RE: November 2012 is near America! Obama Rocks, and even GOP knows this, and do not know what to do a bo

The Sect of State of AZ wants to see the birth certificate of President Obama. This to list President Obama in the 2012 election in AZ. The Sect of State of Hawii has given him the 'process' to securing the document.

Once secured.....the State of AZ ....can determine if the document is a forgery, irregular or real.....one of Sheriff Joe's complaints is that in his investigation of President Obama's birth residence issue.....was that the Hawii birth certificate was not proper.

Now with Sheriff Joe getting a DOJ court filing on his handling of illegal aliens.....seems that the State of AZ....is play a tit for tat.

RE: November 2012 is near America! Obama Rocks, and even GOP knows this, and do not know what to do a bo

click thru and learn something.......

A Conservative REP.....a Mormon ......a Woman.....and a black American
running for Congress. A former Utah city Mayor. tongue I give you Mia Love. She is running for the new 4th Congressional district of Utah.
She will join the black Caucus if elected.

news.yahoo.com/blogs/power-player-abc-news/kind-republican-101708014.html

RE: November 2012 is near America! Obama Rocks, and even GOP knows this, and do not know what to do a bo

RE: November 2012 is near America! Obama Rocks, and even GOP knows this, and do not know what to do a bo

Uh Oh.....NATO just agreed to activate the anti missile shield. Making very un happy.

A US frigate with interceptors missile is to be placed in the MED and a US radar site in Turkey at a German base is to be activated. For the coming Iranian nuc ICBMs.

Look for the price of Russian crude to be increased to Europe soon. President Putin does not a defended Europe.

RE: November 2012 is near America! Obama Rocks, and even GOP knows this, and do not know what to do a bo

Japanese Climate Scientists say that they have the rising sea water problem solved.....

Just take out a "massive amount of ground water" is the solution, they say,

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmm............side bar please.....

Did they ever hear of salt water entering the fresh water supply? We have it here in Florida. Salt water enters fresh water fields and causes it go bad. Humans can only drink fresh water. Drinking salt water will cause you to first go insane....and then to die.

I guess this is also a form of population control.......that the Japanese climate scientist came up with.......

RE: November 2012 is near America! Obama Rocks, and even GOP knows this, and do not know what to do a bo

Rob Emanuel had 100s of his police force scattered all over the city.....in a show of force.....miles away from the downtown area or the NATO conference site.

LOL........

RE: November 2012 is near America! Obama Rocks, and even GOP knows this, and do not know what to do a bo

So let us put the Chicago and NATO mess together some.

Who proposed Chicago as a place to host the NATO Conference?

More than likely it was the White House. It has 100s of other cities and sites to host the NATO Conference...including Camp David. Were the EU summit was recently held.

But no, the NATO Conference goes to the windy city of Chicago.

Were? Rob Emanuel is Mayor and leads the police force. Were you have
Louis Farracon and Nation of Islam headquarters. Were you have the new Black Panther party headquarters.

If the President had not noticed....NATO has been in a long war with Islam since 911. Do you think that the members of the Nation of Islam and the Black Panther party are not coming out on the streets for a
NATO conference? That the OWS is not going to be there? That the Anyonmous anarchists are not going to be on the streets? Then you are one of the slowest leaders in the history of the country.

This was a violent confrontation in the making the day the White House and Oval Office....said Chicago was the NATO conference site.

Talk about losing the trust of your NATO allies leaders? Place them into a riotous city for a conference. Endangering their lives. Obama is going to be lucky if only France pulls out of Afghanistan after this. All the rest of NATO that has been threatened in his home city, have to be thinking about joining France.

Rob Emanuel as Chicago Mayor is a big part of this. He is setting the police lines and determining where the Chicago police will try to hold the rioting OWS/Anarchist back at. They are already breaking thru his thin police lines. Gee that was not planned? It will be interesting how many reserve police, Rob requested to secure the
NATO conference.

For the RNC convention in Tampa.....that figure was 56,000 are on call. My bet is old Rob Emanuel did not call in a reserve force for the NATO conference.

But the Chicago police will do just a good enough job to protect President Obama today.....as makes his address and meets with Karzia. Tomorrow and tonight....all bets are off....as Chicago burns.

Yes, this is were it gets really ugly. People get killed. Buildings burn. Lives and hopes are destroyed.......all because the White House choose Chicago for the NATO Conference site.

RE: November 2012 is near America! Obama Rocks, and even GOP knows this, and do not know what to do a bo

They have anarchist/OWS actions happening all over Chicago.

A anarchist/OWS hacking group.....antis3curityops...connected to Anonynous...hacked into the Chicago Police Website and into the NATO websites.

Yesterday.....20 blackhooded anarchist with bats and metal pipes attacked a restruant gathering in a Chicago suburb. The restraunt was hosting what had been scheduled as a "Irish gathering". In reality, it was a right wing group. The OWS/anarchist group called themselves the "anti fascist party' as they flashed in to attack the 10 and disrupted the restruant diner hour by over throwing chairs and tables.

In the streets of Chicago. The OWS/Anarchist NATO protesters continue to riot against the Chicago police. Many dressed in all black....note the first group...was in black hoodies....had penetrated police lines and were moving on the NATO conference.

They are wearing all black likely to take this into a night time riot.

The Chicago police arrest three more in the Molotov cocktail NATO plot.

So President Obama loses controlled of his home city of Chicago.....can we really expect him to be able to defend the country?

RE: November 2012 is near America! Obama Rocks, and even GOP knows this, and do not know what to do a bo

They have a small riot in Chicago going on. As the OWS terrorist /protesters that assembled for the NATO conference attempted to force the police lines at the end of the march.

Jesse Jackson and other DEM leaders were at the OWS terrorist/protester march to ask them to disperse peacefully. But of course a band of anarchist OWS terrorist/protesters dressed in all black....attempted to force the police lines.

So while President Obama is inside the NATO conference asking for a continued NATO and EU support for his failing Afghanistan policies.
His OWS terrorist/protester minions on the outside are fighting with police...in a mock....anti war rally. It is a election year, one needs to remember.

RE: November 2012 is near America! Obama Rocks, and even GOP knows this, and do not know what to do a bo

Barney Frank is marrying his male lover soon. But he is not inviting the President and his wife. Barney would "love" to the have the Obamas attend, but their Secret Service "would ruin things".............rolling on the floor laughing

RE: November 2012 is near America! Obama Rocks, and even GOP knows this, and do not know what to do a bo

Newark City Major....Cory Booker, a black DEM that supported and endorsed President Obama in 2008....said that President Obama campaign ad attacking Bain Capitol (the firm that Romney headed)....as being nauseating and ridiculous. I quote


"I have to say at a very personal level, I'm not going to sit here and indict private capitol. To me it is getting to a ridiculous point in America. Especially in that I live in a state, were pension funds,
unions, and other people have invested in companies like Bain Capitol.
If you look at the totality of Bain Capitol record, they have done alot to support business and to grow business."

By the way Dude.....no attacking Romney Mormon faith. Axlerod said it was hands off. This after Romney said the RNC PAC would not use in Wright commericals.

We are to have a "elivated" campaigns and not ones that "denigrate".

So am not sure you are going to have much to say from this point on......rolling on the floor laughing

RE: November 2012 is near America! Obama Rocks, and even GOP knows this, and do not know what to do a bo

Karzia comes to the NATO conference to aks for Billions in aid. So he decides to thank President Obama for the billions already in the past.
A nice gesture. A nicer gesturer? To award that massive Afghan copper strike to a US firm instead of the Chinese.......laugh

RE: November 2012 is near America! Obama Rocks, and even GOP knows this, and do not know what to do a bo

Just who was terrorized when the TEA Party had million Glenn Beck Washington rally?......if they were.....they were sitting in the White House and in Congress.))

RE: November 2012 is near America! Obama Rocks, and even GOP knows this, and do not know what to do a bo

You might like a site on this

news.yahoo.com/3-charged-terror-conspriracy-ahead-nato-100552153.html

It likely will be blocked like the others, but just goggle it

RE: November 2012 is near America! Obama Rocks, and even GOP knows this, and do not know what to do a bo

Several days ago....9 were arrested in a South Side Chicago Apartment....for 'terrorism'. The 9 were connected to the OWS movement.
6....yes 6 have been released.

3 were charged with possession of molotov cocktails that they were going to use to attack the Chicago NATO meetings with.

Now we can understand why 6 were released. Being part of OWS gains you favor in the Obama's DoJ eyes. Had these been a hard right wing group....like American Eagle group that was found here in Central Florida recently.....they would have place a man hunt on them. They did do that. All the American Eagles are still in custody.

But threaten to attack NATO with Molotov cocktails will net you only a night or two in jail. If you are OWS terrorist.

So will the Obama administration place the OWS on the terrorist list?
One OWS attempted to burn down Hollywood. This group was planning fire bomb attack that might have killed and injured 100s. But not likely.
The OWS and Obama administration are to closely connected ideologically for the administration to take a hard line with.

Heck the Obama administration cannot place the Boko Harem....a Nigerian Islamic terrorist group....that literally killed 100s of Nigerian Christians in bombing attacks and other attacks....because its of ideological connections with Chicago's Louis Farracon and his Nation of Islam....on the terrorist list.

So the likelyhood that OWS being terrorist listed, a OWS that Nancy Pelosi embraced as being part of the DEM party is very small. But should the OWS being placed on the terrorist list? It attempted to burn down a American city because of the 1%/99% divide. Firebomb a international defense organization that is fighting Islamic terrorism.
Had murders and rapes in its OWS camps. Rioted in the streets of America with damage to stores and police.

So in my thinking.....the OWS is a terrorist group.

RE: November 2012 is near America! Obama Rocks, and even GOP knows this, and do not know what to do a bo

You what is kind of funny in this. We have actually had the ability to weld titiamum since 2004. This advance in welding it, just a means to better and more welds can be done in the metal.

But Mr. Innovation......or President Obama.....could have been developing titiamum hulled vessels and other military vehicles with it, for his entire term in office. All four years. Has Mr. Innovation specified any US military vessels or vehicles be done in Titiamum? A metal that better withstands IEDs and battle damage than steel. No. Mr. Innovation has not specified that these better battle hardened systems be developed for "his" military.

I am sure when the American voter understands this.......he will take a different look at Mr. Innovation.

RE: Battle plan for Iran ‘ready’

We welcome any that ...wish to take America out....that wish to establish a government of the people, by the people and for the people.....first to become naturalized citizens.....that mean spending 5 years here first. Then your vote and opinion will matter more.

RE: Battle plan for Iran ‘ready’

Maybe we could call unbiased criticism of the US....if we were to see similar CS criticism of Russia that just jumped into Syrian thing with counter terrorist forces.

But I have not seen many words of a critical nature to the Russian deployment to support Assad in Syria.

RE: November 2012 is near America! Obama Rocks, and even GOP knows this, and do not know what to do a bo

The US Congress and parties inside the USDoJ are asking the Obama administration and States Department to place several groups on the
terrorist list.

The two groups are Boko Harem and the Haqqi network. Boko Harem is a Islamic group in Nigeria that have responsible for 100s of murders in a long serise of attack on civilian, police and military. The Haqqi Network of Pakistan/Afghanistan as long been a supporter and provider to the Taliban and the TeT terrorist group.

The strange thing here is.

The Administration seems unwilling to do so. In the case of the Boko Harem, the administration want to wait until talks with the Nigerian government occurs next month. In the case of the Haqqi network, the
Administration has stall for several years in doing so....

Lisa Monaco, head of the DoJ's National Security Division, made the request on the Boko Harem recently. Then in Congress, REP Patrick Meehan (R) picked up the issue and made a clause in defense spending bill that both groups were listed as terrorist groups ...or for the
Administration to give reason why they should not be.

These groups have had attacks or supported attacks on Americans.
The underwear bomber of Christmas 2009 came from the Boko Harem. Americans were killed in the TeT attack in Mumbia.

Yet the Administration drags its feet on placing them on the terrorist list?

Since day one of this Administration, we have had a muddy and muddled approach to terrorism. For a time, the words 'terrorism', 'terrorists'
and 'terror group' were politically incorrect to say or use. Right up till the Fort Hood shooting. Even then it was like lifting a 1000 pound slab of concrete off them...to get a admission that terrorism does occur in the world.

So now headed into a election......were a major voting block for the President is black, is Islamic.....the Boko Haren cannot be made a terrorist group? And in Afghanistan, were the withdrawal is being planned and the peace table is being set.....the Haqqi network cannot be determined a terrorist group?

One begins to see why the Administration muddied and muddled the concept of terrorism for so long.

So in CA valley girl logic..... It is like re-elect haloed President Obama this year, and the world will like Americans....that is so cool. Until you are in TeT attack in Mumbia India or on plane with Boko Haren underwear bomber.....then it is not so cool.

news.yahoo.com/us-mulls-terroist-designation-nigerian-militants-062026036.html

RE: The Next Superpower in the World

No, we should be reading the straight Communist by line....to get our history of China......

1930-50s Christian missionary were in China pushing opium on the people, that came from Afghanistan, Riz? Just let me be clear in what you are saying here. So in other words, now the drug trafficing in China was done by Christians?doh It was never done by the Chinese themselves in their opium houses? That sound pretty much a like Chinese communist statement.

Chiang....was a American allie fighting against the Japanese in WWII. Of course he got aid from the United States. But in Mao's refined and redefined history of China....only his Communist defeated the Japanese
in far east China theatre. But oh no, you not pushing the straight Communist line at us....

Maybe the reason China does not have internal struggles today....is the political prisoners, the religous prisoners.....are to busy digging earth metals out of the mines to struggle.

Take a look someday at the Chinese rare earth mining on Satellite imagery. Tell me if you see any kind of public transportation or bikes or auto parking at the sites. The ones I looked did not have any. Which means.....China does not use civilian labor at those sites. Oh that it is right, China will not even let you look un tampered satellite imagery there....... sorry I am asking to much of you.

Riz you been drinking something, and is not tea.......

RE: Battle plan for Iran ‘ready’

I think we should encourage Iranian peace keepers (Revolutionary Guard)to go to Syria and then see how well that goes.............grin

RE: November 2012 is near America! Obama Rocks, and even GOP knows this, and do not know what to do a bo

Dude if you make a straight statement the sky would collapse.

McCain wanted government loans in 2008.....for the failing firms, banks and auto firms. All the DEMs did was give government loans the term bailout.....what do you think Obama bailouted?

I saw Romney's rally today. He is going to be tougher than McCain to beat. He spoke at the same spot Obama spoke in 2008 the night before the election. To about 4000 in a light rain.

Obama made a serise of promises that night.

Not one has he kept.

He promised.....to do line item vetos

He Promised.....to balance the budget

He Promised.....to end duplicate FED programs

I take that back. He ended 1 government duplicate program. Romney found 73 other duplicate programs he has not touched.

Obama that night said GWB's 5t in debt rang up in 8 yeas was "unpatriotic". Obama has rung up 5t in debt in under 4 years.

RE: November 2012 is near America! Obama Rocks, and even GOP knows this, and do not know what to do a bo

Some interesting news out there....

Nkorea has been just detained a Chinese fishing vessel in the Yellow sea. Over a fishing violation. NKorea is asking about $100,000 to release the vessel and its 29 crewmen.

China says the boats was in international waters.

China also ask NKorea to back down on it next planned nuclear test earlier in the week.

Hard to make this out. If there is a divide between the two countries coming or not.

I say to China. If they were in international waters. Let the Nkorean see a show of force. March 2 million man army along the Yallo River with food and warm clothing. The NKoreans will will trade the boat and crew for crust of bread, clothing and blankets.



Well Sect Penetta of the DoD....wants that those F-22s fixed and fixed soon! They are already deployed to the middle east. But do get them fixed so they can be used.

The F-22 oxygen problem goes back a ways in time. Seem that over the last 5 years they have 35 incidents of pilot becoming "light headed".
One can say USAF pilots are always light headed.)) But no this was from oxygen reduction.....and can cause hypoxia in the cockpit.

Several USAF pilots are refusing to fly the F-22. Several accident death cases seem to be cause by the problem. The aircraft has never flown in combat.

YET......and this is a big YET......the Obama adminsitration order a group of F-22 to be deployed in Bahrain. Why deploy a aircraft that is a potential pilot coffin?

I have my thoughts on that.

The F-22 is known around the world as the 'premier air space control fighter'. I have seen the F-22 do some amazing things. Like walk in the air. This mach 2 aircraft is one tough air space control fighter.

So?

With Iran skipping out on nuclear talks and playing the sanction avoidance cards.....the Obama administration wants to make a show of force. Hence the order to move the F-22s to the Gulf region. But let us give the Iranian some credit. They know that the F-22 has some problems at present. They know that it is not likely to be used in combat. But if a fix is found, it can be done anyplace the aircraft is at.

So it is like wave feather duster at them and saying....stop the nuc or I will beat you up with my feather duster.)))

Funny how I got to feather dusters and the Obama administration.....
but what the heck.....it is likely a rainbow colored feather duster.


Well the campaign commercials are getting pretty ugly now. Some are calling them 'scathing' or 'viral' or 'nasty'.

Negative campaigning is here to stay. Sadly that is the case. If you cannot make a good case for your election. You degrade the case your opponent is making.

Just expect more it. Political ad makers really are not creative types.
They just mimic the worst in society.))

By the time the election rolls around....expect to know all the bedroom details of the candidates.....and to have it in living color on your TV.

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RE: The Next Superpower in the World

I think the world is big trouble when one woman has PMS and she is sitting near you.grin

RE: The Next Superpower in the World

Riz, if China has these problems as all major and large countries do.
Why paint it as a domesiticated land of harmonious tranquility? Because that is the picture that Communist Chinese paint in the media.

Read how the underground Christian church is treated in China. Why does a super power ....or want to be super power.....or tomorrow's super power.....fear the Christian religion? By law only a small group meet at any service. Eight is the number, I think. They are forced to meet in houses and cannot have any type of school or worship site.

When a government enacts laws on a faith.....it is showing a certain degree of weakness and fear of what the faith has. In this case maybe it is the truth. The Communist Chinese don't want that kind of truth free in their controlled society.

We both know why. It was because when the Communist struggle came....post WWII....the Christian missionaries were largely for the National Chinese Government of Chiang Kai-shek. For that many paid the price with their lives and the Christian faith abolished in the country.

When Communist Russia fell apart, what was the one of the first things it re-embraced? The Christian faith.

RE: The Next Superpower in the World

Okie dokie....I prescribe the theory of a small WWII USARMY para vet....who said when talking about facing the larger Germans soldiers in combat......"This Thompson Sub Machine Gun is a equalizer."

But no doubt there are some tough females in the Russian, Chinese and Nkorean armies. Clearly when this combined super power emerges, the world is in big trouble.

RE: The Next Superpower in the World

second part

are peace loving? I cannot say that I do. The evidence from Timmenann, the wars mentioned, the treatment of the political prisoners in the country, all indicate a more threatening and hostile China.

RE: The Next Superpower in the World

Rizlared, you tried to us that the Chinese were only a peace loving people with no hostile intents.....

But Chinese history does not say that. It said what I posted that those 55 subgroups have fought many time over main land China control.

Did not China aid North Vet Nam when the US was in South East Asia? sure it did. It proxied the North against the US and South Vet Nam in to a first a cold war... brushfire war...that turned into a major confrontation. What the Korean war? China brought a 1 Million men over the Yallo River in a surprise attack. My uncle was there. Chosin River, Riz. Out numbered 17 to 1. They were not taking many prisoners.
Those they did, did not like the POW experience.

India and China war. Was over? Some Himilayan Mountians and a ingenious group called the Tibetians. Why is this so important to China? Two reasons. First. The Tibetian ideology is in opposition the the Chinese communist ideology. They cannot envision a Communist China with a sect of God seeking Tibetians. Second. In WWII, a road was made thru the Himilayans to supply the allied armies in China. China wanted control of that road. And it got it. It pressed a invasion route to India.

Now China expands into Pakistan. Thru a recently made Mountain road.
When some Muslin Ugllies terrorist attacks in China...6 months ago...
the Pakistani ISI head rushed the following week to Bejing. to smooth things over with China. Did any Pakistani government official rush to the US after 911?

for the most part I totally agree with you Riz. The Chinese people are a gracious and peace loving people. But think that is all the Chinese people.....those especially that are in the Communist Chinese party.

RE: The Next Superpower in the World

I always knew the Chinese were peaceful, until they were in a war.grin

RE: The Next Superpower in the World

Me it is humans that are wrong? We don't have rights, only foot steps in the sand......

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