need to be reformed in the US? Yes.....too many ways for foreign money to come into play. Too many ways for PACs to get major donations for attack and negative add campaigns.

But this was on the McCain platform of 2008. It clearly was not on the Obama platform of 2008.

RE: Why Not fully back Kofi Annan and give peace a chance in Syria

Here is what we learned in Northern Iraq with the displaced Kurds that had gone into Southern Turkey. Also with the Kosovos. Because I think that it going to be very relevant to making any Syrian Peace plan work.

You have to give these displaced persons, a hope that they can return to their homes and businesses back in Syria. Else.......they are going to resist any and every peace plan you come up with.

We did it in Kosovo....we did it in Northern Iraq. So I am going to share the trick with for future reference. Right now, Assad's people are ethic cleansing the Sunni from western Syria. These people know their houses...properties....farms....businesses....but they are losing possession of them.

Assad's people will begin to 'detitle' them from their properties. Leave a place for a length of time and it becomes public property. Or becomes the state's property.

What we did was use satellite imagery to record their property and property lines. Someone looks at a sat image....he can point out and lay out the property lines of his house, farm, business. Basically, we made up a new title registry for them based ...on sat imagery....so they knew that once the conflict was done....they were coming back to something. We did that in Kosovo....and some in North Iraq. It works. It gives them a hope.

But you take that away....that Assad is also taking their farms, businesses and houses away....they have little reason or no reason not to fight.

RE: Why Not fully back Kofi Annan and give peace a chance in Syria

Hi Vinny,

I agree the CIA is there. The Russia secret service is there. The Mossad is there. Every intell agency in the world has flocked to the
Syrian violence. That is what they get paid to do. Go to the hotspots and do covert things.....

But just my opinion, on the case built here.....that the best Peace Keepers for Syria is the Russians.

I back that up with what Hillary Clinton said yesterday. She was
not in Washington to meet with Annan.....but with conference calling...likely was at the table in some way.

Yesterday, she goes public with saying 'the US understands the Syrian people want a change. That they want Assad removed from power. The United States agrees with that. That the United States has prepped a 'staged plan' for his transfer of power.' Not quoted verbattem but very close.

She did not say one word about US Peace Keepers or a no fly zone over the country.

It is a election year. Obama cannot make a large peace keeping deployment to Syria. He bungled Libya so badly on the Congressional approval. He cannot even get a go from Congress for a no fly zone. They would not give it to him. They'd force it to be executive order and to be totally on his shoulders with the election coming.

Maybe after the election. But right now? No way, Hose'.

So the only place I see them coming from is Russia....maybe Africa. But the later is problematic as well. But to get them from Russia, you are going to have to twist Putin's arm.jmo

It is twistable. Ask me how we stopped the Russians short of the Georgian Capitol someday. Maybe "stopped" is not the right word.....'induced them to slowing their advance' to a 1/4 inch per day.....))...is a better choice of words.

Heck if I was 30 years younger.....give me some blue body armor and a blue kevlar hat.....but this is not a old man's game or place....for the next few years,......Syria is going to be one serious and deadly place.

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

Dude, have you heard of SWAT-ting?

If not, you better find ASAP....what it is. Because lot of government heat is coming down on it.....................after Romney is elected
President.

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

Pretty sure Alfridi was a CIA source the entire time. During entire time he was run by the CIA....CIA Director was Penetta. Penetta was CIA director when the raid went down. Not Petreuas. Very unlikely that
any US military officer would know of the CIA assets in Pakistan.

RE: Why Not fully back Kofi Annan and give peace a chance in Syria

UN mandate to overfly Iraq and to monitor following the fist gulf war are ....UN Resolutions 687 and 707. Shortly they were passed, the US, Great Britian and France began monitoring overflight of Iraq.

So?

As said the UN has acted to mandate the United States into a peace keeping role. Because they were there to monitor Sadam Hussien actions against the Kurds and Shia. Why not mandate Russia to do so in Syria?

Clearly this is just another US bashing thread.

Syria dissolves into Civil War while you bash the United States. Assad hosed down Sunni with his attack helos just the other day....foring them to move to the Labanon border. They had another civilian atrocity.

Russia is the only real Peace Keeping force Annan has for Syria. But you fail to realize that as you bash the United States. For not even being there. So if you want Syrian Peace Keepers....time to go ask at the Kremlin.

Whether Putin has the forces for a Syrian Peace Keeping mission. I doubt. He invaded Georgia with only 65,000....most of those were reservists....and they were poorly equipped. I saw em running around in tennis shoes......but you can at least ask. It never hurts to ask....all Putin can say to you is no.

But I would go the UN GA route....and place some arm twisting to the request. Putin is former KGB.....so unless you arm twist a little....it ain't going to happen. He is not like President Bush one or two....that sees a international need for intervention and does it because it is the right thing to do.

The longer you hesitate in the request....the more atrocities will occur and the more Sunni come to Baka hills inside Lebanon.....

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

Dude did you put this together about your "honorable" Obama administration?

There was a 27m dollar US reward for bin Laden.

When Dr. Alfridi took his dNA....prior to the raid.....he confirmed both
bin Laden's identity and location. The US already had bin Laden's dNA samples. When GWB ordered the ranger raid into Kandahar in 2001, only
5 weeks after 911, they went to a compound there were bin Laden lived.
He had cleared out so fast....he left much of his personal items....including a hair brush with foliciles. They can be used for dNA.

But they also had it from his family, that was here in the US.

So in my opinion, the US owes Dr. Alfridi part of that 27m.....a pretty good share in fact.

So instead of getting him and his family out of Pakistan hours after the raid....or even before....they leave him in Pakistan....knowing the Pakistani are going to trace how we found bin Laden. Eventually the Pakistani government is going to find Dr. Alfridi.

When that happened....what did Penetta do? He confirmed Alfridi's role so fast that the Pakistani had to arrest and try him. Thus saving the US.....much of the $27m. Alfridi cannot collect that reward during a 33 year prison sentence.

That is your 'honorable' Obama administration. That is also why 'honorable' American are voting against it.

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

In a meeting.....Bill attempted to have Hillary run against Obama for the 2012. In the meeting he called Obama....a Amateur.....this according the Kliens in his book "The Amateur"

Kliens had two sources from the meeting say they heard it said.

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

Just read a section of the Book...."Taliban; The Unknown Enemy" by Furgusson.

Early in the Taliban administration of Afghanistan....in the 1996-98 period.....know what many in the west considered their leadership to be? And at this time who was in the Presidency of the United States?
One Bill Clinton.

The Taliban were called 'amateurs'.

What does Bill Clinton call the Obama administration? He calls them...'amateurs'.

Any connection? LOL..................

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

Dude the Sgt Morgan story is about housing discrimination. How progressive and liberal Americans can be bias to American service men and women.

So you think that the woman has a right to keep a rent paying VET with money in hand....from signing a lease and living in her advertised apartment?

Because if you do....here a hint.....the state of NH....has a specific law draft and approved to keep VETs from being discriminated against for housing, employment and education. Every state in the Union does.

Let us do this. Say it was black family that she refused to rent to. Is that OK?

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

The finally tally of Walker win in Wisconsin is coming in. With about 87% of the polling accounted.....he has a 11 point lead, 6 points more than his 2010 win over Barrett. Also it appears that the turn out was 116% to the 2010 mid term turn out.

Yet even with a convincing double digit victory....liberal media and hard lefts are claiming a DEM victory last night or are taking a threatening posture.

MSNBC...says Obama won the post election survey over Romney. Since when do surveys and polls determine our political office holders?

Far lefts...are going the nasty route. They want Lt Gov Kleensfield to die of cancer soon or to leave state before they find her. She has become a Sarah Palin figure in this fight. Almost has a identical background to the former Alaskan Gov....as she was one time a new anchor.

The DEMs are reeling from the defeat. Their polling had this as a dead even election. But what happened is two things. That the DEM polling had not foreseen.

First Walker tapped into the IND voter and got his support. When the break down comes out....I bet Walk won the IND vote 55 to 45.

Second thing is. Walker won the walk in vote. Wisconsin has same
day registeration. The DEM have always felt they owned same day registeration. The voter could register and then vote. But with a 11 point gap, the same day registeration vote went to Walker when the turn out was in the 70% range.

President Obama tweeted a support for the DEM challenger Barrett. This has gotten much attention and much criticism. Here is why. He flew over the state several times the week prior to the election. But never dropped down to land and make a appearance for Barrett.

Barrett was not the hard left candidate that the Unions or Obama had wanted. He won a primary against the her earlier. Barrett is more a mid road Clinton, than a hard left DEM.

The point I come to is this. In the 2012, mid road DEM candidates can expect little support from the White House. A tweet...a thank you...a hand shake photo. But they are not going to get a Presidential visit to campaign for them.

I also bet this pertains to the DNC money that is going to DEM moderate candidates. President Obama White House staff and campaign staff are effectively cutting up the DEM party at this point. In a effort to save the far left's political office holders and position in the country.

Far left candidates are going to try to hide in your state ballots, now seeing that the TEA Party wave continues....many are going to swing mid road after Walker win. This in attempt to survive. Just check their voting record and their earlier endorsements of President Obama. Then vote accordingly.

Just take aim slowly before you squeeze the pencil or pen to make the vote....))). Wait till you see the white of their eyes, in other words and know you have a far left DEM blanked out of your ballot. Only support mid road DEM and REP...in the 2012. Let us make this a near total cleaning of the entire far left political apparatus that President Obama attempted to place on America.

Lastly...here in Florida. 2012 campaign signage is being seen. In a county that went to Barak Obama by 36,000 votes in 2008. I have yet to see a Obama/Biden yard sign. Also I have not seen any local DEM candidate place the term DEMOCRAT on the signs that they had made up.

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

With about 48% of the polls reporting in Wisconsin.....Walker has a 18% lead over Barrett. FOX has announced a Walker win in his recall vote. Leading 59% to 41%, the state of Wisconsin has spoken clearly to fiscal responsibility and conservative leadership. The turn out was record setting....in the high 60s and even 70s.

A major loser for the is major public service unions. They pored millions into the Barrett campaign. Only to see the state reject union policies. One can expect states around the country to engage public service unions on the same tactics that have been approved by the voters of Wisconsin.

Another loser of the night is the student demonstrator and the OWS movement. Early in the Wisconsin fight student occupied the Capitol and the OWS literally got it birth in the WI student movement. The decent citizen of Wisconsin has rejected this kind of political expression with this vote.

A third loser for the night, is the DEM political leader that felt the political process could simply altered by a costly recount vote, when it did not meet their viewpoint. They fled the state rather work with the Walker administration, and show a lack of character and determination to work for the people of Wisconsin. The people spoke tonight to their flight from the state.

The fourth loser tonight is President Obama. He has used Wisconsin as a tip off state for many of his policies and programs. He spoke often during the 2008 election at the University of Wisconsin. He won the state by double digits in 2008. Tonight the people of Wisconsin spoke for a Tea Party candidate with a double digit vote against the President.

Small business won tonight is Wisconsin. The straggle hold that earlier DEM administration and big unions have on small business
was broken in the vote. Walker small business program have dropped the
unemployment rate by a 1% and made 29,000 jobs.

The Tea Party won tonight. Not only was Walker a Tea Party candidate place into the 2010 by Sarah Palin, he used Tea Party policies
to change the dynamics of the state.

Mitt Romney won tonight. Clearly the voice of conservatism was heard in this vote. American conservatism that is innovating. Embracing of
all. Steady in a decent leadership.

But the bigger winner tonight, is the American people. That continued to take back their government

RE: Why Not fully back Kofi Annan and give peace a chance in Syria

Getting your Russian Peace keepers just got alot harder to do.

20.....2 Russian and 18 Ukraine/Bellarussian were just sentenced in Libya by the rebel group that ouster Qdaffi from power.....for aiding Qadffi forces by manning a anti aircraft missile system.

Russia is protesting with "outrage"

The leader of the group is a Russian.....they gave him life in Prison.

Supposedly they were down in Libya on a oil project, when Qdaffi forces took them captive and forced them to man anti aircraft missile systems. How you go from oil rig training to manning a complex anti missile is anyone quess....

I just see this as a slight complication to getting the 300,000 Russian peace keepers you need for Syria.

RE: Why Not fully back Kofi Annan and give peace a chance in Syria

Part two

Know why the atrocities happened? Take a guess.

See we have seen this in the past. Sadam Hussien used the same tactics on the Kurds in Northern Iraq. Remember he had the pushed out many kurds of northern Iraq into the southern area of Turkey? All those camps in the Turkish hills.....with no water....with little food....with no shelter.

Well just take the hills to be the eastern side of the Baka Valley hills just across the Lebanon border. Assad people or the Russian want to reduce the Sunni presence in the western side of Syria. So they start these atrocities....knowing Sunni men will move their families to safety across the border. So fewer Sunni men to fight.

That is exactly what is happening here.

But for the Irish and French peace keeper in Lebanon.....allot of bad is coming. Summer time they can live outside. But come fall and winter....they food/shelter/heat....the Sunni will begin to raid down into the Hezbollah held villages that the UN Peace Keeper protect.
Or go to the main cities.....

These little troubles in Lebanon, now?....those are only scouting groups of Sunni getting caught in the cities. Scouting for what? Food, fuel, shelter.....for their families up in the Baka Valley hills.

So I would not be so picky about the Peace Keeper that I found for Syria. If you can beg, borrow, or steal them for Syria from Russia, China, or Africa....you better do it. If doing some hard ball politics on Putin is below your high moral standards.....it will Irish peace keeper in the body bags. You can explain that high moral standard to their families.

By the way.....this scenario of a large Russian army being in Syria....is one of the Christian signs for Armeneggdon. The final battle and final war. So in the past, I would not have recommended it.

But......

But little Isreal just finished her nuclear triage. She has nuc missiles, nuc aircraft and now....nuc subs. So the first Russian troops that steps across the border into Israel. Moscow is toast.
Putin does not want that. So he will keep them inside Syria.

But who knows.....everyone and anyone can get lost at times. Are not you glad Israel fenced and walled that Syrian border now?

RE: Why Not fully back Kofi Annan and give peace a chance in Syria

I thought you wanted to stop the killing in Syria. Save the 1000s of Syrian that are dying.

Kofi Annan cannot do it alone. He needs peace keeper. If Russia has them. Why not use them.

But you are going to play some hard politics on Mr. Putin to do so.
Placing his UN Security Council seat on the line....is playing some hard ball politics. Aren't Russian peace keeper good enough for you? What is wrong with 300,000 Russian in Syria? Russia is putting 15,000-20,000 in there now. Just add some more and give them cans of blue spray paint.

Are you saying the General Assembly cannot write such a resolution on Russia? Heck it writes such resolutions on Israel all the time. Give up this quarter acre of land or the UN will fly the Isreali Flag up side down in protest.

The UN gave the US a mandate to over fly Iraq and to protect the Kurds and Shia.....we did exactly that.....even in the invasion and occupation of Iraq. Is Russia to big to obey a UN mandate?

No, you don't want Russian troops in there. You want American troops in there......so they can be target for all the foreign fighter that are in Syria. You just wish to kill Americans with your Kofi Annan plan.

Why did Kofi Annan come straight to the United States after his Syria
visit? Because he knows that the United States is best hope to find a major peace keeping force for the country. Screw that....pardon the French.

No, we have other military plans for American....those military options for Iran....remember? I said Syria is only a diversion to our real threat. That threat is not Syria. But this why ever US troops under a UN command is such a really bad idea.

But sending some Russian troops into peace keep in Syria give me a real thrill up my leg. Just the thought of having Russia with a large deployeed force in a very hostile land give me quivers. After what Russia did in Afghanistan and Chechnya.

It would give the people of Syria real thrills and quivers as well.
Ever stop to think....that the atrocity doers just might be Russian?
Because that is exactly the kind of thing they did in both places.

But let us not speculate. We can just wait for Assad and Annan to tell us who did them. Assad is already saying it was not his people. It was to monsterous a thing to do.

end of fist part.

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

Progressives are going to be President Obama worst enemies in the coming election.....

After his comments that the returning Vet Nam vet were treated horribly...this to 'set up' Sect. of Defense Penetta's visit to Vet Nam. We have the story of a liberal progressive woman that refused to refuse to rent a apartment to returning Iraq/Afghanistan vet.

Yes, because of his military service. She must have read Janet N's TSA white paper that returning Iraq and Afghan vets might be terrorists.

But here are the details....

Returning National Guardsman Sgt Joel Morgan, 29 wanted to rent the $1200 per month Savin Hill, Dorchester month apartment from Janice Roberts 63. She a strong progressive with anti war believes.

In the negations, Sgt. Morgan receives the following....'that they have a conflict of interest and he would be better seeking housing elsewere." But that is not enough.....as she continues...."It is not going to be comfortable for us without a doubt. It would be better that you look for a place that is a little bit less politically active and controversial."

The thing was....the 63 year old Progress Roberts....left the messages on Morgan voice mail box. They are now his evidence to a housing discrimination lawsuit for his America military service. Sometimes Progressives are just not that smart.

So ain't that peachy keen. A liberal progressive getting sued for being discriminating against a American veteran. Going into the 2012 re-election cycle....just after the President tells the country how badly Vet Nam vet were treated when they came home......

Welcome back Sgt Morgan. If you need a place to hang your hat in Florida. Contact me.....

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

PS

If Walker wins...expect about 2/3rd of the countries Governors to follow his union breaking tactics.....so much is on the line in WI today.

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

Polling is showing that the country still "likes" President Obama.
55% like him as a person. But only 43% like his policies.

The one who is getting clobbered in the polls right now....is VP
Biden. Romney can select a pedolphila, face eating, koran burning,
radical transvite as his VP candidate, and he/she would have more approval than Biden...))

66% of the country consider it to be on the 'wrong track'. So much
for the idea....of getting the car out of the ditch.....or giving the keys to someone with driving skills and a license.

With 66% of the country wanting to abandon ship, we might have to invade both Canada and Mexico to find room for them to leave.
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This is Gov. Scott Walker day to massive damage to Obama's reelection campaign.

If he flames the DEM recall vote.....in a State that went big for
Obama in 2008.....Wisconsin can be either considered a break even state or to be in the REP column for the 2012. WI is pretty representative of the country demographically.

The recall election is costing WI $17m to run. I wonder how many teachers, police officers, firefighter that might employ? But the DEM got their 900,000 names for a recall.....so they have to go thru with it.

Did you hear that Gov Walker has the State deficit of 3.2b went he took office knocked down to zero. That he has employed 23,000 and that brought the state's unemployment down to well below the countries average of 8.2%...some were around 6.7%. He inherited a 7.7 unemployment rate. That the schools , fire departments and police station are still open and functioning.....this after doing in the union agreements.

For many of the teachers....seeing tenure go away is a good thing. Means that they can advance faster to being department heads and a bigger pay check. Same thing for police and firemen with senority being done away with. Means the qualified can move up the ladder faster. So how solid the unions are to support the DEM candidate at this point is a real question.

Last night the polling had tightened to Walker leading by 3%. Rumor is that.....the DEM are going to standing outside the today's polls with another recall petition to be signed.....))) No matter what the vote is, they simply don't like Walker. Or maybe they just don't like being lead by a Tea Party favorite.))

Also Walker beat this same DEM candidate by 5% the last time. If he beats him worse this time, nothing good for the DEM have happened in
Wisconsin for the last couple of years. So much for all the dramatics of the DEM legislator walk out and the Union occupy the capitol. Which reflects on the DEM and OWS tactics of the last couple of years.

This is Barack Obama home stomping grounds. Wisconsin sits on top of Obama's home state. They share alot of the same issues and problems.
So REP thinking is Walker can do some real Obama damage here.

Wisconsin polls should be opening....in about a hour. Media is going to be all over this one as being a warm up for their 2012 coverage.

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

I just picked up the new break down of IND/DEM/REP......

IND again picked up numbers from the two parties.....is now at 38%
DEM were at................................................... 34%
REP were at................................................... 28%

By the time the election get finished and all the negative campaigning gets done.....DEM will have 5%....REP will have 3% and IND will be 92%
doh

RE: Why Not fully back Kofi Annan and give peace a chance in Syria

I think that i have your answer Iseek.

Kobi Annan just came to the United States to seek help for the Syrian crisis. What help he is planning to ask for....is unknown at this time.
But I am just guessing....that with our military withdrawal from Iraq and having a 150,000 combat troops back home from the region. He just might be asking for US peace keepers for Syria.

Politically for this Irish American President Obama ...)).....that is not a very good suggestion. The REP will scald him alive before the November election if he places peace keepers into Syria. He was the one to get us out of the Iraq, remember? He has Iran to deal with. And he just did a undeclared war in Libya. He has a very tight race ahead at best right now he has a 3 point lead on Romney. The chance that he will place US peace keeper in Syria.....is very small. Obama is a very cautious man.

But I wish to be fair here.

So think that there is a counter proposal that the White House can offer to the Kobi Annan. But with your vast knowledge on the area and such a desire to help the Syrian people. I just decided to get your opinion.

Since the Russian are going to veto any security council resolution on
Syria....they have and Putin says that they will in the future. Why not pass a General Assembly resolution committing 300,000 Russian peace keeper to Syria for say a three years.

If Russia fails to place the 300,000 peace keepers into Syria. Russia loses its security council seat for three year. No veto to block any plan Kobi Annan plan for Syria.

I know it is just me, I like to put political incentives on the table.
I also like to place all the cards on the table.....again just me.

If Russia is still a military super power....placing 300,000 troops into Syria...is no big deal. Then again if Russia is a paper tiger....placing 300,000 troops and supporting them for 3 years is not within Russia's military abilities. Putin's Russia just stepped in a big opps and all the world will know it.

But hey you and Kobi Annan win either way. Russia can peace keep. Which is want you want. A major country to peace keep the civil war. Or if Russia cannot, it loses its veto on the security council. Then Kobi Annan can get his Syrian resolution passed. So it is a win win.

So what say you?

Now I might suggest you remember middle east history. The US for 10 year flew the Iraqi no fly zones protecting the Kurds and Shia from Sadam Hussien after the first Gulf war. And we were in Iraq with only 150,000 annually for the last 10 years. So I am giving Russia less time to get the peace keeping mission done and more manpower.....to do it with. I can be fair. ))

If you will write it up for a Irish government proposal. I will write it up for the White House to review and suggest to Kobi Annan.

RE: Why Not fully back Kofi Annan and give peace a chance in Syria

According the Russian....this is a civil war. Is anyone innocent in a civil war? That is a tricky question. Maybe to hard for you to handle.

I have suggested in the past....that Muslims cut the weapons flows to the middle east. Run sting operations on the arms dealers like Blout.
Earlier I showed others land obstacling in Iraq that I have direct responsilbity. I have saved more Muslim lives in Iraq and
Kosovo that have been killed in Syria.

But since you are now having this "bit of trouble" coming at your peace keepers in Lebanon....I shared that land obstacling idea again. To see if there was anyone serious here about saving Irish and French lives. Clearly since you don't read my post well enough to understand them with out some petty name calling.

So in the future.....don't ask. Because I don't intend to keep giving ideas to pull Irish and French butts out coming trouble. Enjoy the ride Gentlemen. When your SUVs start flipping in Lebanon and Syria from road side IEDs.....don't say we did not warn you.

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

A search for truth is President Obama's strong suit? Sure it is...))
The DEM Senate is so scared of telling the people the truth about how much money that they have spent since he took office in 2008.....they have not passed a budget in four years.

The Fast and Furious emails are being kept so deep in the DEM White House computers systems that it takes a five star security pass with a handwritten note from the Oval office to access them. Likely the hard copies of the Fast and Furious emails are in new the multi million dollar top secret White House vault that is being dug under the Oval office.

They call it the Obama safe room from the rioting peasants with pitch forks and brooms (just think the 1974 Young Frankenstien movie)...))

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Changing the subject to Campaign financing:

Do you know how many Bundlers of campaign donations that the Obama administration has? ......................................answer 369
How many Bundlers got jobs with his administration........answer 69

So one in five bundler that raises from $50,000 to $5m in campaign donations and gets a be part of his government. Two were ambassador appointments....both failed. Both left the post before the
end of the appointment. One because mismanagement. One because of
she was aggressive and ill tempered. Most of the rest were likely in his SES group of 4500. Making a cool $100,000 per year with benefits
and expenses. Not bad for bundling.....

But that does not mean they have a clue for running a government. Bundling is stuffing a $2500 check into briefcase or hand bag from close friend or business associate.......a teenager can do that....

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I got the new cost of the CA high speed rail system wrong the other day. I said it was 18b...wrong.....try 68b. It has gone from 6b to 68b in only three years time. No cost over runs here. They are going to pave the high speed rail traks with .999 silver and make the trains from pure 21 c gold. So who says we cannot buy some titanium ships?

Ships coming into Nancy Pelosi's San Franisco Bay are going to have to be Platiumum or Titanium just just so they look good along side the high speed gold train that is there.

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I got another invite to attend the Jessica Parker/Obama appratment diner. This time from Michele Obama....just donate $3 and if you are the one pulled from the hat.....you get free air and tickets to attend.

I thought about sending in the $3. But it would break my policy of never giving anything to a politician any thing that he does not earn. I have never donated to either party......)))

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

OH heck yes, give me a tamborine and I fit in anyplace.

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

So do you think that the Obama administration is going to involve the US in another war in South East Asia?

The reason I ask is this. Sec't. of Defense Penetta is in Vet Nam at te port of Dang Nang.....were he is asking for a closer military involvement with Vet Nam.

Now you need to understand that Vet Nam and China have fought border skirmishes over disputed land along the border. Right now the Scartity
Islands in the middle of the South China Sea is sought by 6 different countries. China being one of them. Taiwan, Vet Nam, Phillipine, Borneo, Sinapore are the others. they just happened to make a major off shore oil field strike there as well.....

It sounds like Penetta is talking about using Vet Nam's deep sea port as another Subic Bay....placing a fleet there...maybe a battle carrier fleet. It would be right in China's back yard. We saw how China reacted to only 2500 marine being stationed in Northern Australia.

You place a US fleet at berth in Vet Nam....the Chinese are going to shout USA go home. Not to mention that if China and Vet Nam decide to go hot over the disputed land and islands....the US is right in middle of the kabooms.

This is like the Taiwan thingee.....Only Vet Nam is a communist country. Why place Americans at risk for a communist country? If China wants to consume one of its own spin offs.....hey communist eating communist has been done in the past. No reason for the US to get involved. Just sit back and watch the kabooms.

So the politics of the situation makes little sense to me. Penetta wants to get more Vet Nam support for finding the still missing 2500 Americans from the Vet Nam war. But do we need to base a fleet there to get that?

Well if we do....lets us make it a titanium fleet.....they stand up better to the kabooms.

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

The polls in Wisconsin are showing that Walker is leading by 7 points.
This might be weakening some.

Even though Bill Clinton has gone into the state to support the Unions,
the Obama administration has not. Unions seeing little support are realizing that they have been used as a administration pawn. They don't like that at all! The feeling in the White House is that Scott is going to win, and they don't want to be associated with a lose.

But the big winner in coming the refferrdum on Scott Walkers Governorship.....is the Tea Party. The Tea Party has many active groups in the states. They of course strongly support Walker.

If the Tea Party and REP blunt the union thrust in Wisconsin.....this will show that the forces in play since the 2010 midterm.....are still strong in the country. Even thought President Obama lead Romney in the state by 8 points. He beat McCain by double digits in Wisconsin in 2008. So the gap there even closes.

If Scott Walker TKOs his recall.....a right cross the Presidents re-election has been delivered. What is worse, the President did not even step into the ring to catch the punch and rather he let the unions take it for him.

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

One can get a taste for the American view of things from what the American watches in the theatre. This is one of those little known polling technique and message making techniques that political writers have picked up on.

If they are watching ....say.....science fiction, then they have a taste for illusionary rhetoric from their leaders. If they are watching hard line historical......they want the fact and only the facts. If they are watching romance.....they want flowery and pattie cake rhetoric. If they are watching WWII movies....give them red white and blue.

Get the drift?

Well President Obama speaking style goes to the illusionary style message well. Hope and Change......Forward......etcetcetc......it goes will with the sci fi movie appetite.

John Carter...a sci fi movie....bombed earlier in the year. Now Battleship....another sci fi movie.....just bombed at the box office.
American coming out of the one of the longest economic recession in modern history.....don't want illusionary rhetoric. They want the hard stuff either fact and only the facts or red, white and blue patriotism.

We have seen some of the Iraq and Afghanistan movies do pretty well in the box office. A Act of Valor did very well. So did Red Tails. But both come back to the US being a supposed 'war weary country". The DEM have taken the message here, that the illusionary rhetoric is still connecting. They have used the term....'war weary country"....to naseuating levels. This is to give reason for the withdrawals.

But if that the case....why did Act of Valor do well in the box office?
Why did Battleship sink like the Bismark? Ah yes, both have military theme. But one is hard and real and the other illusionary.

President Obama to win in November needs to changes his message. Illusionary is not working today. Romney to clean up the IND vote needs to get hard and real with his economic message. He needs to give the hard details to how he will improve the economy.

Americans are oh so tired of Politician that glosses over the key issues and give them soft marshmellow messages that cover all the voting blocks. They want the politician that is going to tell them the truth. They deserve it and ...this year will demand it.

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

I did not know that when black on black crime occurs in the US.....that it was all a GOP plot. Maybe you can tell us how that works some?

Jesse Jackson and REV Sharpton would have us think that it is because of the oppressed and disadvantaged black conditions in the country.

But most of it is caused by illegal drugs.

Drugs that are coming up from South American...through the open SW border fence. Drugs like the new ones so powerful....you get face eating in Miami.

When a black leader fails to halt such drug shipments....what is the message to the black community? Dealing is OK....yes?

Obama sent those 2000 FAST and FURIOUS weapons to the cartels to do several things.

1) create chaos in the hispanic border cities to bring hispnaic north for the 2012

2) allow the cartels to establish their turfs and routes into the US

3) to guard the drugs that they were bringing into the country

The prior GWB administration had really began to close of the border to drugs with the fence and with program that kept the cartels from resources. He placed the National Guard along the border. Obama takes them away from the border. Only to bring back a small percentage of them.

It is pretty clear to even many black community leaders, that President Obama is supporting black community drug dealing and the crime it makes.

Travlon Martin had been kicked out of his Miami high school for minor drug possession and use. he drugs in his system the night of the incident. Had he not been, he would not been in Sanford Florida the night of the incident. He would be down Miami going to school. Do black leaders say that? No.

Drug are either the cause or a contributing factor to much of the black on black crime and all crime related in the country. But this President has found ways to increase its import into the country.

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