RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

He is not going to get impeached Conrad. He has played "it very safe" so that is not going happen. By nature, he is a very cautious man. That by Woodward and others.

But sometimes caution in the POUTS office means a lose of opportunity and just staying status quo. A Wilrow Wilson syndrome. All intellect and no common sense. No desire to really succeed.

He could have expanded the military, like his campaign promise. The surge in Afghanistan instead of 30K, could have been 50k or 60K. Could the Taliban survive that? Not with Petraus at the helm in AO and our new technologies in Stealth helo.

He could have ordered another 5 dozen stealth helo. Of both types. Think about that for a time. 60 stealth helo air lifting a 600+ man battalion to DZ deep within a country at night. To hit a target or compound complex? They don't know it untill the first boot is on the ground. That is serious stuff.

He could have fought for the F-35 program. The F-35 in three versions is heck of a program. They had 2000 ordered. That will all be cut back with the DoD cuts. The Navy and Marine Corp will be lucky to get 800-1000 F-35s.

It is clear...he does not want to control the air in combat or civilian operations. Ultimately that will cost allot of American lives.
I guess he needed high speed rail.....that they are still trying to find the ground breaking shovels for.

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RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

Does anyone know how much money it takes to end the FAA crisis?

$16m

Yes that is all. That is pocket change to Obama and the agency heads in DC.

So far 20,000 FAA employees have gotten forlough.....and 70 Contractors employee have been laid off the 200 jobs.

Yet Obama and Washington are going to let this go on till the REP and DEM come back in Sept. Costing 300m per day till then.

Here the DEMs were going to give Obama article 14 powers to raise the debt ceiling by trillions. And they cannot find him 16m for the FAA crisis!rolling on the floor laughing

That is a indecisive and ineffective POTUS.... Maybe Obama should take a loan from Greece to get the FAA going again.......grin

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

I am not saying Obama is a dictator. I use my words more carefully than that. Saying that he is very liberal and likely a Socialist.
That he borrowed from Russia the post break up economic model of Putin/Medvedev. To? Make crisis. In fact he called....the debt crisis.....'a manufactured crisis.'

But he ain't investigating to find out who manufactured it, it he?

If Obama were oppressive dictator, NATO would be launching cruise missile strikes and bombing runs into the US. We all know how much NATO and Europe stands up for freedom. liberty and human rights. One just has to ask Libyans on that.

So since Obama has pasted the European smell test......he cannot be a oppressive dictator.

Like the Chamber of Commerce is sponsoring alQeada Terrorist attacks in the US.....to bomb and blow up malls, banks, and other Chamber of Commerce business......LOL. I know it is for the insurance money. rolling on the floor laughing I know the Chamber sent alAlaki his bomb maker to make printer cartridge bombs....just increase sales of printer cartridges.rolling on the floor laughing

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

Think about it. What major economic thing did Putin and Company do?
They nationalize the Russian oil production an dindustry,yes? They arrested and convicted the major oil firms CEO for corruption charges and took control,yes?

What did Obama and company do? They took control of the auto industry by forcing out CEOs and buying up their stock with government loans.
Shut down the Gulf oil industry during the BP crisis. Took control of major banks in the stimulus buyouts.

What is the difference? It is the same model of government control. One by government force and legal actions....the other by government purchase and legal actions. The key here is "government legal actions".

Stalin's Russia was full of committees that executed 'government edicts' and made '5 year plans'....and then executed government "legal actions".

If living on 15K (the average per capitia in 2011 for a Russian) a pear is not major economic problem....

By the way, Russia has a flat tax and one of the lowest income tax rate in Europe. 2010 tax rate in Russia for individuals was 13%, 30% for non Russians. Corporate tax rate of 2% and local tax of no more 18%. No more than a total of 20%.

Russia is not trying to put a tax on the wealthiest 2% of the country.
And it is taxing the entire base the same.

Just maybe that is the reason Russia had a economic turn around? They made it profitable to work.

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

Only 4 quarters to go till the 2012 election, Conrad.

What do you think that those DoD contractors are going to this next year...knowing that President Obama has cut 600-800b from DoD budget over the next 10 years?

Lockheed just laid off 10,000. Most were union jobs.

But.........the other DoD Contractors know how to play politics and they know how to lobby Congress. Boeing, General Dynamic, Lockheed, Northrup Grumman, GE and a host of other DoD Contractors are going to wait till just before the election. Then in the next to the final quarter prior to the Election....lay off workers.

Western CA DEMs lead by Nancy Pelosi are going to be swamped with complaints to the Debt deal and the caused layoffs. All she can do is point to President Obama and the signed debt deal.

The water is coming into the ship now faster than the DoD Contractor made pumps can empty it out. Eventually those pumps are going to quit working.....on command from the bridge. LOL................they did not even do that on the Titanic.:-)

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

Why is the FAA falling a part under the Obama administration? FAA is going to lost 1.3b if the Chief Executive does not act before Sept.

With out of session, funding for the 200 FAA airport project has been cut. Now the lacking funding is also effecting other FAA operations.
Obama is pointing fingers at Congress. But Congress spent it time on the Debt deal. Now he has a blank check for all the new debt ceiling.

But he cannot make a executive office decision to resolve this issue?
doh

It is check......Mr. President....write the Check and put it into the
FAA account. Make a inner government loan from some agency to the FAA.
They are done all the time.

This is how miswarped Washington is. The President is willing to sit
in the Oval office and lose $300m per day. Slowing down the FAA. Just to poke a finger at the Congress and REP.

I say this. If you cannot make FAA work....then give the people, Air Force One and the 1000 corporate jets back that the has and let us fly into Air Force bases instead of the FAA controlled and managed commercial airports.

Happy number 50 Mr President. Now the keys to Air Force please? You are still young to use it.

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

Likely the reason Obama signed the debt deal......if the effect it has on the budget of DoD. He lost on all the other major parts...taxing rich was bumped out, a balanced budget admendment was placed in, only two years 2013 on a two step debt increase.

But he did clobber DoD spending from 600b to 800b over the next decade.

Meaning? He had already cut DoD in the past three years....twice. For about 100b each time. This time he got many of it long term development programs and its long term force restructering programs.

The DoD budget ...not related to the cost of wars....is the single biggest budget in Washington. But it is a big employer in the country.
Companies with long term DoD contracts are looking at if these contracts are going to continue.

Right now.....Lockheed just laid off. And many others DoD contractors will soon start. From there the ripple effect thru the country's unemployment will continue to bump up the 9.2 unemployment rate.
President Obama just signed away his 2012 hopes by signing this debt bill.

DEM will talk it of turning the economy around.....but it ain't going to happen without Defense jobs.

Like I said fellows.....we did not need to do a thing.....

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

Captian America is playing at the local theatre, Yes am going to go take it in and have some popcorn as the bad guys fall.

What got me....was in three countries.....Russia, China and another....they could not call the movie "Captain America". They, hollywood big wigs, still sent the movie out under s different name.
Suitible to the local market taste.

I say heck with that. If the Russians and Chinese cannot take a piece of Americana art with a American name on it. Then don't send it to them. Let them get the trailers of the movie off the net. Let them see a Captain America in their dreams.

But this Hollywood going for the big foreign markets and the big bucks they bring. They will stoop over for the Ruple and the Yuan, while pulling the name Captain America from the movie! What are these guys?
Americans? This Hollywood doing a bit of Americana censoring. And money grubbing.

I am going to see the movie.....but the popcorn will not taste as good.

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

I think with the Debt deal done....conservatives should sit back and watch how liberals treat the President. Why engage in the fray if the
opposition is attacking the President?

We can take the high road here. Defend the office and Democratic system. The Constitution and the country. While the liberal left that is seeing the President as mid road turn coat can do the slandering of him. Gesh they are being harder on Obama than on GWB.

Stewart, Maher, and others on the Left are calling him every :-)..........really we should just place their video in here and let Dude, Juan and others engage them. We don't have to wear out our computers and keyboards.

Good time to take a vacation. The REP primaries are beginning. The REP won the debt debate by such a margin, that the left is coughing and hacking at each other. We all know how good they are at finding fault.
We all know were that fault is going to find a home.

To Dude, Juan and others.....the question is.....do they join the left eviscerating the President? Or do they stay the course......and back him?

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

Right at the time of the debt bill being signed......72 financial, gov't, DoD and UN secure severers were hacked into.

MacCafee....reported the intrusions to various governments around the globe. All indications is that the hacking come from .............. ..............................China.

Government investigators are looking into the data of the hacking at present. They are calling it...the biggest security breach of all time.

But why would China want to hack these sites just as the debt bill is being signed?

Likely officials in these site are getting details of the bill and it impact to their organizations. So China wants to know .....say if DoD
cuts are going to be a drastic and Penatta is saying. Or if IMP is going to continue to get US funding under the new debt bill. Were are those cut and were is the debt increase going.

China wants to know all that info. So...hey why not just ask? China does not like to ask or wait for public discloser. China wants the insider information. That is why WTO organization should consider placing new restriction on China.

Also China wants the internatiponal community in crisis mode. Having your inside information hacked when a big deal going down does that.
It causes lose of confidence in the financial markets. China wants that.

But this is why China is a bad risk to do business with or to allow to purchase government debt. Would you continue to email someone that is hacking your computer? Not if you like privacy. And not to have your computer contents spread on the internet.

China continued intrusion into the world's secure and financial sites has to be disconcerning to the Obama administration. Here a debt deal was done and the President got a another blank check to fill out. Now China wants to alter the zeros and the payee. The payee suddenly become Chinese middle man firms. The zero much bigger than the debt ceiling increase.

Doing little for stimulating the American economy. But doing everything to stimulate the Chinese economy.

China did not make that statement that the American economy was a ticking bomb to the world's economy without having some ways to shorten the fuse. Chinese hacking is one of them.

Am wonder here if they (the Chinese) got Dude's bank aocount in Coopenhaggen? If Dude shows up at the US embassy seeking political asylum for political caused poverty. I vote we let him in. We
just make him go thru the 6 years process before he can vote. It is fair, you know Dude and is the law.grin

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

I guess...Wild Bill goes after the present White House with both 6 guns a blazing. And he was not taking prisoners.

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opps

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

For all that post into this thread.....this is a have to see video by a US Marshal. He trained with US Secret Service agents that told him about how they were treated by by various different Presidents and White Houses.

If the click thru does not come up. Google it.

You ain't going to like it Dude.

Also read the comments to Wild Bill's video. This got people heated.

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RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

This is where international geo politic with Pakistan turn into looney tunes.

Pakistan can have 400 Taliban and alQeada base camps in the tribal regions for sending death, destruction and mayhem into Afghanistan.
Pakistan can have bin Laden in a military city sitting within in 5 miles of its version of West Point. That is almost walking distance for bin Laden to take courses there. Pakistan can explode over the bin Laden raid with anger at the US. Pakistan can turn the LET loose on India. Killing 167 in the Mumbia India attack.

But.............

Pakistani Islamic Terrorist getting caught in providing assistance to the terrorist attack in Western China that kills 11......will get the head of the ISI to China within 48 hours of the event.

To..............

Tell the Chinese that "We cannot allow Pakistani territory to be used
for any activity against any neighbor, especially a close ally like China."

Pakistan considers China....'a all weather ally'...while dear old America is sitting on the wall flower on far side of the globe.

grin doh

As I said it is 'looney tunes' time in Central Asia.

What is the US then? Chopped liver? We have been giving Pakistan more aid and assistance than China has. Yet we got kids coming home in body bags from attacks by alQeada and the Taliban that base in Pakistan.

The Pakistani Government cannot offer a word of apology to the US? To India? To Afghanistan? To Europe? After literal 1000s have been killed
by their hosting of Islamic terrorists. China has 11 killed, and the Pakistani government is there in a heart beat to smooth things over and apologize.

As I said earlier the Chinese and Pakistan government relationship
is a close one. And Pakistan knows that China will handle Islamic terrorism a whole lot differently than the US does. It will be Pakistani coming home in body bags. A lot of them. China has crossed those borders into Pakistan and India several times in the past.

By the way....China is saying that the Pakistani government and country is chaotic as well. China does not like Chaotic. China may send troops in to solve Pakistani choatic nature. And it will not be a mere raid to get a terrorist leader. It will be lot longer than a 40 minutes. And whole allot more than a Navy Seal team.

I think that the Islamic terrorist in Pakistan....are writing a IOU that the country of Pakistan cannot pay. China will play rough, very rough to collect.

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

The Chinese have now spoken about the debt bill......

"failed to defuse the US Debt bomb" says the official China new agency
Xinhua. And that China will continue to divest herself of US dollar investments.

Interesting.

Maybe China will not buy the debt that approved under the debt bill. And that is a reason the markets are still falling.

Looks like China is not happy with the present US administration.

So what now? A little Chinese hokie pokie? Yes. Here is what happens. China has been buying the past us debt via China middle man investors. While the official position of the Chinese government is that it is divesting. Unless it gives order for them to halt trading, this is just geo political gaming on the Chinese part. So don't get your dander up. The Chinese will still buy the debt.

But for the second time.....China rating of US treasury note dropped again.

Dude...it just seems to me....that China wants the US to fail more than the REP do. REP signed on to the debt bill, remember?

So the Russians have us as a 'international pirrahna' and the Chinese have us as a'ticking time bomb' in the world of high finance. It is nice to be loved. With such stellar assessments of the United State, it is a wonder people give any credence to what the Chinese and Russian say.

RE: Terrorism / War on Terror

I will give it go, Vinny.

Bin Laden raid was a big step in demantling a global terrorist organization of alQeada. But pieces of it and the sentiment for it are still in Islam and in the world. Just a few days ago, in Cairo.....
a moderate demonstration was hijacked by Islamist and one was shouting..."all Muslims are bin Laden". I don't believe that. But you clearly see the unfounded hate there.

Vinny very honestly. We have had intell post 911 of 1000s of attacks many were compromised and disrupted. It is a very real war. It will not end because of bin Laden raid. But if we had done nothing after 911, our entire society and country would be in total disruption today.

Personaly, I do see Anders Bieivik attack in Norway as terrorism. But I think it was for anarchist reasons. Manifesto or no manifesto, he has been espounsing a total change in European and Norgewian government according to his attroney. He made demands for such. But his not talking about a Christian revolution. And the law enforcement cannot find trace of his cells.

Breivik's manifesto was largely taken from unabomber's (Ted Kscyneski's) manifesto. The unabomber manifesto was not a Christian religious manifesto. So I think you are thin on saying it was Christian terrorism. But it certainly was anarchist terrorism.

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RE: Is Obama a Socialist

Think about the Obama administration reaction to the Sherry Sherrod story for a moment.

Sheerrod is big Obama supporter. She goes to the NCAAP conference. Speaks and says some very condensing things towards whites. A journalist picks it up and reports it online.

Shirley Sherrod is removed from her job within 15 hours of that story breaking. Even thought the story was largely out of context. It was a assistant to the Department of Agriculture head that did the firing.
The assistant did that directly from the White House. Not the Department of Agri in DC.

So what I am saying?

Saying the Obama administration had the Assistant come to the White House so they would know that the firing had been done and how it had been done. Rob Emanuel or some other high WH staffers was standing in the room with the Assistant as the calls were made.

The decision to fire this woman...was made within the White House by a small group of people. It did not go thru a review process of the Depart of Agri.

Now go back to the definition of Socialism. A small group of people controlling the lives of people. Shirly Sherrod know what socialism is.

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

LOL.... "borrowing deep down in American society"....Dude do you know how much that sounds like ..... far right Senator McCarthy statements of Communism in the 1950s? LOL.......................wow dunno

Remember I said today's liberals are reactionary and status quo driven?
You just proved my point.

MCarthy for the younger CSer that are reading this...leada campaign of Cngressional Hearing into Coummunist that were int eh country. At a point were the Cold war was steaming.....that the atomic bomb sscrets had been given to Russia only a few years earlier. McCarthy being a investigation in left wing movements within the country. He cut a broad path thru the art of Hollywood and New York....dragging actors and writers into appear before his hearing.

Now dude talks like McCarthy did. That REP are attempting to fail President Obama government. LOL.........more DEMs voted against the
deficit bill than REP did in both the House. REP are burrowing into the deep recesses of America. We have a right to go anyplace we want to here. Except for classified local of the military and government.

I take a vacation to Dollywood, Hollywood, or Woodywood....I don't need Dude approval. Nor Washington's. I take a trip to to the beach, I find a secret service agent there taking down license plates numbers, I am not happy. They got other things to be doing.

Since we are on it. Guess who is now talking about going to Israeli like methods of passenger security inspections at airports? Yes, you got it. TSA and the Obama administration. I just heard it on the news yesterday.I guess they found the $7 per passenger charges were acceptable.

RE: Is Obama a Socialist

I am saying that some socialism functions. Take communist Chinese as a example. It functions very well. It is horrible on human rights issues. But you want 1000 shirts made. The Chinese can supply them to you. That is functioning.

Were as what we increasingly see here in the US.....is non functioning
government. From the examples cited earlier. But take the Debt crisis.
A reason we are in a debt crisis is partly do to this non functioning and broken Washington government. Try ordering 1000 shirts from the White House, you will not get them.grin Or they will send you pants instead. grin

RE: Is Obama a Socialist

The problem with Obama's socialism is that it is not even very good socialism.

Today large banks in the US bull doze 100s of foreclosed homes. Frist Obama's socialism failed to end the foreclosers, yes? The bank bailouts. Then the banks faced with fiscal loses in having unoccupied homes....decides to bull dose them and end thier use as dwelling. When you have high unemployment and many living in car and on the street.
Eventually how owns the piece of property? The town or city does. To?
To make a small park or doggies walk with. Totally outside of its growth plan.

At least in Russia socialism eventually got people places to live. You might have 10 families on the same floor in the People's Apartment building. But it was dry and warm in the wintertime. There was a big park for play and walks nearby.

But that is not all. The FAA.....Federal Aviation Authority begins to lay off 1000s of air traffic controllers....as the agency 'has run out of money'. Let them sleep more on the job and pay them less.grin
But Obama's socialism cannot even get the agency funds for making the
payroll.

He can give 6 billion to global warming on a trip to Coopenhaggen.....but he cannot meet the payroll of the FAA? You tell me. I can breath easily today. But if I take a plane ride I might end up in a accident. And they are having accidents related to FAA staffing issues.

If it is not one crisis.....it is another. Even socialism can stop a crisis once in while when it gets lucky. But Obama's socialism is even failing and in crisis.

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

What is the matter with a balanced budget?

See here is what I think. I think that when you have a trillion+ dollar government...much of that trillion goes out the country. Never really stimulating this economy. Rather aiding, securing, feeding foreign parties. In other words a global kind of 'wealth redistribution.'

A very socialist and communistic concept from post WWII Russia and the WARSAW Pact. See with the debt ceiling....comes this massive foreign expenditure that President Obama hopes to make. Remember he authored the Millinium program for the UN. That surely was a global wealth redistribution.

It would be bad enough if the debt was all used here in the US. At least then you have American economic stimulus. But it will not be. Obama's wars in Afghanistan and Libya have to be paid for. Nation building in Iraq and Afghanistan. Global warning projects in China. Food and energy for NKorea. Payments interest and principle of the debt with China and Russia. On and on here...........

So much of this new debt will go over seas. Never really happening the economy here. The proof of that is...today's unemployment rate at 9.2%.

RE: Is Obama a Socialist

But Communist Russia was the epitimy of Socialism, yes? So when discussing Socialism it is fair to mention Russia in the conversation.

No, Socialism can mean many grey policy areas that eventual fall into the darkness of a Stalin' Russia. A slippery slope........where you have nice and kind socialism at first then a Communist dictatorship at the end.

Today's socialist doesn't want to admit that their heritage began in Russia, with Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Trotsky. Who wants to be connected to those placing millions into Siberian Gulags? Who can blame them? Today's liberal and nice socialist would never do that. Till you think of Communist China and its 1000s of political and religious prisoners.

But then Communist China is not socialist either. It is just some sort of modern geo political experiment of a nice small group rule over the majority. That can have a Tiamemmen square massacre, because they were nice and benevolent to some protesters for democracy. But let us not call it socialism. Because all modern socialists have washed their hands of their nasty heritage. We all know that........

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

Nancy Pelosi took a "Gutsy Position" on the debt vote in the House. That according sited article. Article went on to say that Nancy is no ideologue. She knew that she did not have the votes to stop the bill.

Well only 1/2 (95 votes) of the DEM voted for the bill. All the REP including the TEA Party voted for it. So what gives?

If you add 95 DEM (1/2 of the DEM caucus) with the 88 Tea Party at 183.
You short only 30 votes short of blockage. Had the Tea Party voted no, Nancy had the DEM in position to block the bill. After is was clear the Tea Party was block voting for the passage, she likely released them to vote for it.

But Nancy and liberal in Congress.....are unhappy. Unhappy that President Obama spends time with Boehener on the golf course and unhappy the President Obama gave position away to the REP. That he is not more sever with the REP.

Nancy delivered all the DEM needed for passage and not one more than she needed. They feel this debt bill is a REP win.

But the problem in Washington politics....the we vs they attitude instead of the WE, the People attitude.

Of Nancy's liberal caucus many come to public vote in 2012. 45-50 of the block on 95 that did vote nea on this bill will. A 2013 Congress with a new Tea Party and REP canidates filling those 45-50 seats, would sure make things easier for all concerned.

It is clear that these 95 don't support the President or the Country.
Even the Tea Party members eventually voted for the bill's passage for it was the right thing to do for the country. Rather they follow DEM dogma set out by Nancy Pelosi and other liberal thinkers.


RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

Let us put some numbers to your thought that Victor Putina has been great for the Russian economy.

Russian unemployment in 1993............was 5.2% (it went form there to a high of 13.1 in 1999
1993...........was $3.5K
Russian GNP rate in 1993................was -15.0%
it from there to a peak in 2000 of 10%


Russian unemployment in 2011............is 7.5%
Russian per cap income in 2011..........is $15.1K US
Russian GNP rate in 2011.................is 4%

Russia has done a slow 20 year turn around. Sluggish at times, at best. Do you think that President Obama is using Russia as his model for economic recovery?

Numbers from the CIA fact book and World Bank country indicator
Russia best years since the break up were in 2000 and 2001.
Its GNP has risen dramatic in the last 10 years on petro dollars.
Funny how President Obama does not want the US to share in that wealth.

RE: Most powerful and dangerous man on earth you never heard of

This is what the President Of the US wanted. He wanted the debt ceiling increase. It is still his choice when to place the debt on the market or if to. So the decision to make the dollar worthless? Is whos?

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

So what are other around the world saying about the US debt deal?

Victor Putin of Russia has special words for it. Saying that the US
is the "pirraha of the International community living off other nations with its debt and dollar".

Thank you, Victor. Let me pass that comment on the White House. Not that much of a reply would come from the POTUS. He might apologize for GWB invading Islamic countries. But a apologize for selling the US to foreign countries you will not hear.

And yes does Russia .....your "new Russia"....have holding in this pirranha of the international community? Yes it does. Much of your foreign holding are in the US. But of course in new Russia, you will invest in the Russian people. While sending billions of your petro rev to investments in the US. The Pirrahna thanks you. Can we nibble a little more on your left foot?

So what is this 'new Russia'? Well according to you. This is the rebuilding of Russia for the Russia people. You mean they will finally get fairly priced heating oil during the winter time to them? How nice of you. So Russia is going to start this massive building program all across Russia. Or is Russia just going to dress up Moscow and St. Petersburg with some more condo and villas for the Russian wealthy?

Somehow how I think that it is the later. We are talking about the country that has more yachts over 35foot in length than any other in the world, yes? But most of the Doctors in the country get less than $600 dollar month in salary. Russian democracy and capitolism at work there.laugh Please tell me how you qualify for a Yacht purchase on $600 on a month?grin Not even American boat makers will sell you a yacht for with that income.

This is the build for Mr. Putin run for the Russian Presidency many are saying. One has to wonder what his protege President Medvedev think of that. But Putin supposedly has a 70% approval rating in the country. Please note "supposedly"....no poll name was mention.

Someday, I would like to know the Russian why......why Russian troops stop 30 miles short of the Georgian Capitol. See I know the real reason. And it has lot to do with the Russian rich and those petro dollar investments in the US. From there I will let the reader figure it out.grin

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

Do it the way FDR originally designed it. With trust accounts that doesn got into the Government General Fund. Once the FICA rev....are in the General Fund they are subject to paying government debts.

So they would make these loans that accummulated to being 4.2t.

So ....just cut the 835b that FICA pays in....send to trust accounts that bear interest. There it is safe from the Congress. And avialable to pay pit the monthly social security checks.

Here is what is going to happen. Obama is going to sell the first step of debt. China will buy 35% of it. That goes into the General Fund. From the General Fund....they pay the interest on the 4.2t and the monthly social security.

So really Social Security today is living off the benevolence of the Chinese. It does not stand on it own feet. China decides it does not want to be so kind hearted, what then? You got a lot of senior living on the streets and applying for food stamps.

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

We can start with fixing that pay Paul from Peters Social Security accounting the Jimmy Carter and the DEM have used to tap the SS for 4.2t.
That is a long term future problem that needs to be fixed. DEMs with a trillion dollar debt increase will use the Social Security Rev to pay for it.

RE: GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al

You are up to 5% on the poll from 3%, Dude. Closing the gap I see....grin

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