RE: Most powerful and dangerous man on earth you never heard of

Whoever is giving all these thumbs up and thumbs down Knock it off.

Personally, I think that the guy with the cruise missiles and the nuc football is the most dangerous man in the world. But hey that is just me finding a hole to hang my hat in. When the Chinese ask for a payback on the 7t dollars of new Americna debt they are about to buy.

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

Some news that will brighten Dude days, first.

Happy Birthday No 50 Mr. President! Please consider the 7t is debt ceiling raise the countries birthday gift to you. We know it will
be spent well.....it will be spent. What more can a President want
for his birthday, than 7t to spend?
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Article out that says alQeada is on it last legs. That the bin Laden raid took the last of the old leaders of 911 down. That with more pressure on Pakistan gov't thing should improve there requiring the Taliban and alQeada bases. A one time DoD study of them....numbered them at about 400. Like you got 400 Taliban and alQeada bases in your country and don't know that they are there? Even Sergeant Schultz (Mr. I know Nothing) could not pull that one off.

Some really wise Paksitani terrorist leader has..likely done the worse possible strategic terrorist attack in all time. They did a bombing in China that killed 11 Chinese. In the same province were the Hgullise
rebelled a few years ago. China says they have evidence that the bomb makers had training in the terrorist camps of Pakistan.

At this point...I wish to denote China's 14m man army...and its growing military abilities. Its vast economic resources. Not to mention that Pakistan government and China government are very close. Me thinks that how China handles terrorism and how the US handles terrorism is two very different things. But on the upside.....we can always rent China .....GITMO for a 99 year lease as they capture and detain Islamic terrorist in the region. Lastly, it was the Chinese that invented water torture.:-)

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Congress is moving quickly on votes in the House and Senate on the new debt bill. The question is there enough join support of both parties for doing a deal and the bills? This time expect your far liberal and far rights to vote no on the bills. McConnell may wave the 60% requirement in the Senate for a simple 50% passage. If so the Seante will vote it in without any problem.

But in the House with 88 TEA Party members on one end and Pelosi liberal cacus on the other end, finding passage here might be more challenging. 213 is the magic number. Can Boehener find it? Will Pelosi pull her liberals out of supporting the bill? The Tea Party is going to split on this. There will be enough Tea Party that don't want a default to vote for the bill. But there will be some some like Senate Bachmann that will refuse to vote a debt ceiling raise of any kind.

Don't invite them to the birthday party, Mr. President is my recommendation.:-)

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Well with all that good news, one needs have some rain.

More DEMs are disillusion with President Obama. Polls are showing the his liberal base have really not taken well to a budget without a tax on the rich. Hence I see a one day phone campaign coming on Nancy Pelosi liberal in the House to vote down the bill.

Moderate DEM were already there. But now liberal DEM that felt
wealth redistribution was the way to go....are. With President Obama endorsing the bill, he may get some of the moderates back. And really were do the liberals have to go in 2012?

So happy birthday Mr. President. Here on CS...we don't hold old political grudges....I will even toss in a birthday cake....cake and
party hat from the local Dollar Store but the gift was the 7t debt ceiling raise cheers so you can buy the beer.

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

Ladeis and gentelemen

One of the most disturbning events in today,s America which many human beings who beleive in free elections are thinking a bout now on days.... and actually began to worry a bout very seriosuly after GOP decided to make president Obama Fail no matter the cost... is all these GOP governers all over America who are fighting against the very foundation of free ellections in America and preventing America from ellecting politicians the majorities decide.

Republican governers all way from Winsconsin to Florida to Indiana and Arizona and Texas and any where with a GOP on charge... have made several new rules in order of preventing many voters of participation and even the excuse is preventing Fraud ...




What is wrong GOP guys? You guys have Definately NOT got what it takes becoming really trust worthy or responsibled enough or having any real plans solving american issues and you guys even knowing this and that is why you try to stop majorities of America kicking U far a way form office by the power of votes... right?

Some GOP folks even want to change the very constitution of the United States of America and is talking a bout with holding the whole entire american economy a

Dude? If a person does not or cannot get a ID (drivers license with photo, state ID card, birth certificate) how do you know he/she is American citizen? We have 120m tourists passing tru country annually.
Should the get a vote when have a election?

Without a ID how do you stop a person from voting several time in more than one prenict?

And if a balance budget admendment is holding the economy hostage....they every responsible household and business in the country
has been held hostage by the Obama administration that wants that check to cash when it pays a tax by check.

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

They have agreement of the party leaders and the White House on the Debt ceiling. Now they take it to the Senate for votes.

Some feature of the bill .........

7t in new debt in two stage
(yuck)

balance budget admendment clause
(yea)

1t in budget cuts
(yea)

Was it enough to get the Tea Party on board? To keep a devaluing from occurring?

Time will tell.

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

Opps

Had more known that the Kurds were doing military advances into Sunni territory....some might have just cosnider the withdrawal as being done in haste. Which is exactly the message that the Kurds have been sending to Washington and Baghdad.

But the world media.....has been remiss in making such known. Also that Iraqi has recently told Iran to lay off the Kurdish north.

Iraq has a shipment of F-16s headed it way. 32 is the number, I think. The Obama administration feels that Iraq needs heavy weapons. The kind that can protect the skies from Iranian overflights and can also lay in close air support on a Shia militia or the Kurds if they get 'out of hand'.

Anyone see any trouble coming for Iraq? A Iraq with heavy weapons? A Iraq with one of the three sects having access to heavy weapons? Ah yes.....more crisis.

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

Is it not interesting that the information we get from Ira these days seems to be.....thin to non existent. Like what you say?

Like the Kurds sending 10000 man division to Kirkuk in Feb for 30 days. Surrounding the city and challenging President Maliki and the US to move them.

Yes, back in FEB 10000 Kurds moved from the north to central Iraq to surround the city. Anyone hear about it in the news? Not here. Those are things that catch my attention.

But why would the media of the world hide a 10000 man military movement and the siege of a major city? A siege that nearly came to blows with the locals and Iraqi military.

I suggest that is how much the world media is in the tank for President Obama. This 30 day siege has to show how disfunctional
Iraq still is as he withdraw US forces. H

RE: Will the US Default?

If we default, will President Obama go to the major capitols of world and apologize?

You know a "Default World Tour" like rock bands do. London, Paris, Berlin, Rome, Moscow, Peking, Toyko, Cairo, Mexico City, Rio, Havana,
Carcus....I can add more. But I think that you get the point. Maybe he can do 135 cities in 18 months till the 2012 Presidential election is here. grin

RE: Land Of Milk&Honey?.....But The Milk Turned Sour.......

There was so much stealing of the Revolution following the sailor rebellion on the Potekim....but I though it was the Communists took it from the Blosviks.

The ones that got the real short of the stick? Were the White Russians. They lost a entire army in Ural Mountains/Siberia.....many of them were the first inmates of the Siberian gulags. Of course there is the US ARMY expeditary division that went to Russia for the first World War....and only 4 of 11,000 came back to the US. They don't talk about that much at the Pentagon. Not one of their better deployment planning sessions.

RE: Land Of Milk&Honey?.....But The Milk Turned Sour.......

Wow think what you have if you left the 9000 there. Each time a blockade runner was stopped, Hamas would be looking for a kidnapping or target. When Egypt was involved in the Arab Spring and GAZA came open, the 9000 were in danger.

Israel could place the IDF there. But it is a solution that is less than optimum. You are just building up the heat for enfatada. The first objective of a leader is protect your people. In this case the 9000 are in Israel to collect their resettlement awards. Hopefully to live long and prosperous lives.

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

That is the one, Conrad. The pre Sarah Palin, Nancy Pelosi look.

Ever notice how after Palin came on the political scene in 2008, DEM ladies wear their hair down. REP ladies wear their hair up. Think about it. Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi did the fastest natural hair style of recent times.

It is kind of like a limptus test for determining party affliation. Hair up...REP Hair down ....DEM.

Walk into a room of 50 women with hair on their shoulders. You are in big trouble. Toss those REP talking points and hang on to your hat in the Q and A. If you have a hat at the end of the Q and A, you have done well.grin

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

Harry Reid's budget plan died in the Senate 50 to 49. This was the plan to bring both parties together. Harry said it was the one that was going to see the President desk.

Harry Reid just lost a whole of power in the Senate. John Boehener just picked up a whole of power in the House.

Media is saying that 'they are closer than ever' to getting a deal done. Media must know something that we don't. Maybe Murdock has tapped into the White House voice system.grin doh

Odds were 50 to 50 a default prior to the two votes. Las Vegas odd makers now have it 25 to 75 that a default happens. They use to say death and taxes, you cannot avoid either one. I think that they within 72 hour of adding a new phrase to that saying. Now.....death, defaults and taxes you cannot avoid.

RE: Land Of Milk&Honey?.....But The Milk Turned Sour.......

I got a kickout of leader of the Muslim group that announced the protest....when he called themselves 'liberals' and not 'moderates'.
Suddenly I have visions of Denmark and Coppenhaggen here in Cairo and Egypt.

But clearly their liberal or moderate movements are being hijacked by Islamists. That is truly tragic. It reminds me of when the Blosviks in Russia had their movement stolen by the Communists in the post WWI period. In pretty much the same manner.

Castro stealing a democratic movement in Cuba for the Communist party.

By the way Netanyhu made this statement the other day when asked about the GAZA blockade. In effect he said you can import anything in GAZA unless it weapons or explosives. Vehicles, food, medicine, dry goods are all legal to be imported. He went on to say that last year, the GNP in GAZA was up 25%. Were he got the figures, I don't know.

Anyone wish to debate were the GAZA and Egyptian economies will be if Islamist gain full control of the Egyptian Government? Before you answer, please think of Iran after Khomenie came to power. If they do American and European tourism will tank. Well except for those liberal from Cooppenhaggen with a kindred spirit to the protest leaders.

RE: DEBT Ceiling and the Government

26m people are not extremist Juan. If you have 26m extremist people of left or right leaning in this country of 308m, you would have what is happening in the Arab Spring country of this summer. Only in the US.

The Tea Party 1m man Honor America Washington by Beck was not a extremist display. No riots occurred. No cross were burned on the White House front lawn. Washington was able to function.

While those protest in Cairo shut the government down and they were directed at the government to fail it.

RE: Most powerful and dangerous man on earth you never heard of

Yes both parties in Congress made more waffles than IHOP does on a weekend. But who let the waffling happen in Congress?

Remember Reagon's approach to the traffic controller strike? Hey I will fire these and get new ones. Obama could nor fire Congress, but he could have given Congress his plan for the ending the crisis.

Were the REP going to rip into it? Sure. But then they have common point of knowing what was acceptable to him and what was not. Instead the REP place plan on the table, that Reid tables and Pelosi attacks.
And politics is played again.

RE: Will the US Default?

Ain't that funny Conrad...Sach Goldman, CitiCorp, Bof A....all suddenly want a deficit ceiling done and done now.

A little poetry for the approriate for the times.

Get er done the bankers say.
Use Reid's plan any old way.
Come high water or whatever may.
It does not matter were the tax burden lay.

We got ours in the stimuli.
So Obama is our best buddi.
All we need now is more moni
And that new red Ferrari.
grin

RE: Will the US Default?

Can I vote on this on August 3rd? I will give you the right answer, I promise.grin

RE: Most powerful and dangerous man on earth you never heard of

Obie, Tim Geither said months ago that the US was headed to a default on August 2nd. All during that time the world's most powerful man sat in the White House and either:

1) Played a fiddle while Rome Burned
2) Twiddled his thumbs
3) Yawned and had another Kobe Steak
4) Played golf on Saturday and Sunday
5) Used Air Force for vacations
6) Figured new GPM standards for auto makers
7) All of the above
or
8) Solved the problem of the debt crisis with his own plan

Hint my answer is somewhere from 1-7. Your answer is?

RE: Is Obama a Socialist

But at the end of Russia, people were starving. The bread shelves were barren. They had lines and que for basics of life.The economic models of Communism had fallen and failed. How bad was the collapse of the Russian economic system? I will tell you.

I visited a Baltic sea country only 2 years after the breakup of Russia.

We are driving by a bakery. All the delivery trucks had their tires removed and battery taken out by the Russia troops that were headed back to Russia. I asked my host, why? She says the Russia troop said they did not have tires and battery back in Russia and it was to punish the locals.

Russia self imploded not because it was a 'good society'. Russia self imploded because it had made a society were a few benefited over the many. Were ever it went in the world, it oppressed and punished the people there.

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

What I really like here was the response of Nancy Pelos to the REP bill....."We have to save the country and the world from the horrible budget cutting of the REP"...........what a joke Nancy. Obama, Reid and you, have taken the world's strongest economy driven it to the edge of bankruptcy and with a pending default only days away......that will cost Americans billions in higher interest rates.

So you can be the drama queen of the moment in a attack on the REP budget plan!

Talk about reactionary politics! Nancy Reacts overreacts just by smiling. Most politician might lie by smiling. But Nancy is well past that.

Conrad, little Nancy Pelosi at this time please?


But the real question is.....is this one crisis to far for America?
Like WWII's a bridge to far. Were a English Para unit was sent on mission just to deep into German held Holland and lost. Has President Obama been to ruin the world's strong economy in 3 short years?

There I can happily tell you no. The mainstreet economics are still functioning here. Bread is on the shelves of stores. Gas comes from the out of the pump at a filing station. The local bus line still operates. Electricity still flows thru the wires to business and homes.

But on the international scene and in the high finance realm of the world, President Obama lack of budget/debt leadership has to be noted.
Obviously something in the White House failed to get a handle on the impact of a long term fiscal crisis that was not contained or stopped.

This coming devaluation is real damage to the creditability and credit worthiness of the country. Assuming it happens. There is not much to keep it from happening. Moodys is saying it will not devalue the bond rating, that nearly solely on the REP house plan that made. But S & P and the other bond raters are non committal at this time.

Has the President Obama made a crisis to far? Not for mainstreet America. But for banking and diplomatic America maybe yes. American diplomatic that say to a poverty stuck country....that aid check is in the mail....are going to met..."OH sure it is"...if we default. American business and banks doing business abroad are all going to have new banking regulation place on them when a check, letter of credit or wire transfer is made.

This is all because of the spending and lack of fiscal control within the present administration. If it cannot work within it means on a balanced budget, why ask Americans to tighten the belt and work within their limited means?

Was not this going to be 'shared pain' that all the country felt? Or was it a pain enplaced on some of the country by the Administration?
Pesdient Obama's fiscal crisis for the country has not effected mainstreet America yet. But if that default rating come, the next time you by a new car and the dealer qoutes you interest rate from .5 to 2.0 higher than in the past. Thank President Obama for it.

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

lastly Dude, you know who supports the Reid Senate plan? All the big banker like Sach Goldman, BofA, Citicorp.....the same major banks that were on Obama Stimulus package.

They have lobbying to get a bill done ASAP. Sure it could be because of the instabilties in the marketplace and wall street. That I agree. But also it could be that Obama's Stimulus plan gave them a lot of money and now is collection day. You have to agree.

RE: DEBT Ceiling and the Government

sssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. You will start to get the local CS to think that we are not the 500 pound Gorilla on the block with our knucklss dragging on the ground. Please keep it a secret that we are pretty nice.

Thank you for the compliment......grin

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

To further demonstrate that liberals are status qou and reactionary.
Take Harry Reid today. Harry is caught between a rock and hard place.

Earlier he said...'his bill is the only one that can get bi partisan support to get to the President for signature.' So little does he know that Obama and McConnell are having behind the scene meetings/phone calls and are iron on difference on the House bill. Nor does Harry know that the REP in the House placed his bill to a vote and it was a 264-173 defeat.

McConnell is saying "he is engaged with the one person that can sign the bill into law and that they are coming closer to a resolution. And he very optimistic that they will come to agreement to resolve the crisis for the American people very soon. "

So eventually the media catches up with Harry to ask him about both of these. What does Harry say? "That is not true." After retuning from a meeting with Pelosi and Obama in the White House. The White House does what this White House should have been doing for a long time....and made no comment to the matter.

That is reactionary and status quo on Harry Reids part.grin

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

I know it is always a plot to bring down Obama. A clue for you. We did not have to. He did it to himself.:-)

None todate has thought of using our Gold and Silver bullion to solve the financial crisis and debt issues. At least publicly, that I know of. Are you afraid of new ideas? Mr. Progressive?

In reality Dude....most liberals are very reactionary and status quo.

Watch. Your position on the Balance Budget Admendment in the Boehener bill is? Very negative because you think that it is there to limit Obama's spending. It is a REP scheme to control the President.

Poll out show that 75% of American wants the government to operate a balanced budget. The admendment was placed into the bill for the American people. To safe guard them from excessive spending in the future.

Here is a great idea...a progressive idea even....because few Constitutions in the world have such a clause. And you and Obama cannot embrace it. See Status quo and reactionary.

Strip off your posters of Che and Mao from the wall of your bedroom. Liberate yourself from the dogma of liberalism. You will feel better in the end.grin

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

Gold and silver have always been used to support financial instruments.
The silver dollar and the Gold backed dollar remember? See the gold and silver bullion cannot be dished out into a individual saving account.

But they can be used to support financial instruments like Treasury note and Government Bonds.

Surely that is what REP Barney Frank meant ....when he said "we need to change from using Real Estate as a valuation standard." Surely he meant we would return to the Gold and Silver standard in some form, yes? What else of historical value could the country offer to the world to colleratlize 14.3t worth of debt?

Just because some lowly and poorly educated TEA Party member figured it out, Dude should not embarress the rich and powerful DEMs in Washington. Remember that plummer fixing the BP oil leak. And Joe the plummer.

Just because soon from Cain to Bachmann to Grinrich to Palin a cry to use our gold and silver bullion as backing to new premium precious metal based Treasury Bills and US Government Bond to resolve the debt crisis and regain market confidence in the government of the United States will be heard....well you should be happy that country is starting to turn around.

From that we can peg our debt ceiling increase(s). Keep China from buying Treasure note (er will place human right standards into the sale of these Premium note and bonds).

Have any problems with capitolism winning another round, Dude?

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

I know Conrad. Here the REP of House place a piece of legislations that is more serious to the overall well being and future of the country on the table than Obama care.

Harry Reid and company dismiss it in 24 hours. The DEMs have become a part of crisis.....they want it here in the country and around the world. Crisis in the market place. Crisis in the oil markets. Crisis is financial markets. Crisis in government. Crisis on the streets.

They are the elected government. We respect that. They only have so much longer in office. Till then the Tea Party and REP are just fine.
They have brought up a number of new younger leaders that are vibrant and exciting.

When they dismiss the voice of the people....actually the voice of the majority of the people as they did in the rejection of this House bill. It make the 2012 election easier and placed the DEM senators clearly against the will of the people. Some 23 are up for relection in 2012. Only 3 are needed to be defeated for a TEA Party/REP majority in the Senate.

And only 1 Executive officer defeat is need for a complete control of the government in 2012. The DEMs hold control of this government by a mere 4 offices.

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

The House rejected Harry Reid Senate plan....246 to 173. We have have fumblist in the Washington. Only the courageous dive in for a loose ball like this one. This baby is bouncing all over the place.

First Boehner gets a hand on it. Then Nancy Pelosi has a stab....saying "we need to get back to reality"....duh like Nancy you were ever in reality?......and President Obama comes over the top for try. While Reid dives under neath to hit heads with McConnell.

This oblong ball is in mid field, so it is anyone ball. So some one will get it under control....the American people hope. Out of no where come Ron Paul and son, trying to pick a loose ball with a laterol. Only to the REP young guns tip it back to the ground. And it is booted once more.

Running into the scrum from distance sidelines is the REP Presidential hopefuls, lined up like Japanese Zeros on a final dive for a strafing run. Romney, Cain, Palin, Bachmann, Grinrich, Perry, Palenty, and Ruthford.....all have their eyes on the bouncing pig skin. Only Hillary Clinton is not get her uniform dirty on this one. Don't be afraid Hillary get into the game. In fact the Chinese are pushing you to.

With NFL season back on ...I thought you might like a football analogy to what is happening in Washington on the debt ceiling bills.grin

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

I just finished writing it up. Will get it in the mail today or tomorrow. It is a pretty simple statement and message that will resonate in the country. As the future President Cain will not use any funds from FICA revenues in his administration. That is $834b per year, scratched from the budget.

He leaves it to Congress hands to reinvest the FICA money into trust accounts and take it from the General Account. But he ain't spending it.Those not voting to legislate such trust account are very likely to see strong Tea Party opponents in the near future.grin

Dang sometime I amaze myself..................

DEMs have such a lock on Obama and what he can say......he cannot lead Cain on the issue. Same with Rhino REPs..............if Cain does this he has the issue to November of next year. It is a natural for him
He cuts the budget and solves Social Security at the same time.grin

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

Only US bookmaker vote.grin

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

Dude supporting a REP....................now that is a stretch of the imigination!

I do like the bit.....were he says...he would would lead the assault himself on bin Laden compound.grin I love morning morning QBs. They are great in warm up, on the sidelines and in the game until the first hit comes, then they are limping to the side lines.grin

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

A little breakfast, before I get serious.......this is so much fun. Am just a guy that enjoys my work.....grin

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