Old/New World Order...what is it

For there to be a new world order, there would have to have been an old world order.

What does that mean?

new and old.....

is pretty obvious what that means. Old, something that has been and might be coming to an end. New, is something that has yet to be and might be coming to a beginning.

world...

well, that could mean somebody's individual existence and everything that existence encompasses (that in my opinion would be the micro world) The macro world could encompass everything that exists that everyone experiences. For the time being, that could be the whole planet earth, but as we progress technologically, it could encompass more and more of the universe.

order...

when I think of order, I immediately think of its opposite, chaos. So order could mean that everything has its place.

With these three words broken down...if there is a "New World Order" coming, it would be nice to identify a possible "Old World Order."

I would argue that an "Old World Order" could have possibly been one that involved, religion. Religion allowed our planet to flourish to its population it has today. For Christians, we had the 10 Commandments to follow...to keep us in our place. Order was also maintained by family. Our devotion and love to one another kept everyone in their place. Order was in addition maintained by our work. Being at work 1/2 of our waking lives also kept us in place. In addition, the chasing of money also kept us on the straight and narrow.

These couple examples cover some of the major "old" world orders that have existed...and still do to some extent. But statistics would show they are on the decline....religious follwing...down, married couples..down, jobs are still around...but I will address this shortly along with money. (Jobs and money are connected obviously).

I am no expert here, but I am assuming that if there is going to be a "new order"...anytime you transition between something old and new, there is a short period (or long...depending on the complexity of the transition) of chaos between the two. Have you ever heard that saying, "It has to get worse before it gets better?" It is no different than somebody remodeling their house. Their house is in order before the remodel job, but is a mess in the middle of the job, and it is new order after the remodel job.

Now lets look at the state of the world as it stands right now today (2/24/2020). Take a step back from your day to day life and look at the state of our "world". I would say there is a lot of chaos in it right now. You have government feuding, genders feuding, rich vs. poor, religions losing their power over chaos...etc.

If this theory is correct, that would mean there is room being made for the "new order" to emerge. In other words, room for everything to have its place. When I refer to everything, I am primarily referring to...everyone having their place. If that is so, what is going to maintain this new order?
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What is going to maintain this new order?

I would say we are entering a new age...an age of technology. No longer is religion needed to maintain order. No longer is family needed to maintain order. And with AI predicted to be replacing 50% of the jobs that exists, no longer are jobs going to be used to maintain order....and with that money will be the difficult prize to achieve for working. Not to mention, money is being turned into digital.

So...how does technology maintain order?


....well, with technology, everything about us can be controlled, known...and even predicted (I have heard).

What else comes about in this new world order?



wave
In conclusion, I would say we are in the midst of a world order transition....happening right under our noses while we are too busy arguing about other things in our chaotic states of mind.
Johnny

I am retiring...lol...laugh


grin
Who were the heads of our old world order...well, I would say heads of religion and heads of government.

Will that remain in the new world order?

dunno
Hello L.L.,

Not a bad idea....enjoy it. :)

wine
Well...Andrew Yang tried to explain it...not a bad bloke to start teaching the masses...technology...thumbs up
John

Cheers

wine
new world order means the government controls your life and they are in control.
Stringman...did you ever seen the movie 1984? It predicted the future and present we now live in
no lee I don't think I did.can't remember.
Hey johnny right now my mind is in chaos after my 12 hours duty sched in ICU
and after reading this made it 'a world order' doh confused what was the question again?hmmm wave cheers
Thank you for sharing Lee. I will be checking it out when I get some extra time.


Thank you String too. That might be about the government...some would even speculate it might be a tad bit deeper than that even.

dunno


Hello to both. wave wave
Between pool and work Robert...I have been insanely preoccupied. But soon, that should slow down a bit. I like staying busy anyway. :)
YSA...you are playing your important part in the cog of the wheel. :) You truly are making a difference in this world...keep up the good work wonderful lady. :)


wave
String...I appreciate the video thumbs up

Luke....I totally agree with that. Let's hope if it is new, it is more fair, good....for all


wave wave
When I was growing up I was sold the myth of the three day week. Wow! You’d only have to work less than half the week. Some of my colleagues might argue that I do that already!
Sadly, technology has sped things up to the point where there’s not enough time in the week to get all the work done. And so the next step is that companies shall use robots to take over as many jobs as possible…and we’ll have nothing to do but get in the queue for unemployment benefit...or else sabotage robots!
Hello SH,

There are some weeks in my life I can relate with what you say...about technology not allowing enough time to finish things.

wave
Domestication. People would rather fantasise a well-controlled environment - even an evil one - than face the unknown.

The modern world actually works a lot more like this



There’s no earthly way of knowing
Which direction they are going!
There’s no knowing where they’re rowing,
Or which way they river’s flowing!
Not a speck of light is showing,
So the danger must be growing,
For the rowers keep on rowing,
And they’re certainly not showing
Any signs that they are slowing…
Johnny you ask very complicated question. Part 1:
Short answer in 1984 Ronald Regan proclaimed an end to international settlements been settled in New York that has been replaced with New World Order the US insisted on was that the price of goods and services globally, is to be governed by supply and demand. That occurred after Hunt Brother pushed International sliver prices sky high, also I believe gold rose above US$900.00 per oz however the Hunt brothers sold there holding (described as bankruptcy) when however the sold before the Fed opened Fort Knox and floated the world with gold forcing gold to drop to US$80.00 but Hunt brother got out at US$750.00 I think. anyway:

The Federal Reserve System is not "owned" by anyone. The Federal Reserve was created in 1913 by the Federal Reserve Act to serve as the nation's central bank. The Board of Governors in Washington, D.C., is an agency of the federal government and reports to and is directly accountable to the Congress.

The Federal Reserve derives its authority from the Congress, which created the System in 1913 with the enactment of the Federal Reserve Act. This central banking "system" has three important features: (1) a central governing board—the Federal Reserve Board of Governors; (2) a decentralized operating structure of 12 Federal Reserve Banks; and (3) a blend of public and private characteristics.

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The Gold Reserve Act of 1933 was passed under President Franklin Roosevelt at the height of the Great Depression to stabilize the money supply in the U.S.
Gold reserves were transferred from the Federal Reserve bank to the U.S. Treasury at a discount.
The intended effect of the law was to increase the money supply and stem deflation by devaluing the dollar, including in foreign exchange markets.


In July 1944, a United Nations conference met at Bretton Woods in the United States to discuss the postwar international monetary system. The Bretton Woods Conference adopted a resolution calling for the abolition of the BIS "at the earliest possible moment", because it considered that the BIS would have no useful role to play once the newly created World Bank and International Monetary Fund were operational.

The Bank for International Settlements (BIS) is an international financial institution owned by central banks which "fosters international monetary and financial cooperation and serves as a bank for central banks".


The United States Gold Reserve Act of January 30, 1934 required that all gold and gold certificates held by the Federal Reserve be surrendered and vested in the sole title of the United States Department of the Treasury. It also prohibited the Treasury and financial institutions from redeeming dollars for gold, established the Exchange Stabilization Fund under control of the Treasury to control the dollar’s value without the assistance (or approval) of the Federal Reserve, and authorized the president to establish the gold value of the dollar by proclamation.



Congress passed the Gold Reserve Act on 30 January 1934; the measure nationalized all gold by ordering Federal Reserve banks to turn over their supply to the U.S. Treasury. In return the banks received gold certificates to be used as reserves against deposits and Federal Reserve notes. The act also authorized the president to devalue the gold dollar. Under this authority the president, on 31 January 1934, changed the value of the dollar from $20.67 to the troy ounce to $35 to the troy ounce, a devaluation of over 40%.
Johnny you ask very complicated question. Part 2:

World War II

Under the Bretton Woods international monetary agreement of 1944, the gold standard was kept without domestic convertibility. The role of gold was severely constrained, as other countries’ currencies were fixed in terms of the dollar. Many countries kept reserves in gold and settled accounts in gold. Still they preferred to settle balances with other currencies, with the American dollar becoming the favorite. The International Monetary Fund was established to help with the exchange process and assist nations in maintaining fixed rates. Within Bretton Woods adjustment was cushioned through credits that helped countries avoid deflation. Under the old standard, a country with an overvalued currency would lose gold and experience deflation until the currency was again valued correctly. Most countries defined their currencies in terms of dollars, but some countries imposed trading restrictions to protect reserves and exchange rates. Therefore, most countries' currencies were still basically inconvertible. In the llate 1950s, the exchange restrictions were dropped and gold became an important element in international financial settlements.


Nelson Bunker Hunt (February 22, 1926 – October 21, 2014) was an American oil company executive. He was a billionaire whose fortune collapsed after he and his brothers William Herbert and Lamar Hunt tried to corner the world market in silver but was prevented by government intervention

Uncle Sam Steps In
The U.S. government became concerned over what it saw as a clear attempt at manipulating the nation's silver reserves, and the fact that this corner involved the Middle East added some venom to the government's reaction: after all, the 1970s oil crisis was still fresh in the nation's mind. Federal commodities regulators introduced special rules to prevent any more long position contracts from being written or sold for silver futures.
America opened Fort Knox and floaded the world with Gold and Silver.


Bunker and his brother were used by the Federal Reserve, in collusion with COMEX and the Chicago Board of Trade (CBOT), to cap the price of gold - YES, GOLD - and save the U.S. dollar
It is essentially a way for the world to make more sense than the bad acid trip it really is. The anxiety produced by the great changes, madness and shock of modernity looks for an explanation on which to rationalise itself. There's nothing more terrifying than not knowing why you're terrified, this is the reason people favour easy answers that are dystopian. It gives a basis to your suspicion and doubt; it's rationalised paranoia.
in part due to Congressional reluctance to abandon the gold standard and float the U.S. currency as Britain had done.
Congress passed the Gold Reserve Act on 30 January 1934; the measure nationalized all gold by ordering Federal Reserve banks to turn over their supply to the U.S. Treasury. In return the banks received gold certificates to be used as reserves against deposits and Federal Reserve notes. The act also authorized the president to devalue the gold dollar. Under this authority the president, on 31 January 1934, changed the value of the dollar from $20.67 to the troy ounce to $35 to the troy ounce, a devaluation of over 40%.
Under the Bretton Woods international monetary agreement of 1944, the gold standard was kept without domestic convertibility. The role of gold was severely constrained, as other countries’ currencies were fixed in terms of the dollar. Many countries kept reserves in gold and settled accounts in gold. Still they preferred to settle balances with other currencies, with the American dollar becoming the favorite. The International Monetary Fund was established to help with the exchange process and assist nations in maintaining fixed rates. Within Bretton Woods adjustment was cushioned through credits that helped countries avoid deflation. Under the old standard, a country with an overvalued currency would lose gold and experience deflation until the currency was again valued correctly. Most countries defined their currencies in terms of dollars, but some countries imposed trading restrictions to protect reserves and exchange rates. Therefore, most countries' currencies were still basically inconvertible. In the late 1950s, the exchange restrictions were dropped and gold became an important element in international financial settlements.

complicated
And you can take from this that real order existed at some point in the past. Existed in a simpler time when authority could keep on top of events and life barely changed for generation after generation. Nobody had any autonomy apart from the King. Anyway the point of New World Order is to get people back to Old World Order that really was a tightly-controlled environment. The modern world with its unpredictability and its strangers and its complexity - they want them all away. There's a backlash against liberal society and it is the will to live vicariously through a strong leader who tells you to think. The world becomes much simpler and predictable again because freedom is the reserve of one man alone like it was in the past.
chestneychrist ~thumbs up interesting reply, true.
However, I hanker back to those post war days that I have seen documentaries about, when people for instance, in UK, were all slim and healthy and lived on a plain diet, very little sugar, grew their own veg in the back garden, had commitees for helping neighbours and had a work ethic.
Life was plain and simple and they were decent and the black phone was in the hall and life wasnot lived through social media which has caused more isolation.
Less 'stuff' and materialism makes for less anxiety, and no keeping up with the jones s too.
There was less anxiety then, people had a sense of gratitude rather than a sense of entitlement.
Maybe it's a dream I have, but I wish we could live that way, simple lives, a relatively ok Governance, and no One World Order.

People had to be creative with food, and forrage in the local wood or park for greens, Radio was good then, and people believed what they heard on radio and Tv as Newspapers weren't owned.
It was simple, less Depression, Less wannabees and a safer place to live. ?
Maybe it's a Rose tinted thing with me, but even the 50s when I was growing up were simple.
A Black and White TV with 2 stations did the job.
enter the anti christ.
I told Johnny that Robert was evil. Look at what he's started on this thread.roll eyes scold
GG, go back to your hole. i'm sure it's nice
robplum ~ Did you copy and paste all that information ? or did you write it out. I assume the latter.
Anyway it made interesting reading. Take care.
Great reads all and I very much appreciate you all sharing.


Ralph....Robert who you told me was evil?


Hopefully I can find some additional time to make more specific response to each comment.

Again, thank you all.


wave
perhaps a church visit....stat! Robert?

Ralph, I appreciate your perspective but I don't see too much evil in Robert. Maybe his bad smelly armpits might be classified as evil, but that is about it. dunno
Robert is lovable, evil never.tongue
Cap and Luke....thumbs up thumbs up
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