RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

OMG.....and I don't say that often.

Michele Obama just invited me on the Campaign bus with Barack Obama.
Yes me and one 'supporter' can ride on the Obama/Biden campaign bus
if I win the raffle after my $3 donation is processed.

To have a shot at riding on the Obama/Biden campaign bus is almost worth the $3 raffle ticket......were they would put me on the bus? Down in the luggage section below? Riding on the top with the SAT dish? Please don't let me say in the back seats with Rosa Parker.....grin

Gesh to $3 raffle off a bus trip with Barack Obama, the campaign has to be running into the some real money trouble. Did I say Mitt Romney collected $4.3m following the Supreme court ruling. Funny how the Obama administration did not say how much this great legal victory of the ACA got them in donation.

But back to the idea of spending several hours on a campaign bus....yes one of those Canadian built $2m black RVs.....with Barack Obama. OH what a conversation we could have.

He would take one look at my 6'3" and 275# of former football player/drill instructor/with a poly sci degree....and realize the fight was on.

Do you really think that with Air Force One....he really takes a campaign bus any more? LOL........we both know the answer there.
He is putting more frequent flyer miles in it going to campaign functions that they are going to need to re-engine the plane in
2013 after the election.

LOL.......well If I get the raffle ticket and win the bus trip.....what will you give me for to come as my Obama supporter?

tongue

RE: Why Not fully back Kofi Annan and give peace a chance in Syria

Funny how you failed to include Annan term that Assad step down and the Russian blocking the motion....Iseek.

I quote for this article by John Helphrin AP

"Annan seemed confident of his plan a few days ago, but Russia has refused to back a provision that would call for Assad to step down to make way for a unity government, a stance that would torpedo the entire deal."

news.yahoo.com/mood-pessimistic-on-syrian-peace-plans-125158520.html

RE: Why Not fully back Kofi Annan and give peace a chance in Syria

Kofi Annan met with Russian, US, China, UK and others to save his most recent peace plan for Syria. This plan unlike his first, called
for Assad to step down.

With that term in the plan, Russia quickly rejected it. So any
UN sponsored peace. with such a term for Assad removal is unsuitable
for the Russian that have decided to back Assad. Assad of course see enemies at all angles and sectors......

Except from Russia and Iran. There Assad is the surrogate and proxie dictator willing to use Russian HIND gun ship on his people and to let Iranian Revolutionary Guard officers to control Alawite units in the field.

So just like Qdaffi that brought in African mercs, Assad has brought in Iranian and Russian mercs. Sure call then anti terrorist commandos or technical military assistance. But the pure definition of a merc is a soldier that comes into a civil war to render assistance to one of the combatants.

Sure tell us that Amhmenajada and Putin will not act outside of their countries with their military forces as mercenary. Just disguised as a anti terrorist commandos or disguised a technical support. Even if the Iranian sent in is working a radio in a technical support role, he has freed up a Syrian soldier for Assad to use to put down the Sunni rebellion.

So surely Assad is using mercs in this conflict. That just like Qdaffi African mercs had little military command and control over them. Did the Russian counter terrorist units operation help to quell the number of atrocities in the country after deployment? If they were truly
anti terrorist, one wold think that. But no, since their deployment, atrocitied have only grown in number the deaths.

Please don't tell me that Russian Spetnaz units don't know their stuff when it comes to counter terrorism. Remember Chechyna for a moment. What tactics in Chechyna did Russian counter terrorist units take?
Mass murder of any that stood against them. Putin likely sent in
Spetnaz units that had a long hisotory in deal with such local communities. Putin was the KGB commander of both Chechnyan conflicts.

So with the UN observers contained. Russian Spetnaz units and Iranian Revolutionary Guard led Alawite hit team have free reign in the country to mass murder as many Sunni as they can find. Including women and children.

The UN and the Hague's International War Crime Tribunal should start investigations into both Russian and Iranian deployments into Syria.
Using Sunni living witnesses to the atrocities to bring Russian and Iranian parties to the court to face crimes against humanity charges.
Once they are proven....to bring President Putin and President Ahmenajada to the court to face the charges just like Serbian President Milosovic is facing.

But with Russia holding the 'oil card' over European heads.....we know that will not happen.......

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

The Supreme Courts ruling on ACA being a tax........Also does this.

It just killed the President argument that religious organization (most of whom are tax exempt) from paying for birth control that ACA required.

So while the administration was arguing in the Supreme court that the
ACA was a tax. It was at the same time bully puplbiting Church organization with the ACA to pay for women's birth control and abortions.It knew it was a ACA tax. But wanted to stir the pot....on women's rights.....for the 2012 Presidential.

This is why this is such a poor American administration. President Obama attempted to use a legal authority he did not have to force a heated debate issue on religious organization of the country. All the time, knowing he did not have the authority, either by Supreme court ruling and by the vary argument his Solictor General was making in the court.

Good governace attempts to keep peace within society and its institutions. This one just stirs the pot hoping to make votes with photo opts.


Bobby Jindal has seen the light on Obamacare. So likely have the Governors of the other 25 states that pressed the Supreme court case on ACA. The ACA has a state option, so State's can opt out of the program. Jindal is not enacting Obamacare. So should Florida and the other states that don't want massive budget deficits in the future.

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

Egyptian President Morsi had made a very strong statement to getting the blind Shiek who was responsible for the first World Trade Center bombing
released.

The Blind Shiekh Omar Abdul-Ratham is Egytian and a radical Islamic cleric. He has a life time sentence in the first World Trade center
that killed 19.

Now how will President Obama and AG Holder respond to this request for
release?

If their standard dodge and weave is working, they will try to back burner the request until after the 2012 Presidential. Just like Obama asked Medvedev to have Putin give him space until after the 2012.
We have seen how well that worked in Syria....were Putin has back the
Assad government with troops, weapons and helos.

Also AG Holder has taken a real hit in Congress on the Fast and Furious gun program. The old dodge and weave might not be working very well. Congress is following AG Holder every move very carefully.

President Morsi, if he see Obama's approvals falling.....will press the issue. He knows that a President Romney is not going to free the blind Shiek. So he is going to want a release before election and certainly after in the transtition period if Romney wins.

What will President Obama do? He has the Jewish voters watching this.
He has the New York vote watching this one. He has a the military watching this one. But the way, Islamic Egypt treated his NGOs has to be weighed in as well. He knows that unofficially America is not welcomed in modern Egypt. Our tourist are welcomed to be possible kidnapping victims.

Personally, I see US taxpayer dollars coming into this. To keep Morsi from pressing the release request. Obama will increase grant and aid to Egypt....not the military mind you.....but in General aid funding. The Blind shiekh issues goes away till after the election.
Just little international bribery our present President is willing to pay for a election issue.

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

The ACA was a tax in 2008, in 2009, in 2010, in 2011, and in 4 liberal judges (two appointed by President Obama accepted the legal arguement
of the Solicitor General) that it was a tax.

President Obama told us the ACA was not a tax 1n 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011 and even now in 2012.

Some are now calling that legislation by deception.....

RE: Why Not fully back Kofi Annan and give peace a chance in Syria

Well I bet that not one NATO (other than now Turkish) troop ever steps into Syria. That this is going to be a Arab League and Turkey affair when it comes to Assad's Syria.

You have NATO forces (French)in Lebanon ...doing UN Peace keeping.
So NATO is in the region. But they will not do much in Syria, that
you can see.......

RE: Supreme Court upholds Obamacare

That ACA was a tax in 2008, in 2009, in 2010, in 2011 and then in 2012.
4 Liberal judges (two appointed by President Obama) ruled that it was a
tax. The President of the United States said that it was a not tax, that it fell under the commerce section of the Constitution.

I would say that all things being equal......our President either does not know the Constitution. Or was fibbing to us.

Summer Olympics Games are coming to London in a month. Boring? Exciting?

Next time I saw my roomie, he was in the national wrestling competition to make the team for Athens, about 12 years later.
I was living CA at the time. And the team competition was in Squaw Valley. So I made it a point to swing by ans ee him.

We had lunch. He did not say anything about it. But I got the hint when I went back to my car to leave....and it was filled with rocks.....that he has not forgotten. wow

Ah just joking.

I did ask him if still had the Austin Healey and if he had driven it to Squaw Valley for the national team competition. He was married now with a young one......so the very small Austin Healey was gone. I did buy lunch. Maybe that helped to sooth his angry. At least he did not throw a two legs take down on me and pile drive my head into the floor

RE: Why Not fully back Kofi Annan and give peace a chance in Syria

Could it be since Assad is at "war with all angles" that he sees every Sunni Syrian as a angle to be war with?

RE: USA Gets Prepared......,Just In Case....

Here in Florida.....edible Europeans are all the rage.........grin tongue

RE: Afghanistan the Graveyard of Supper Powers

Just a simple question.

Did the Pakistan free press and media....tell the Pakistani people about Musharreff's coup to come to power?

RE: Supreme Court upholds Obamacare

Cannot anyone say a re-energized REP base with a Tea Party solidly behind Romney and any VP choice that he makes now?

That is what the Supreme Court ACA ruling gives Mitt Romney for the fall.

We have waves of the 2010 mid term election.....again raising up all over the country..............grin

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

Who said it (Obamacare) is not a tax?

President Obama and the DEM when they passed ACA in 2009.

What did Judge Roberts and 4 liberal Supreme Court rules that ACA was?

They ruled it was a tax, that Congress has the power to tax. But only has limited powers to regulate commerce.

So what we have now is one of the largest taxes in American history. And a President and governing party that fraudlently presented it to the American people in 2009.

President Obama has said that middle class taxes will be declining under his administration. Not now. With the ACA being ruled a tax,
American middle will be paying 1000s more in 2016 FED taxes.

I was at lunch yesterday when the ruling came. I was being sat be mid 60 ages woman. She began to smile as the ruling was read. She saw it as a means to low cost health insurance to be part of the group that is
government covered. Later the restraunt manager sat with me. As we talked about the ruling....he said it would coast him and his wife
$9000 dollar a year to get coverage for their family of 5.

Now were do you think that he going to get that $9000?

He employs about 50 at this restraunt. If he cuts his staff by only one person.....he can make the $9000 and even more. Assuming the 49 pick up the extra work for the one.

For small business now with ACA being ruled a tax, this is going to be a major reason not to hire. Unemployment will only increase from here to the November 2012 election, is my opinion.

Lastly Judge Roberts ...on whom shoulders the ACA ruling really rested. Has re-energized the TEA Party. To support a mid road REP Romney, that is promising to revoke the ACA if elected.

All told....President Obama has won a battle on the ACA ruling.
He also might have lost the 2012 Election.....he is tainted as a liar to make legislation by four liberal judges that say that ACA is a tax. He now placing the biggest tax on Americans, in our countries history.

RE: Supreme Court upholds Obamacare

Just a question here.

But could Chief Justice Roberts voted to keep Obamacare....so there would be a polarization of the American electrorate? Since the 2010 mid term was forum on Obama and a massive REP/Tea party victory?
So what Robert really did was to place it back into the public forum with the 2012 Presidential to decide.

RE: Fast & Furious scandal is a LIE, it never happened.

It is officially now a word game Ooby. Till the Obama administration releases the documents (if ever) none will know what the intents of the program were and were not.

One thing for certain. Border Patrol Agent Terry is buried.........

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

AG Holder has the unique distinction to be the first Attroney General of the United States to criminally indicted for contempt by the House. Now it goes to the Senate.

17 DEM crossed over to vote on one indictment charge. 21 DEM crossed over
to vote on the second charge.

All the needs to happen in the Senate, is for 2 DEM Senators to cross over and AG Holder is facing jail time or censor.

Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi Led the DEM in a protest walk out during the vote. Memories of Wisconsin DEM tat hidden for 2 weeks.

AG Holder needs to change his BBQ sauce.......because now Senate Minority Leader McConnell is looking to baste him in the one that he used yesterday.

Summer Olympics Games are coming to London in a month. Boring? Exciting?

Beside all he had to to do....was dig slight into snow pile to find his car.....our Car were covered in heavy snow all the time in MIchigan......

Summer Olympics Games are coming to London in a month. Boring? Exciting?

American College and University.....is gags and pranks much of the time.
You have to develop a sense of humor to go along with a education. Makes you a rounded person. He got his pranks in on me as well.

You seem overly sensitive to a college prank that happened back 1972. I am pretty sure he has forgotten by now. But then again, I have not.

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

The big day for the Supreme Court has arrived. The reporters and media will be gathering on the steps of the Supreme Court at or around 10 AM EST for its ruling on ACA (Obamacare).

Boehner has promised that any section not stricken by the Supreme Court,his Congress will legislate a repeal.

Romney has said his first day in the White House, he line item veto the entire bill.

So think that this was not a hotly debated issue in America?

It was.

Nothing has so taken the lives of Americans in debate in this country for the last 3 years other than Obamacare. Not the war in Afghanistan.
Not the failing economy. Not the leaks and corruptions coming from the Obama administration.

The amount of media air time spent on Obamacare and media inches of print....is uncountable. People would talk about it at lunch counters, gas stations, homes and work.

It went to the heart of what this country is about. Is it a country of government mandates or is it a country of individual choices. On the side of government mandate is most of the liberal thinkers in the world. Make a big government to solve the problems of the people.

On the side of the freedom of choice, is the Constitutionalist and liberitarian of the world. People have a right to choose and to make even make bad choices. It is a live and learn world.

I fall in the later group. A strong believer that you live and learn. That your freedom to decide what is right for you and yours, out weights the knowledge and power of a government with experts.

What ever the Supreme Court ruling is. This issue will return in the future. DEMs will continue to make it a cause de celbrey. REP will stand opposed. Caught in the middle are 312m Americans and the countries health care system. If stricken President Obama will address it again 200 times in his re-election campaign. If left untouched, both Boehner and Romney will continue to find reason to null it.

But the best health care you can get...and it is free. Comes from above. It is not mandated. But a free will choice.......so for me come 10 EST...this debate is officially over with.grin

RE: If you get a chance to become US president for one day what will you do for the world in 24 hours?

Destroy every terrorist facility and camp in Pakistan, maybe?

Summer Olympics Games are coming to London in a month. Boring? Exciting?

Of course you want the US to win everything. We need the precious metals in the medals to help cover our national debt.)))

I have known a few US Olpmpians. Most are class acts. Though if I told my college roomie that.....155 pound greco freestyle wrestling bronze winner in the Athens games ....he would faint.

Ah well it was so sweet to cover his austin heally totally in snow one winter holiday break. He thought the car was stolen from parking lot. he reproted it to the police and called his dad to pick him up. Two weeks later....we return to school....there sat his car. The snow had melted.

I did not tell him until summer vacation (4 months later) and I was leaving the dorm.....that I had covered his car with snow. As I left....all I said...."it has to be easier to find your car now, with out all that snow on it".

It took a moment to set it. Then he got this very strange ....like he wanted something...er then someone to destroy. I was 20 yards away and headed to my car. He was small.....but really tough. I had seen him drop a starting 260 pound middle linebacker from the football team one time. I did not want the summer to be spent in a hospital.))

Summer Olympics Games are coming to London in a month. Boring? Exciting?

I had heard that as well. Time are tough all over. So when you get the chance......clearly when events are planned like this, there is a chance.

The sponsoring body (in this case the Olympic Games) should make sure that the corporate sponsors don't price hike. If your firm can add the five Olympic rings to a promotion materials and still price hikes.....
thumbs down

Summer Olympics Games are coming to London in a month. Boring? Exciting?

Great post.....I pity the Londoners that were in the beta (palicbo) test of this........

RE: Why Not fully back Kofi Annan and give peace a chance in Syria

In perhaps one of the most vague declaration of War, heard in modern time. President Assad.....just declared war. Just from his statement, it totally unknown whom Syria just declared war on. I will quote.

"We live in a real state of war from all angles. When we are in war,
all policies, and all sides, and all sectors need to be directed at winning the war."

Now Washington has been saying for the last week....that Assad is 'losing control' and 'losing it'. Well he just declared war on "all angles". As much I would like to, I am not going to place words in President Assad's mouth to clarify his statement.

But if I was a young Syrian 2nd Lt standing on his tank....at the Turkish border, the Jordan border, the Suadi border....and I had heard Assad's TV message earlier in the day. That night when the Jordan, Turkish or Suadi border patrol unit went by.....I am loading up my
Tank cannon with a round and taking aim. I got my finger on the trigger ready to fire.

Assad's vague message to his stressed Alawite army.....shoot them before they shoot you. And it is a vague message to have border fights with Turkish, Jordan and Suadi mil units.It was carefully scripted for just this.

I will be very surprised if Syrian border incidents don't begin soon......

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

Thanks for that clarification. But try this

But it was Harry Reids Senate that could not pass a budget

It was Obama DoJ that did not go after the Insurance firms when the
wrote those massive commission checks

He knew shovel ready infrastructure projects were not there...he was just playing politic trying to buy local and state support. He was a former state legislature from IL....he knew better and know how the FED/STATE/Local game is played.

The GSA had his SES appointed staffers over it. Not REP.....

DoD was cut to fund his nanny state programs and food stamps.

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

Dude, I stand behind that post 100%.

No budget for 4 years from Reid's Senate.
None of his infrastructure promises have been kept
Insurance firms paid their executive gigantic commissions after the bailout.
GSA partied on the tax payers dollar.
DoD was cut billions

And

President Obama indebted the country by 5 Trillion.......so if Romney had his millions to account for....Obama has his billions to account for.

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

I have to agree with this poll 100% This is likely the best poll done in the last 6 years of political polling in the United States.

What the poll found was......65% of American think that President Obama is the right man to face a space alien invasion.

I so whole hardly embrace the this idea. I think he should be the first man to greet the alien invaders...e.g. like the movie....Invasion from Mars. Then standing right behind him....is VP Joe Biden.

What a idea! Think of the things, he can say........to them

1) We are sorry for the space debrie floating around LEO that might have impacted your advanced space craft with that assortment of high energy directed weapons.

2) If you want NASA, I can sell it to you for cheap.

3) Don't mind our radical Islamic friends. Just don't go to the moon, or you might offend them.

4) This is my VP Joe Biden, I don't understand him either. But maybe will do better in his native alien language.

5) Is that a ray gun in your pocket..............help

rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing tongue

news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/sixty-five-percent-americans-obama-better-suited-to-handle-171143465.html

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

How badly Obamacare written?

Coming from the desk of Newt Grinrich is this. That the DEM wrote it without a "severability clause".

As Grinirch, someone with a lot of legislative experience points out...
in large bills....of many pages....it is wise to place a severability clause into it. This allows one section of the bill to be made unconstitutional, while keeping others.

But seems that the DEM did not include such a clause in Obama care.

Meaning the court's hands are tied. It either declares the entire bill unconstitutional or keeps the entire bill. Now I ask you....how can all 1300 pages be Constitutional?

Common on. The Constitution is only five sections long and 27 admendments. There is no specific section of the Constitution direct on point to the Health of the nation's populace. How can all 1300 pages of ACA being with in the constraints of the Constitution?

The interesting thing is....when they wrote the Constitution, they included a exception clause. Which is pretty close to a severability
clause.

So clearly the legal eagles of the DEM knew of severability and exceptions clauses. They have done 100s of piece of legislation is past. So why not in Obamacare?

I cannot and refuse to get into the minds of Pelosi, Reid and Teddy Kennedy.....but I think it was just for this Supreme Court decision prior to the 2012 Presidential campaign. When they wrote Obamacare, they knew they had a conservative court. One that would not change in Obama first term.

So?

Write a bad piece of legislation that turns into a political issue that will help motivate DEM voters to go to the polls. If the Supreme Court strike all of Obamacare......a lot of DEM are going to be unhappy. To get Obamacare back...they have to re-elect President Obama and his DEM friends to Congress.

If Obamacare is stricken, then President Obama domestic legislation
for this term is a total failure. A crisis has been made. Bring him back, bring him back ...solve the crisis, solve the crisis. He spoke over 200 times during the 2008 campaign on Obamacare. It is his core
legislative issue. The only one he knows well.

So it was not written without severability clause by accident.....but for a reason.

RE: Should burning your country's flag be illegal?.

In a month, the London Olympic games begin. Each country will present its flag in the open ceremonies. Then will have a flags flown over the winners of the events.

I don't see any killing in a event like the Olympics. No soldier taking the castle or hill. No impressed mass that is fearful of a military.

I do see.....a real terrorist target and a real anarchist target in the summer games. Were to make some inane ideological statement...they place 100s at risk. All because many they hate some of the flags that are at the summer games.

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