RE: Can a rational person beilieve in the Bible? or any religion?

Glad you're pleased. Now run away and get the last word with someone else more your style level.wink

RE: Can a rational person beilieve in the Bible? or any religion?

So glad to hear it darlin, and about time too.hug

RE: Can a rational person beilieve in the Bible? or any religion?

Just had a lot on for a while, so took some time out. Missed you and your wonderful posts. Decent debaters, like you, are hard to find on here. So you're still into redheads. Hope you found yourself a nice one who makes you feel special. You deserve that.bouquet teddybear kiss hug

RE: Can a rational person beilieve in the Bible? or any religion?

You're right. You're always right. bowing Happy now?rolling on the floor laughing

RE: Can a rational person beilieve in the Bible? or any religion?

Hi stress, long time, hope you are well and happy.teddybear bouquet hug kiss

RE: Can a rational person beilieve in the Bible? or any religion?

Unless you have multiple personalities or something, then a rationalist would believe that you are the only person addressing me right now.

That aside, I have not said what my personal beliefs are on here. You are assuming that I believe in a God.

As for proof of the existence of God, it has been said, and I have read, that it is assumed to be only a personal belief based on personal experiences of any given individual with their version of that God.

What of the multitudes of people who experience unexplained supposedly devine occurrences in groups at differnet times and in different places along the same theme?

An athiest would say, usually, that we have a stalemate, but in reality, they have just missed out on some of the experiences and ensuing beliefs of others in this world, and because they have not had them, their belief is that they must not be true, or do not exist.

There are many people who would tell you that they have proof for the existance of a God.

What would you say to them?

RE: Can a rational person beilieve in the Bible? or any religion?

So it has occurred to you that there are only 8 or so of you........

In this thread people were not asked to reject anything. People were asked to provide proof for their own beliefs. In your case, that God does not exist. Stick to the subject matter. It will save you a lot of copying and pasting. rolling on the floor laughing

The reason you are not getting through, is because you are spouting the same few sentences of someone else's beliefs over and over, without any proof or even personal examples for what you should be saying about your own beliefs.

RE: Can a rational person beilieve in the Bible? or any religion?

From a philosophical standpoint, the proof of anything lies in evidence proving that the opposite cannot possibly be true.

I have seen you copy that same tenet over and over, but if you are the person exhorting that your belief, (ie athiest belief), is true, then you do have to prove that the opposite is impossible, for your belief to be proven true.

One belief cannot override another. Beliefs are personal to any given individual. To assert that anyone else's beliefs are not true in favour of yours, is just showing no respect for the humanity of those you share this planet with.

RE: happy mothers day

I like that one !!! lolbouquet

RE: a short quiz, enjoy to all with your answers

As circumstancs dictated.

RE: Ladies: Whats the age of the youngest man you ever dated?

19 (He said he was 27), I was 41.

RE: A Mother's Love Is A Blessing...

Thank Crystal.bouquet

RE: A Mother's Love Is A Blessing...

Let's not forget Grandmas too......

Mane of Moonbeams

Sparkling, long, and flowing soft, and shimmering through a comb,
A little hand ,with love,caressed each strand and knew a home.
Her eyes alight with awe to see the splendour falling there
in the magic that was moonbeams, that was grandma's silver hair.

A web of love she wove in it when plaiting it each day
and trapped the little heart that had no other place to stay.
Grandma lent her patience to the comfort of the child
and just let the little fingers roam about at eventide.

Then when the mane of moonbeams had been prettied for the night,
the child would hold that rope that led her safely to the light
of a heart that filed to bursting, and a safety so rare,
in a world that was upended, save for touching grandma's hair.

The years flew past, as swifts in flight to greet a summer's day.
The little child grew up and left the nest to fly away
to do great deeds of courage, and to plant some seeds of care,
letting other little fingers weave their patterns in her hair,

just like grandma, now long gone , had done so many years ago,
she helped them braid their patterns, and encouraged them to grow
to be full and loving people, and to laugh and share and play.
So the lesson of her grandma's mane of moonbeams lives today.

RE: How Irish Are You???

You got Letterkenny wrong.......it's Lifford.

Lifford (Leifear in Irish) is the County Town of Donegal, Ireland. It is the administrative capital of the County and the seat of Donegal County Council, The town of Letterkenny is often mistaken for fulfilling this role.

RE: What would your reaction be?

I think this kind of hits the nail on the head. What people ask for is often what they most fear.hug

RE: What would your reaction be?

I would never ask anyone for a password, nor would I be interested in anything they didn't want to share with me, usually because it wouldn't take long for me to get out of their orbit. Anyone underhand and secretive is not for me.

If there is one thing I absolutely hate it is someone sneaking around gathering a scenario behind my back, who hasn't the guts to just ask me to my face. If they ask and I think it appropriate, then I will tell them and they can knock themselves out with that information. How they react is up to them.

Passwords are keys to private things usually. My kids have all mine. They have also had access to, and read, most of my old diaries from way back when I was a teenager. I told them to go ahead and have a ball, when they wanted to know what I was like at their age. I have no secrets from them, never have had. Having said that, they would never in a million years use any of my passwords or go through my personal things without my permission. We totally trust each other.

And that is what it comes down to. How much you trust someone to know all of you. Warts and all, as the saying goes.

Pity that those who go looking for it often can't take it though......wine

You tread on my dreams......

He just saw the thread and rang me to apologise. I appreciate that very much, and we were able to talk this through and hopefully still stay friends, and now maybe each of us have a better understanding of how the other thinks and operates.

This has been a tough lesson in the importance of communication.

Friendship is a rare thing given to few people and I believe that any hope of, or opportunity for, keeping a friendship alive and growing is a good thing, even if it never gets to be more than that.

I am grateful for the advice and support I have received here on the thread. It helped me tremendously in trying to sort out my thoughts and beliefs from my feelings. Thank you all very much for your kindness in replying.bouquet teddybear hug

You tread on my dreams......

I guess it happens to all of us in time.

You tread on my dreams......

Thanks Vonny, me neither.

You tread on my dreams......

An explaination would be great if there was any way to contact him. I mailed him for an explaination but he didn't open the mail..... yet he had many opportunities from the amount of time he was here.

We made plans to meet and he cancelled at the last minute.

I made no judgements. I just stated facts.

You tread on my dreams......

It's genuinely a long time since I allowed anyone to get close enough for me to be vulnerable in my feelings. This is the first time in my life that I decided to be open and trust a man I thought was precious and special. He told me I was his very special friend.

He said he downloaded my picture and used it as a screensaver. I delighted in the ease and comfort of our conversations, as he said he did. He said he had stopped looking for anyone else because I was the person he wanted. He posted videos and sent e mails. I allowed myself to dream, for the first time since childhood...


When he was in poor health I tried to find solutions and offer help. I genuinely cared about his life and what was happening to him. I cried for the tragedy of his life and for the joy of finding this wonderful man and his delight in my friendship.

My life has had more than it's fair share of tragedies too......

When he said he would be away on business for a couple of weeks I said I understood. He told me his phone had no credit, so I phoned him. He said he would be away from that phone and the other one wasn't working I believed him...

Then I began to wonder why he hadn't written in a few days, why, when I looked at his profile to feel near to him, it said he had been on the site that day, and I had no e mails, no contact. I brushed it off, he was probably collecting mail, no time to linger and write... He said he was a busy man.


Today I found out that he has been coming to this site nearly every day. Writing in forums etc, things that take up considerable time on here, and I had had no word from him at all.

No indication that he changed his mind about our friendship, no words that would have let me know he was no longer interested, nothing at all except being left waiting and wondering, with my feelings crushed.....

What kind of person does this to someone?

RE: Love Scenarios

crying uh oh confused

RE: who likes Neil Diamond's music?

I liked the "johnathan livingston seagull" soundtrack he wrote.

RE: Global warming......Fact or Fiction

I think there are more things to be included here besides people polluting rivers etc. It is much more ocmplex than most people imagine. Reversal of deserts and floodplain areas is something that has wider implications and may be caused by other tings too.

For instance magnetic shifts in the earth's polarity.

It's not all about people and what they do. Their ideas about how much influence they have on the planet are sadly exaggerated in my opinion.

RE: Happy Birthday Tina Olson!!!!

Many happy returns bouquet

RE: would you date a person with a pre teen child after your children have left the nest?

It would depend what kind of parent that person was to that child.........

RE: OBAMA Rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyone want a laugh? Had this sent to me today.....



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RE: The Smoking and Honesty Thread...

Been there done that too, though not quite so dramatically.rolling on the floor laughing

I forgot to say, too, that no one ever gives up during the day. Best to give up after the last one at night, because your system has had 8 hours sleep to detox a bit.......bouquet

RE: The Smoking and Honesty Thread...

Smoking is all in the mind. Every day watch yourself for where your triggers are.

When I give up I take away the habits and reminders (triggers) of smoking.

For instance I always keep my cigs in a black purse. I remove the purse from sight. I remove black objects from site.

I get rid of all ashtrays.

I wash all soft furnishings or clothing that might have lingering smells.

I sit in a different chair. Move the furniture around or paint the walls a different colour if I have to. (You will find that the habit is ingrained and triggered by where you sit. You will have favourite places to indulge your addiction.)

If I love to smoke while drinking coffee or tea, then I stop drinking them. I drink cuppa-soups instead.

Use a different shop to the one where you usually buy your cigarettes for a while.

For about 3 weeks I dont allow anyone to smoke in or near my house, nor do I go any place where others smoke, including to friends houses.

When I feelthat panic-where-are-my-cigs feeling comint on, I take a very slow deep breath or two. (I find it has the same calming, relaxing effect that the first draw of a cigarette has. Then the moment passes.

Don't tell yourself that you will never smoke again. Just stay from that one next cigarette, no more. If you don't have that next one, you won't need the one after.

If you must have one, then do it outside or some place uncomfortable and dont cut yourself up about it. Start again.

The only people who don't give up cigarettes are the ones who give up on themselves on the first try.

You must want to and not have to.

Find and face your fear as to what will happen if you don't smoke. Some people don't want to put on weight, others will miss the social aspect, some enjoy the relaxation and get bad tempered for a while and not like themselves, all of these excuses have to be faced because they will be the reason you will use for starting again...

Hope this helps.hug

RE: ear infection

Best see a doctor.

If you were in the sea in warm water or in a pool of sea water it oculd be coral ear and needs medical treatment.

Could also be an infection or bacteria picked up in a pool or just hot climes, still might need antibiotics, so see the doc.

If you know it is not any of these then try a bit of sheeps wool with the oils still on it and put it in your ear (not all the way in) overnight and it should be gone next day.wine

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