RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

Screw being careful....you have a monster Communist China that wants to gobble up little old Tiawan. And turn it into a Prison Island for disloyal Chinese to Mao and Coummunist China. Give them the nuc. Give them the nuc. Given them the nuc.

China sitting there and insulting the Hoyas basketball team. Insulting Biden as they remove the press corp to keep him from being heard. Screw em. Give Tiawan and South Korea for that matter the nuc. Give South Korea the nuc and see if NKorea is shelling any islands any time soon or sinking any SKorean frigates. I bet that stops.......

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

Maybe we can get the Taiwanese their very own nuclear devices to have to defend their country against massive Chinese aggression? What a idea! Isreal might have a few extra. There are number of EU parties that have some nucs. They might be willing to share the nuclear wealth.

Shucks we can go on the black market and pick some up from NKorea or Pakistan for the Taiwanese.

So much for reconcilation.......it is just the NKorean/SKorea issue in reverse...and we both know how well reconcilation has done there. With the North pulling artillery lanyards every so often to kill fish in the Yellow sea.

RE: Is Obama a Socialist

Juan it is, All in good fun now. Obama has spent your future. Your children's future. Their children's future. For what? Certainly not to give them the decision making empowerment of having the wealth in the future.

No, he spent the country to the brink of economic collapse to just to do what McCarthy is saying. Failing the free markets of the republic. McCarthy book was published in 2010. Yet he predicted this 2011 deficit ceiling crisis and economic havoc it would cause.

McCarthy is a trained prosecuting criminal attroney, He is not some economist looking at numbers from the economic sectors to make the prediction. McCarthy is looking at motives and linkage. Obama's ideological motives for his decisions. His linkage with others in the far left. And later he makes the connection between the American left and radical Islam.

I cheated..I read ahead. It is a doozy of a connection. I will give you a hint. It revolves around the lone DEM Muslim representative in the House of Congress. A man that has changed his name 7 times. Why does a honest man change his name 7 times? I will let your consider that for a while.

Ever since this Debt ceiling crisis has been going on...for the last three weeks the stock markets has free fallen. The world's market have free fallen. It was not the REP or the Tea Party that did the spending. But of course we were not going to have double dip that carried us into a depression. When do you call this a second double dip?

It is like this.You can drive car fast or slow.You drive slow, you get better miles per gallon and go further and longer. You drive fast and have less mile per gallon and will run out of gas sooner travel shorter. The car literally has no fuel to run on.

Spending money in the Federal Government has often been termed the fuel that drives the economy. He spent fast for a reason......to run out of gas and fail the country. When S & P downgrades the bonds and literally begins that process....what does he do? Begin a investigation into S & P. Like I said it is all in good fun, for liberals and leftists that have wanted to fail this country for the last 30 years.

Don't kid yourself Juan....the American people realized they made horrible mistake with Obama's election in 2008. That is why the mid term were a diaster for the DEM and why Obama approvals just hit 39%, the lowest yet.

RE: Is Obama a Socialist

Actually Andrew C. McCarthy makes a case that Obama is a Alinskyite.

He says on page 11 of his book, "It is vital to remember that the President is a Alinskyite, so steeped in the ideology of the seminal community organizer that he became a top instructor in Alinskyite tactics for other up-and-coming radicals. Alinskyites are fifth-columnists. The have, in substance the same goals as open revolutionaries; overthrowing the exiting free market republic and replacing it with a radical's utopia."

McCarthy has said a mouthful here. It sounds like he is talking like
1950's Senator McCarty that engaged Communist 5 columist with his Congressional hearing. But he is not. Alinsky came along after the McCarty 1950s hearings on Communism. Alinsky is a anarchist, that wanted to use any mean possible to destroy to the country and to mold this radical utopia. That does not necessarily make him or Obama a Socialist or Communist.

The goals of Alinsky's utopia and assusming Obama is a Alinskyite...."it will be perfect, communal, equal and just."

But for a moment say McCarty has hit the nail on the head. Obama is a Alinskyite. Does that explain the health care bill? The reason the government has moved so slowly rebuild confidence in the free markets?
Obama's lack of interest in the Constitution and the laws of the country? And his laise faire approach to goverance? The crisis approach to government? The answer there is yes.

Alinsky would be perfectly at home in the Obama administration.....

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

You know what is interesting about the entire Chinese and debt issue thingee?

The Chinese were the first to devalue the US bond and note. Even before S and P did it. Now when they devalued our notes and bonds.....they had to know it was going to cost them billions. They are the single largest holder of US treasuries in the world.

So if they resell devalued notes and bond....they will get less for them on the market. To downgrade the US notes and bonds, literally cost them billions.

So what is the objective of the Chinese? If they are willing lose billions in the devaluing US treasuries? They are more willing to wreck the US economy that to suffer the financial loses in the billions. Is how I would intrepret that.

So this uncivility being played on Biden and Hoyas now in China....it is part of a bigger strategy on the part of the Chinese.
They can show little respect for freedom of press in the Biden case.
And can lay a mugging on a college basketball team by a more mature and military trained basketball team.

Personally, I think that the Obama admisntration should reconsider the sale of the 26 F-16s to Tiawan. The Obama admsintration just denied the request prior to the Biden trip. In hopes to appease the Chinese.
So much for appeasing the Chinese.

We need to work and contracts here in the US with unemployment at 9&..I say double the number of F-16s to Tiawan. We keep hearing about the Great China market. 1 billion people all in one country. When we go there....we get forged and faked products like Apples just did. Most of the 1 billion don't much of a per capita income to buy very much anyways.

The real buyer in the China...is the China communist government. Who wants to deal with their thuggery?

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

You got to know that this was staged by the Chinese. From the Hoyas brawl with a Chinese military/Pro team....to the media being forced from the room...good old Joe is going to be lucky to come home with his teleprompters.

The Hoyas right now are likely practicing in open playground BB court with two old basketballs. With a 100 old Chinese women watching them practice. Not exactly the good will tour that they had hoped for.

The Chinese are not going to quit...once they start this kind of stuff.
From here it only gets worse.jmo

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

Cute dog ..Conrad.....is that a Portugese Hairless water dog in the hunt?
rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

I have been attempting to figure out ....if crisis and unrest follow liberals ......or if crisis and unrest are predistined by liberals.
There is a difference.grin

You can have trouble following you all around. But it is not your making. It is just part of life. On the other hand....you can predistine trouble into your life with the decisions and actions you take.grin

Bringing me to VP Biden in China.

The State department decides to allow a serises of exibition basketball games by the Georgetown Hoyas to occur during the Biden trip. Only when facing a China military/pro team....things got out of hand and it remind one more of a NBA game with Dennis Rodman. Chairs are being thrown..fist a cuffs on the floor...and a whole lot of pushin ans shovin going...because as we all know Basketball is not Hockey, the blood sport of sports.

Well most of the time.grin

While with the media covering VP Biden meeting with a senior Chinese official. Another pushin and shovin match broke out. The media had listen to VP Biden speak for about 5-6 minutes.....when the Chinese decided he had spoken to long.

rolling on the floor laughing help The Chinese never sat thru good old Joe speaking on the Senate floor. 6 minutes is a mere warm up for Joe. Maybe the Chinese knew this?

So in a preemptive strike on a Biden flibuster of the meeting, the Chinese decide to force the reporters from the room. Chinese security locks arms and pushes on them from the room and into the hallway. With good old Joe blarin and blastin away in the background.rolling on the floor laughing

Good old Joe should have seen what was happening. That the Chinese were suppressing freedom of the press. He should have picked his talking points notes.....walked out of the room.....and headed straight to Air Force II for a return flight to the US. But not good old Joe, he is on a mission to make detante' come hell or high water
with the Chinese.

No matter what ungracious thing the Chinese do to the Hoyas, the western press of him. This was clearly orchestrated by the Chinese. That are still angry over the US debt issues/deal. The Dalia Lama in the White House. And being caught in the Iran/NKorean weapon deals by the UN. So good old Joe and the Hoyas are the choice targets of some Chinese gamesmanship.

While from the White House, not a peep was heard. And from the State Department Hillary Clinton meekly raised her voice in protest to the uncivil treatment. Hillary it is only 13,000 mile to China to ref the Hoyas next Basketball games.....can you make it in time? grin And to get god old Joe out some hot water?

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

Don't be like that Reb. Cast your one legally and honest for who ever you support. Even if they steal the election with illegal voters....you supported the system and democracy with the legal vote.

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

With his approvals falling into the high 30s, President Obama has moved to assuring that most illegal aliens now in the country....will remain in the country until after the 2012 election.

ICE from now on will focus on deporting 'violent illegal aliens' and allowing the vast majority of non criminal illegal aliens to remain. OPPs....except illegally crossing the border in a criminal act. Just not a violent criminal act.

Again the Obama administration plays games with our laws. Choosing to enforce some while ignoring others. You say what harm are the non violent illegal aliens to America? They are they one filling our hospitals for free medial attention. They are the ones demanding higher education paid by the government. They are the ones resisting the Arizona identity laws.

If you are going to have peaceful and respectful society...then having millions of non violent illegal aliens.......is still a disrupting factor. They choose to cross the border illegally....that is a crime.

But not one that the Obama administration deems worth prosecuting. To him the sanctionary cities are the havens for illegal as they move into slum conditions of poverty and destitution. Just like what has happened in Europe with influx of Africans and Moslems. Were you today have rioting and civil unrest. He makes the same conditions for future unrest in the country that there is in Europe today.

But they are also votes. As ACORN will register them 100s times in fraudalent voter applications. Some of which will be approved with a voter card or multiple voter cards under various names. And like in South Carolina that does not have requirement for photo ID, they slip into a poll and vote. And this is the real reason that non violent illegal aliens are not being deported.

Obama knows that he needs every vote....legal and illegal to keep the office in 2012. He has watched his approvals sink and sink and sink.
So now he turns to non registered voters..,illegals that have failed to enter the country legally or to complete a pathway to citizenship...to keep him in office in 2012.

This is the extent that Obama will go to keep power. Between this and the supression of the polls by groups like Black Panthers, that though convicted of voter harassment, were not imprisoned by the FED government. Obama makes a mockery of our democracy, its laws and our freedoms.

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While in California the FED broke a criminal ring of 60 persons. Mexican and Iraqi that were dealing in drugs, guns and ......IEDS.
One would think that they are subject to deportation. Not necessarily.
If the guns were not used in a crime and the IEDs were not detonated and the drugs caused no death or injuries.....then it is non violent criminal activity.

This is the mucky muck of the political correctness of the Obama administration. Here you have likely have hardened criminals that have come into the country, yet by the technical loop holes that the Obama administration makes with its policies. It is unclear if they will be deported.

Of the 60....50 will likely vote in the 2012....150 times. Just like the 3 DEM voters in South Carolina did for Obama in 2008, three time each. Once America saw Obama stop the work on the SW border fence and left 600 miles of the border open to crossing illegaly, we knew what was afoot for the 2012.

That Obama was going to base his re-election on the votes of the 12 -14 m illegal aliens in the country. Most with multiple ID that ACORN can register time again.

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

Cheney is coming out with a book. It is have to read for any one that wants the inside scoops on the GWB administration. But Cheney is going to go after the Obama Administration big time is my guess.

With Iraq turning hot....and with the US Combat forces being withdrawn....Obama and company have a serious Iraqi problem developing. Dang you just cannot trust those Iranian supplied Shia militia to keep their word on ceasefires....

All this just in time for the 2012 Presidential campaign.....

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

I always wondered how Biden kept his tan up. The sun deck on the Biden bus explains it all...........grin

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

And please tell us that Michele Obama is not a VIP in Obama Adminstration? What aircraft did she use to vacation Spain with? To take the 120 Secret Service agents? LOL................

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

Then why during the during the transtition ......did the Obama adminstration accept the GWB accounting of the two wars? He had 90 days to say that billions were stolen and lost in Iraq and Afghanistan.....but not a beep or request for more reports on the funding and expendiatures of the wars.

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

He is at 97% against and 3% for. LOL....................and the thread is only couple days old. CS moderators be mericful. Put the thread out of its misery soon. As Dude checks the poll numbers not even riding his bike on the Denmark super bike ways can help.grin

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

Let us start off with how successful Obama and liberal ideas for America have been the last few years.........

NASA....................................Grounded Because the US went to the moon and it insulted Islam

High Speed Rail.........................Was not Shovel Ready

Health Care.............................Unconstitutional

Job Creation............................Unemployment is still over 9%

Deficit.................................Obama spent the country to the debt limit and got S and P to devalue its bonds to AA+

National Security.......................the Bin Laden Raid is the only major success in the war on Terrorism for the last 3 years

START Treaty...........................Obama signed a nuclear disarmament treaty with Russia that is rearming

Chinese BOP, Foreign Currency Exchange and T-Bill sales..........
Obama has given the Chinese free reign to acquire as much US debt as it wants. He has not resolved the BOP or the Currency issues with China

NKorea................................is still send little explosive packages into South Korea by air mail after being fired from a cannon

Iran..................................just had the biggest expanse of radical Islam as many of the Arab Spring rebellion are turning Islamic
and get closer to a nuc test every day

Libya.................................Qdaffi still sits in his Tripoli bunker

Southwest Border......................Still leaks like a sieve. Drugs s are coming accross in greater quantities than ever before. National Forest are being turned into weed farms

DoD Budget and Advance Military System..........slashed so that future
President will not have the advanced weapons to defend the country or to fight foreign wars.

There is Obama's liberal ideas at work..................

RE: Danish Views On Multiculturalism

Just picked up....Andrew C. McCarthy's "The Grand Jihad: How Islam and the Left Sabotage America"

A quote of the books cover leaf..."The real threat to the United States is not terrorism. The real threat is sophisticated forces of Islam, which have collaborated the American left not only to undermine US National Security, but also to shred the fabric of American democracy-freedom and individual liberty."

If you think that you have heard Andrew McCarthy name before....he was Federal Prosecuting Attroney that convicted the 'blind sheik' and other terrorist the bombed the World Trade center in 1993. In that conviction, he connected the 'blind sheik' to one bin Laden.

Should be a interesting read. I will post good quotes as they come up here.

RE: Is Obama a Socialist

Secret Service has bought two 1.1m dollar Buses for President Obama to cruise around and campaign from. Air Force One is getting jealous sitting on the tarmac someplace....that is right....J Biden and Michelle Obama need Air Force One for trips to Afghanistan and Spain.

So the President had to down scale to the RV world with the rest of the impoverished country. We have some nice trailer parks down here in Florida, were he can hooken up to the power and water. Add a some pink Flamigos out front to make the President feel at home.rolling on the floor laughing

The buses are painted a shiny black and with dark shaded (likely bullet proof glass). Kind of reminds you of a big and bad Hollywood scream movie vehicle with POTUS written on the hood.rolling on the floor laughing

So the next time you are cruisin down the interstate and two black buses cruise by doing 90+mph...don't giggle 911 to complain and ask for a high patrol man out there to stop em for a ticket. It the President in the lead bus....and when he tosses them over board.....REV Right, Rob Emanuel, Jones....etc etc etc......the second bus can hit em they bounce down the pavement.rolling on the floor laughing

RE: PERRY THREATENS BERNANKE !

Cannot you read between the political speak Juan? Perry said that if Bernake printed more money, it would be "like treason" in this economy.

No threat there.....just the illusion of total irresponsibility to the country if Bernake used his FED position for printing money to feed the Obama consuming money machine.

RE: Is Obama a Socialist

Can I interject the idea that the HHS new resource boards are in fact de facto type of Euthanisa program...or can be assuming that they can keep grand pa from getting the heart valves that he needs?

RE: The republican-led congress in the USA may want to think twice about not increasing taxes on the sup

Let see how well Warren Buffet's Hathway does paying 50% Corporate income tax when all the other competitive mutual funds pay 35% Corporate tax.

If you want to see a flood of investors leaving a ship........grin

RE: what should be done

Be fair Juan, Prime Minister came to the us asking for law enforcement advice on how to handle riots. We did not go to him. It is kind of like NATO coming to us asking for help on Libya.......

RE: Is Obama a Socialist

The US Postal Service is considering laying off 220,000 with a 4 billion dollar lose this last quarter. Already they are talking about a 4 day work week for mail delivery. Some 3200 Post Office are to be closed.

Now I realize that is totally foolish to think that the President of the United States should be able to get the mail delivered. I mean mail has been consistently delivered in this country......even during the Revolutionary war.

This is the country that invented the saying....'neither rain, sleet nor snow the mail must go thru.'

This is the country decimated by atomic destruction and a civil war and the heroic Kevin Costner still got the mail thru in the Postman.

So to see the USPS fold up like a cheap suit when faced with private competition of FEDEX, UPS and Microsoft...is well disheartening.

At a time when confidence is the issue. The USPS service begins to close doors? Some 3200 smaller post office around the country are being closed. Mainstreet America finds allot of confidence building in that picture of the FED government.

GM can get a bailout? Merrill Lynch can get a bailout? Fannie Mea can get a bailout? Each serving only a fraction of the countries population that the USPS does....and the Post Office cannot get a bailout?

Give me a break. The real reason that USPS cannot get a bailout is that the Obama administration spent the country to the deficit ceiling. And this White House forgot to place the money into the budget for a bailout of the Postal service. Just exactly what happened with the 200 FAA construction projects. Just what happened with NASA.

Good governace is also about the details. This administration is missing the details of good government.

President Obama has become the "axe man" of the Federal government.What is a "axe man"? It is a Corporate term....when a company is taken over in a hostile take over....the new owner off send in a 'axe man' to chop away the dead wood in the acquired company.
They are the guys handing out pink slips like candy to the long term employees and placing their retirement into doubt. Axeman for the most part are one step above a use car salesman that sells Yugos and calls them Cherry. Danny Devito played a axe man in his movie on hostile take overs.

Perhaps that is what we have had in the US....a hostile take over. Now the President is cutting dead wood.....

RE: Who would you like to see as the United States President in 2013?

Since Dude.....has not blessed us with a new Obama thread. Did I say that....just some some recent political news.

REP had a 'rip roaring' debate last night. Newt Grinrich told Wallace who asked him a 'gotcha question'...that he was there to exchange ideas
and not to play gotcha media games

MN Sen Bachmann and Gov Palenty seem to more from the different side of the planet other than from the same state. The next debate....don't place them next to each other....fist a cuffs might break out.

Romney tried to defend layoff several 100 people when he was a banker and said he and Cain were the only ones on the podium with any business experience.

Huntsman said he was not a Obama hiringly for taking the China Ambassador appointment under his administration. That is was a responsible position....as Obama use him to sell the T-Bills to the China early in the Administration.

Cain had a 4 points solution on every problem and question that came up. The problem was...it seemed to be the same 4 points for each question and problem.

And this happened in the first two rounds of questions. At which point, I went to bed. Knowing the rounds 3 and 4 were going to be more of the same.

When running for President.....one needs to be a carry a certain air of authority and intergrity.....sadly it was missing last night in the REP debate.

RE: riots in London

Me thinks that Europe is going Conservative, Conrad....after reading the replies to the UK rioting here. Welcome abroad fellows. There is room in bow and aft, and you only have to row every other hour.laugh

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

I think we should do a muscial.....you know like South Paciifc or Oklahoma....or the best of them....Music Man


The one song in Musis Man.....were Merdith Wilson sings..."Ya got Troubles " if you don't remember it ...it goes like this.

well, ya got trouble, my friends
right here, I say trouble right here in River City
why sure I a billiard player, certainly mighty proud to say
I'm always mighty proud to say it

Only we substitute...crisis...for troubles....:-)

So it goes like this

well, ya got crisis, my friends
right here, I say say crisis right here in America City us of A
why sure I am a political player, certainly mighty proud to say
I'm always mighty proud to say it

oh we got crisis
we are in terrible terrible crisis
that money making market game is the devil's tool
aahhhh, we got crisis, crisis, crisis, (oh yes, we got crisis, here
we got big, big crisis
with a C (with a Capitol C)
that gotta rhymes with DC that (rhymes with Washington DC)
and that stands for CRISIS

grin

RE: The 2012 Olympics to be moved to a safer country?

That is because they keep record in those countries. Many countries like African and Central Aaia countries don't keep records even.....
or the ones they are so failed you cannot trust them.....

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

I watch the stock market reports yesterday....on one of those channels....you know those ones.laugh

They were giddy with excitement with the rally. But I saw the short term T-Bill taking a beating and the dollar was crushed.

Today they say....the foreign parties are buying T-Bill and don't recognise S and P's devaluation. Did they see the beating T-Bill and the Dollar took yesterday? Hwo read this stuff and interprets for them?

The three blind mice?

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

President Obama came and said...'he inherited much of the economic problems". A sure finger point to the Bush administration. No DEM ever points at the Clinton administration. It was a economic marvel of the day.

But were was the President for the 10 of the Bush administation? Most Americans realized we were in a global war with very nasty people.
War time spending increases subtanitially over a peace time spending.
What did he want Bush to do? Fight the conflict with his hand tied behind his back with stones?

Or develop new military technologies that would save lives and achieve a military victory in the end?

Liberal like to point at Bush and say he spent alot to. He did and in the right places. For national defense. For border security. For fighting two wars. Many of those liberals are alive today.....because Bush spent the money to defend them.

While Obama has cut our DoD by over 200 billions. He still over spends Bush in the two wars even though withdrawal are occuring. He wrecks the health care system for a unconstitutional socialist mumbo jumbo piece of ad hoc legislative that no one understands. Causing the Health insurance rates to sky rocket faster than the NASA rockets.

Obama has over spent Bush by billion in only 3 years. Yet he cannot afford a NASA manned program? What kind of fruit cake approach to innovation and future development is this?

This was all done prior to the S and P devaluation of the Government bond rating. Does anyone have real doubt here that the Obama administration is at the heart of the S and P downrating?

Sure the Tea Party and REP resistance to Obama's spending played a role. Without it, there would be nothing to rate. Obama would have spent it.doh

A much more accurate statement from the President is this....."I inherited fiscal mess and I did little to change it. If anything I made it worse. Because I dug the hole deeper."

That is a honest statement of this Administration and and its economic policies.

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

I will stick my neck and ask the question........have we hit the second dip in a double dip recession?

Or another way to ask are we in a major depression?

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