Protesters claiming they want freedom all sounds great however I think Albertaghost is more likely on the button. One big plot plotted in Iran to close the Suze (of course Israel to) but maybe a nasty plot that gunner cause havoc. Iranian leaders don't care how many there own people they murder, never lone others, me thinks China is also involved at least to the extent its copy cat method implored in Nepal, masters at plotting the downfall of civilized societies
no i didn't say your were talking crap bonsai, i didn't, couple of days ago took photo of the vapour cloud that rose behind the Nowa Nowa fire, the forest between there and Orbost hasn't seen any fuel reduction burns for over 30 years...had three days around the 40 deg mark, warm today, expecting 100mil rain tomorrow up the road, flood warning been given for kiewa and the mita mita, so suppose will get rain by tomorrow night. Otherwise nothing much changed round here, oh everyone is installing satellite tv dishes with all the rain lots of dry grass on all the hills, Dale Holland has some gold fish tanks now... otherwise same same
ok, enough is enough, you might like to change your plans, like in decide your going to spend the rest of your life in the joint family home...your heading for the family court whether you see it or not, i think you are, try and step back from the hurt and detach yourself from the pain and anger or you'll loose the plot...
You need to move on, its hard but that is what you really need to do, don't give a stuff what she thinks, she's gone mate, so stop using the kids by getting them to pass on your thoughts, if your kids want be with you they will say so from there own side, (don't hold your breath) in relation to the house keep your thoughts to your self. You will both be needing to attend counselling, if you cant reach an agreement lawyers charge $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Clearly she is hurting, she has her side of whatever went bye, so stop blame or feeling sorry and take the bull by the horn and play your cards carefully
Using our mind in carefully examining in what way does my body exist? At best I think you might conclude every aspect of my body exists in interdependent's. My name is merely a label and every aspect of my being is in a constant flux of change. So then in what way do I/we exist? My conclusion moving energy and it is moving energy that passes from life to life.
The fundamental bases of Christianity and Islam is reincarnation, (the resurrection), as it is in Hindu and Buddhist teachings. Reincarnation to my mind is driven by the certainty of the laws of cause and effect, its certain for as long as there being a cause.
Whatever is going on in it, half the worlds navies have war ships that i suggest is a response to threats Iran made to close the Suez. A bomb went off in Coptic Church in Egypt, no long after people poured onto the streets in at least three countries, Tunisia, Egypt and also Jordan's Royal Palace says the king has sacked his government in the wake of street protests and has asked an ex-army general to form a new Cabinet. I listened on TV to a dud in Iran with a beard stating its been done to get rid of Moslem leaders friendly with the West...
Pakistan lied saying it was not building bombs, also shared information with both Iran and North Korea. Now looksie a Pakistani governor is shot and most of Pakistan cheer. Now I wonder how long before the Nuclear bombs in Pakistan fall into the hands of the Taliban
Thirty eight in the shade here today, supposed to be a cool change crossing melbourne tomorrow, hoping it will reach up this far. Hope folks in Hervey Bay sail boarding off Gatakers are having fun and you all stay safe up there
A boar with a beard in Iran appeared on our TV claiming the moves in Tunisia and Egypt are made to get rid of leaders of Moslem countries friendly with the West. Back up i thought, oh yeah the Coptic Christians...maybe soon might warm up in other places to
Welcome to the forums, you’ve certainly got to make a lot of allowances here. However there are occasionally well meaning folks posting sensible thoughts from time to time, don’t hold your breath though. Welcome to the forums…
Yes i agree, the quicker people get to understand violence only leads to more violence, and countries that find understanding that sort of human activity is old fashion the better, a good to see that is looking at the holocausts of the past as having occurred because of past ignorance of mankind. Today people like ourselves are better equipped to promote the course of non-violence, the reasoning behind not wallow is the sadness of the past, but use it to benefit better understanding of our human responsibility
There are peaceful ways for dispute resolution, at this time still Southern Lebanon, West Bank and Israel are still practising it however there is talk of stealing more land from people currently being promoted and thats silly.
I disagree its simply a case of turning the other cheek, if you look at Tibet, many Tibetans wanted to take China on using violence, while however HHDL promotes another course. Plain stupidity to think a handful of concerned Tibetans could take the masses of the lunatic Chinese. Gandhi chucked the British out of India using non violence, its possible and productive to engage in other than violence.
violence leads to more violence, stealing what belongs to others isn't congenial to friendly relationships and to take people from one place to another and engage in violence to enforce that sort of stuff wasn't and doesn't sow the seeds of happiness, but man kind keeps engaging in those activities. Non violence Conrad i believe is the only acceptable course, anything else leads to further suffering, to think that cause and effect is rubbish that you can engage in killing with impunity is stupidity. To suffer the suffering of been a so called victim without outstanding that one must have in past have created the cause is silly. Well from the view of the teachings i try hard to subscribe without outstanding one must have in past time created the cause to experience... Israel needs to find peaceful ways of interrelating with others in the here and now, not what did or did not happened hundreds of years ago and indeed Almert gained an agreement to do just that. Our own actions in the right here and now is what matters, yesterday is in the past and its the right now we have to work with. To think suffering arises with out cause is ignorants
I now at least try to subscribe to a view that if you engage in positive activities and crease harming others, killing etc your sowing the seeds to enjoy more happiness. That the laws of cause and effect are certain etc.
The suffering we experience arises because in past i myself created the cause the seeds to ripen. All this killing (Israel been constantly engaged in it since 1948) the killings in, Tibet, Korea, Malaysia, Vietnam, Bosnia, Rwanda, Rhodesia, Chechenia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan/India, Burma, Cambodia, Iraq, Afghanistan on and on people creating the seeds of future suffering... To complicated for some people to take responsibility for the activities they engage in...
Israel continues to create the cause for future suffering. At least while Ehud Olmert while Prime Minister Israel respected the Ahimsa agreement between Lebanon, West Bank and Israel. Knowing creating the cause for suffering and engaging in the cause is stupidity. Benjamin Netanyahu probably doesn’t understand that, early in a debate Ehud Olmert checked up and implemented agreement between the two other parties. Without cause nothing, people need to get a grip of that… Without cause nothing...
I motivation and statements made are been questioned. Following the Buddhist path isn't the path of a sheep i've made statements raising issues with political views publicly made by the AMA and Politicians some members have been bagging me for making...and therefore explaining why
and actually read what has been said Blizzard there, i to have observed same and do not agree just giving up smoking for a long time smoker is an option
If it is given to me to save a life, all thanks. But it may also be within my power to take a life;
I take refuge in the Buddha, Dharma and the Sanga not doctors. They don't respect or understand the same understanding of the actual time of death Buddhist perceive, and i certainly don't some clown clouding my mind at death time with drugs. The post you just responded to was my response to Shell
oh ok i accept: i said "and i believe happy to kill off smokers in an attempt to discourage young people from taking up the habit. Its otherwise called murder"!
some how leads jem to think:
But I do feel you are tending towards the melodramatic by saying that discouraging people from smoking is murder. Ok, you argue that smoking doesnt cause the illnesses that the AMA say it does. But what health benefits are people going to be missing out on by not smoking? And how by not smoking is it going to murder someone?
I'll leave that for others to decide what was or not said
And I must admit the world would be a much nicer place without all the angst and bitterness that this topic has created. It was started in the hope that it could create some positive discussion, but not matter how many positive arguments are given we still end back up at the same thing.
that part of my post was written by jem not me, i was not commenting on your post
And I must admit the world would be a much nicer place without all the angst and bitterness that this topic has created. It was started in the hope that it could create some positive discussion, but not matter how many positive arguments are given we still end back up at the same thing.
This is not the post you started about smokers v non smokers, i didn't ask you to understand anything, you came into this post and took a cheap shot at my views. If you took the time to read the views others expressed in the post you started (didn't post in the thread you started) but if you read and respected the views that disagreed with your view, then you wouldn't have come into this thread and posted what you have.
I do not subscribe to a Christian view on health, i study suffering and I do listen to the constant harmful crap the AMA are daily pumping out our media, They publicly pump there rubbish out. And there for views that I have every right to disagree with.
Yeah, the other day Obama accepted from Hu, a 68 billion dollar bribe. China had earlier agreed to implement major reforms within three years that three years is almost up. Now Obama after accepting the bribe appears to have extended that agreement for another five years. Anything for a BUCK, if we are lucky the coal mines in Queensland will stay closed, if we are lucky...
Australia is being sold out for a BUCK by servants claiming to be the peoples voice...the Chinese have been lying since the 1950's, the same lies that are still being told today. All the time they have been building there military capabilities, they occupy parts of India, toppled the Monarch in Nepal, fed the conflict in Bosnia, support the clown in Rhodesia, are building a road the length of Africa, have moved into the Pacific, murder more of there own citizens than even America.
I suppose I shouldn’t be so sensitive, however the subject matter I find quite distressing. Born in New Zealand (so its fair to say I’m not a true blue) I was to join the army to stop the spread of communium before it came here. Before going to Vietnam doctors told us not to drink the water, much safer to drink alcoholic drinks. In Vietnam we purchased 40 oz bottles of any spirits of your choice for $1.50, slab of Aussie beer ran out at $3. Cigarettes were cheaper than chips… Now governments both here and in NZ are taxing the hell out of our non-taxable veterans pensions. Around one third of my non-taxable pension is being fed straight back into government coffers, while I know they know what the consequence of stopping smoking could be. Further many Aussies, Kiwis, Americans, South Korean and Vietnamese soldiers died in Vietnam trying to contain communism also of course in Korea, Malaysia / Borneo, now the same people that defeated our stand for a free democratic Asian society are being fed all the martial needed to build world domination by China. Politicians here are raping Australia for a BUCK assisting China build its military, including currently under construction three aircraft carriers (some believe four) while most people couldn’t give a rats. Well I do…
Bad things we like. Fruit and vegetables that have been sprayed, genetically modified and grown with artificial fertilizers. Meat that is grown on pastures sprayed with the likes of a replacement for 25T, which has a half life of 50,000 years, drench to kills stomach worms, pour-on to kill ticks that last three months, pour-on to stop fly-strike, artificial fertilizer. Milk from cows treated with dry-off long life penicillin, and includes all of the above to. Poultry that have been feed arsinic to make them drink more and therefore grow quicker, from day old to slaughter 30 days... Soya Beans genetically modified to withstand application of Round Up spray. The country being promoted as a Christian country when the majority are not.
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RE: middle east
Protesters claiming they want freedom all sounds great however I think Albertaghost is more likely on the button.One big plot plotted in Iran to close the Suze (of course Israel to) but maybe a nasty plot that gunner cause havoc. Iranian leaders don't care how many there own people they murder, never lone others, me thinks China is also involved at least to the extent its copy cat method implored in Nepal, masters at plotting the downfall of civilized societies