RE: Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?

What were you saying about Justice?

If not mistaken...there is a concept of justice in a timely manner in the country to Americans mind you.

RE: Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?

Shucks the mid term was not Waterloo, Conrad. The DEM were nearly swept from the field. It was more like Custer's Last Stand.grin

RE: Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?

I especially like the SWAT team member with the shotgun in the window. Just monitoring the situation, I quess. The skeleton with a broken arm is a nice touch. As is the little boy looking at his grandfather fading away.....the dead man on the floor does give a sense of reality here.grin

RE: Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?

All can say to that is....it happened in the 2010 mid term. By a land side.

RE: Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?

They can place him in the same brig cell in Leavenworth with the wikileak Private Banning for all I care. One can recite Jhadist rhetoric and the other can type on a imagery computer.grin

RE: Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?

Just checked out Ken Deffeyses new book. "When Oil Peaked"

I wanted to see what he says about Shale oil and Cracking.

If you do not remember Mr. Deffeyses, he is the geologist that predicted that the world's oil reserve would be consumed and that the future for the fuel was limited. It might be noted, he was a geologist for Shell oil when that was written.. Just maybe Shell benefits from the world considering oil supplies to be limited.

But to cut the chase. He stills maintain his position that the country will have a shortage. Even in light of the shale oil developments and fracking of oil wells.

So? Not sure if he is seeing the data on Shale oil that I am.
He admits that the US has vast shale fields. But thinks that they will provide a 50 year supply.

I am seeing numbers for much longer supply than that. But to quote him.

Mr. Deffeyes, on page 107 "Once you know that oil source rock exist, it is not difficult to find them on the ordinary well logs. The primary indication is the resistance of the rock to the flow of electricity. During the early 1920s, downloads electrical resistance measurement were one of the foundations that Pierre and Marcel Schlemberger used to build their company.
What a stack of ordinary shale, the oil source rocks stand out as having higher electrical resistance. A secondary help comes from a downhole radiation counter. Typically, a few parts per million of uranium are found in organic-rich source rock. The
uranium is there because the oxygen-poor environoment that preserved the organic matter also reduces water-soluble oxidzed uranium into an insoluble form.

As the map on page 102 shows, there are about twenty areas being actively explored for shale gas in the US. Halliburton estimates that total recoverable shale might be one thousand trillion cubic feet, equivalent to a fifty-year supply at our present usage rate. Gas from coal beds and shale gas represent a game changing opportunity. It won't fully solve our energy problems, but it could be a important help."

In looking at the map of located Shale oil....it is interesting to note that the following states are nearly completely underground shale oil fields. They are Michigan, Pennesylvia, New York, West Virgina. Texas is about 1/3 shale oil field. Ohio is about 1/2 Shale oil.

So far smaller find sof shale oil in Montana and the Dakotas have driven their economy into having some of the lowest unemployment figures in the country. Wyoming has significant shale oil fields in it. Smaller fields in Colorado and Utah exits. As in Missouri, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Lousiana, Mississippi, Alabama.

And I heard of finds in California that he is not showing.

Deffenes also says on page 102. "Mature oil source rocks, those that have already delivered their oil are a new and important source of natural gas. An old-fashion land rush developed to lease potentially productive areas. However, the wells are so expensive that low natural-gas prices counld make much of the area uneconomic to drill."

So we start to see the environomentist response to shale oil in Deffeyese words here. They are costly to drill(will not take down the pump price). There will be a land rush (fear mongering). It will only last for 50 years.(limit supply)

But it is a "game changing" opportunity. Nothing like talking both side of the mouth at the same time.

So my thinking? Shale oil is spread across the country. So it is already near to the markets. It needs to be refined and stored locally to give a low cost and longer term fuel source. Cost of delivery is minimized then. Helping to control the price at the pump.

Some states can easily be shale oil exporters. They have vast fields of shale oil. Fracking technology improvements in the future will reduce the production cost and increased production. Increased production when combined with our reducing consumption will reduce the number of needed wells and extend the life of the energy source.

RE: Is Casey Anthony guilty?

Living near Orlando and the Casey Anthony case.....I can tell you it is near chaos outside the court were the verdict was given.
They have allot of people assembling for protest to the verdict.
They are hot.

Media is interviewing them. conversing None are grin They all seem very mumbling and frustrated

RE: Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?

I think that these were local civilian criminal charges that placed on him. That is why his name not making the media was so much in question to me.

But I do think that his days as Marine are limited. Putting holes in the Pentagon or the Marine Recruiter office might be the wish of every Marine at some point in his career. But most find a way to handle the fustration of the career service.grin doh

RE: Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?

Gesh Dude you insult the majority of Americans now.....LOL.........The Tea party and REP combined are the majority in the country. The mid term proved that.

RE: Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?

Am sorry Albert. I did not read the young ladies post that way.
I think she was saying that being employed and having your tax monies go to unemployed is inheritantly unfair.cheers

RE: Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?

I think that I know why the left in Chicago wanted the summer games. Romney ran the Winter game in Salt Lake city. He made profit with it and took over when it was about to financially fail.

So?

The Chicago games was to be the left version of this. President Obama goes to Europe.....to get the games for his home town....Rob Emanuel goes to the Chicago and becomes the mayor....and runs the summer game to a success. Taking the sting from Romney's leading the Olympic games in Salt Lake City.

It was politics....as usual.

RE: Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?

Dude, I get arrested here on felony charges. My photo and my name just made the morning papers. This Muslim Marine.....is caught with explosives and weapons and has fired them at various buildings (including windows and at the people behind them) in the DC area......and they cannot say his name? Cannot place his pic in the media?

Clearly this is because because he is a Muslim. That is the Obama's political correctness is keeping him from being identified or placed into the media.

All the time, young marines are suspects for his crimes. Obama and the media failed his men. Failed to clear them of the suspicion, when they could have.

This Muslim Marine showed himself at the shooting incidents in a Marine Corp uniform. That was done on purpose to demean the honor of Corp. To cause distrust of and within the Corp. The Corp takes that very seriously. So should President Obama.

RE: Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?

Gesh have we opened up the door for the slippery slope here.....
Anyone for the long ride down the water park tube?
laugh rolling on the floor laughing grin

RE: Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?

Why don't you say that the complete and honestway. Or. Obama promised to give Americans the same health care plan that European policians have enjoyed for years.

We are not a copy of Europe. Why is that so hard to understand?
What is good for Europe. Does not mean it is good for the US.
You like high taxes....hey great pay high taxes. I have no problem with it.

But give me a choice between a low tax rate (meaning more disposable income that I can spend) and high tax rate and less disposable income....I choose the first. Why?

It means more things (vacations) I can do with my family. Better food to eat. Better housing. Newer cars to drive and more frequently. In other words a better quality of life. It mean more savings for retirement. More to invest in a busienss or real estate. And a freer life. I choose my vacation. I can choose these other things when I have the income to do so.

Obama wants first to tax the wealthy. But one thing we have learned in the US.....politicians will soon tax were ever the income and money is. If it is with the middle class....they will soon tax the middle class.

RE: Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?

I think that we (tax payers) should pay (tax) the government according to how well it governs. We can take a poll to the value of the Obama administration. Anyone thing that it worth 14trillion in debt? Please raisee your hand now.

But the point is this. Many now are starting to call Obama the 'international president'. Or the 'European president'. He has lost touch with the American people. Another way to say that.....
he no longer represents the interest of the American people.

Think that I am wrong?

Consider Libya. It was some "international parties" that advised him to intercede in Libya.

Consider Obamacare. Obamcare is a socialized health care program straight from Europe.

Consider the Cairo Address. It was for the consumption of 1b Muslims around the world.

We can on here. But it is simple....President Obama ways of governance....is pretty not much in American values and principles. He knows the Constitution well enough to know that he signs the bills passes by Congress and what his POTUS duties are. But that is as far as it gets.

RE: Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?

This is what happens when you have a really big big government.

You lose control and command of the lower level of the agencies.

This is the story of the ATF's "Fast and Furious" program. What is 'Fast and Furious'? Fast and Furious is program to give or sell guns to low level cartel drug runners on the Mexico/US border.

With the idea, that the government could track the weapons to high level cartel leadership to make arrest and take downs.

What went wrong?

Two of the weapons were used as throw aways near the killing of a Border Agent Terry. Other ATF traded guns are being found in the crimes and shooting in North Mexico.

doh In other words. Criminals were using their new guns for crimes. The AFT never got a chance to track them back to high level cartel leaders.

Mexico FEDERALLIES and Government is none to happy with the US Gov't and the ATF on the Fast and Furious program. They don't like getting shot at.

To all this the ATF Director Kenneth Melson.....today says .....
I was sick to my stomache and did not know that the Fast and Furious program was going on. He has demoted the agents responsible.

Also DOJ just put a no talk order on him.....so that is the end of the press conference and more details.

The ATF is not a big agency. But Director Melson does not know that it has a giveway gun program going on? Anyone wish to believe that....I do have some Florida land. Melson that there was a long list of documents that he know has seen on the program. Gee was someone...anyone in his office reading the reports and operation files?

Seems to me...that the one that needs demotion here. Is at the top of ATF.

RE: Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?

So tell us, Dude. What is Obama's policy on Iran?

RE: Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?

Pretty simple Dude. Open and transperent means just that. The Administration should go ahead give the guys name and religious affliation. The media should go ahead and print it up. In other words....be honest.

Let the chips fall were they might. Trying to kick them around for some political goal to appease and protect Islam...is nuts. WE are not going to make them happy by lieing, covering or always apologizing to them.

The entire Marine Corp was effected by this one man's acts. Obama owes it to the Marine Corp....his Marine Corp that is placing their lives on the line for him...and the country to clear them of the suspicion of these shootings.

Now that we know it was a Jhadist Muslim, it makes sense. We are mature enough to handle it. But Newt Grinrich should not be the one going public with the info. He is not in office. Obama is. It should come from the White House or a DoD press release.

RE: Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?

Water. But it is unclear if he was in the act of piracy when detained. He might have been in transit.

RE: Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?

Since we covered the wish wash of if Americans have to be concerned about kidnapped and turned into human bombs.....

Let us discuss the Obama administration treatment of one .....
Abdulkadir Warsame, the head of the Somali terrorist group, Shebab Islamist.

Seems that they kept this terrorist leader on board a Navy Warship in the Indian Ocean for 2 months. During which the RED CROSS was brought in to make sure he was being treated within the conventions. And the US Army Field manual was adhere to.

This prior to turning his over to the FBI and for A New York Court for trail.

So Warsame missed his chance to the inside of GITMO. Misses a military trial. But is sent to NYC....were his supporters and confederates can consider acts of terrorism on the Big Apple.

Now consider for moment. Were did the rumor of surgical implanted bombs come from? bin Laden small library of intell? or from from Warsame? Well pretty hard to tell, yes?

Again the Administration has found a way to keep the American public in the dark. Afraid that if we really understood these foreign threats, we just might want Teddy Roosevelt (or his reincarsination) in the office of the Presidency.

But since this Administration is political correct. A question.
Since when does the Federal Court in NYC have jurisdiction over the Indian Ocean water off Somola? WERe Warsame was taken.
Sure as shottin, a good defense attroeny is going to see that FEDERAL court jurisdiction ends at the borders of the US.

RE: Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?

Hey our fore fathers rebelled against the British over taxes. They were asking to much, to many, to often...so they booted them out of the country in 1776. Most Americans today consider that they don't have representation in Washington. Remember the saying "No Taxation without representation"?

RE: Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?

What a big kidder Netanyahu is.grin We all know he was hoping Trump found a Obama birth certificate in Kenya.grin

RE: Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?

Something else you did not hear much about in the media.....

Tehran.....just hosted the First International Conference on the Global Fight against Terrorism. Now with Iran being considered the biggest host of Islamic terrorism in the world....one would think that most would see this as pure polics and avoid teh conference.

Wrong. 60 Attended....including a special envoy from the UN Sect General Ban Ki-moon. But also in attendance were Hamas, Hezbolloh, Pakistan, Iraq, AFghanistan, Nkorean and Cuba. Like All these parties that have resisted terrorism for so many years (if ever). I am surprised the the Taliban were not invited.

Funny how in the conference the world's great terrorists were suddenly flying the Star and Stripes and Star of David on their flags. Like doh "for sure" as a California Valley girl might say.

Like this has nothing to do with "911 v Iran" court case in a New York Federal court. In which even the California Valley girl is going to clearly see the evidence of a Iran that is complicit in the 911 attack on the United States.

Nor does the Conference timing have anything to do with the bin Laden raid and death. Not that Iran and Pakistan did not know of his were abouts. Iran just has 5 of his immediate family in house arrest in Tehran. Like they would never tell.

Maybe his 4 sons attended the conference and spoke about how
the US violated his human rights with the raid. And from
there.....this UN investigation into his death has sprouted more legs. Even the California Valley girl is doing "like you know".

Newt Grinrich is saying that the Obama administraion is losing its terrorist message to Tehran at this point. Wrong Newt, Obama gave away the terrorist message back at Cairo. Has been giving it away ever since. The bin Laden raid was purely accidental. It was at the request of General Petreuas, who asked for covert operation in AO.

So if this Tehran message sticks.....during the Obama administration watch....the US and Israel will have become the world's biggest terrorist states. And our glorious leader.....and our media.....never said a thing in our defense.

RE: Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?

Herman Cain on healthcare:

"President Obama and liberals in Congress have demantled the free market health care system and replaced it with health care "deform". They passed measures that compromise the sacred doctor-patient relationship, patient choice, stick a beuacracy in the
in the examining room, ration health care and do nothing to limit frivilious lawsuit that drive up the cost of healthcare."

"Under the guise of making health care a 'right' for all people,
President Obama and liberals in Congress instead extended the the tentacles of government, expanded their control and diminished the patients rights. They have also made it more difficult and more expensive for Doctors to practice medicine, including specialists that are needed desperately for saving lives. In reality their attempt to reforming the system, actually have deformed it."

"The majority of American agree: it is itme to repeal and replace Obamacare with patient-centered, free market reforms. It is time to institute ligitimate tort reforms that let Doctor's pratice medicine with out the fear of frivilious lawsuits. Loser pay laws would be a great start! That is, let those that lose frivilious lawsuits pay the legal expense of those found not guilty. Additionaly, loosening the restriction of the Health Saving Accounts would help to empower American to save and invest their own money to expend thier option for health care."

"Let's level the playing field under teh current tax codes and allow deductibility of health insurance premiums regardless if tehy are paid by the employer or the employee. That would help to shift ownership of one's health care back to where it belongs; the individual. Patient-centered heal legislation is stuck committee and they cannot get out. With the right leadership we can get them out and get them passed."

What is the matter with patient-centered health care, Dude?
Most people know when they are sick and need medical attention.

It is common sense.....

RE: Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?

We saw how well Obama vision for out economy went. Why should we trust his judgement on our healthcare?

Just because good old Europe has it?

Good old Europe right now is into debt to good old Europe's ever loving kister. Austerity riots in Greece remember?

All Obama care is wealth redistribution under a different guise anyways. The 40% that don't pay taxes pick up a new government benefit that the 60% that do pay tax pay don't.

Obamacare lost me when it could not pay for special needs kids. Here the 40% that did not pay taxes were getting a new benefit, but the special need kids.....that really need health coverage and more benefits were iced out of the program. Dear old Teddy Kennedy that on his death bed wrote Obamacare. Must have rolled over in his grave when Special Need kids were excluded.

Remember the Kennedy family has supported the Special Olympics for years and years. But a Kennedy written bill on health care excludes them? Give me a break.

Then you have Obamacare taking $500b from senior citizen medicare. That really work in a greying country. In States like FL and AZ with high numbers of elderly. What do the liberal take the elderly for? Being dumbest in the class? Sorry Dude, but every elderly in the country sees that Obama was just tapping his medical benefits to give to give the 40% non taxiing paying citizen of the country.

If Obama cared about the elderly in the country with Obamacare.
Again it is a reason to support it. But he when takes 500b
from their benefits, he acting against their best interest.

Obama care is good for Obama's voting block of youth and non taxer in the country. But for special needs kids, elderly, small business, and self employed it stinks.

So this was just a campaign promise for part of the country. Much of it has been made unconstitutional. It showed how a DEM controlled government played politics in Washington....with back room deals, trades and special clauses in the bill. All showing the DEM can rationalize fairness to a degree ....were it is twisted out of any kind of shape or form.

Dude returning to it......wants just to avoid the real issues of the coming 2012.

RE: President Obama tries his best recovering the economy! Republicans are just Moaning and Whining!

Don't worry about it, you are not worthy enough to have one.

RE: President Obama tries his best recovering the economy! Republicans are just Moaning and Whining!

I quote from your profile..."I am now back (Ireland) were I grew up after living Australia, England and the US".......

So does merely having a American passport make you a qualified critic? Or does one pretend to be a American citizen, when one has a dual citizenship.....and his heart is really in Ireland?

Often the government has gotten very generous with the American passport. I remember under the Bush Senior administration for a minority investment in a American that employed 18 people in the country, the investor got 2 American passport to travel to and from the country with.

RE: President Obama tries his best recovering the economy! Republicans are just Moaning and Whining!

Chris would never understand that. He is still unhappy that bin Laden is fish bait.

RE: President Obama tries his best recovering the economy! Republicans are just Moaning and Whining!

Because we were not finished in either Iraq or Afghanistan. For that matter we are not finished in Pakistan, Iran, or Libya.

RE: President Obama tries his best recovering the economy! Republicans are just Moaning and Whining!

Sometimes I think foreign parties need not make comments on a vibrant and colorful American political scene that first gave the world democracy in the form of a Constitution of the people, by the people and for the people.

This is a list of forum posts created by ttom500.

We use cookies to ensure that you have the best experience possible on our website. Read Our Privacy Policy Here