Flint, Michigan

I live about 60 miles from this city. A few months ago I heard about the lead problem they had with their water. In 2014 they switched over from getting their water through Detroit, which came from the Great Lakes, to getting their water through the Flint River. Because the water was different from the new Flint River source, it needed to be treated. However, the city never treated it. What happen was this Flint River water began to erode the lead in the city infrastructure's pipes and in the pipes of homes who have not updated their pipes from lead, usually homes that were built in the 1960's and older.

About 4 to 6 months after the water source was switched, residents of Flint started to complain about the discolored water coming out of their faucets and the bad smell. There were doctors and other water professionals who had actual tests that showed the water contained high levels of lead in it. Some people's blood was tested showing that they had 3x the toxic level of blood in their system. This was all brought to the government's attention which lead to nothing being done about it. In fact, there were high level state government officials, in mid-2015, that held meetings telling the Flint residents to "calm down" there is nothing wrong with your water.

When hearing about this on my local radio station, it was a highly frustrating situation to hear. Who was going to be held responsible for this? Why did this go on for so long before anything is being done about it? How could this happen in the first place? How is this problem going to get fixed?

Now this is a national story....THANKFULLY! Essentially, the whole city of Flint's water supply is unusable. When questioning our Republican governor when he first heard about the lead problem, he says he cannot remember. Even to this day, the governor is still dragging his feet on correcting this problem. Many people have no source of clean water to drink.

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Hello Teenager. grin
I have been to flint before! I still remember the old buildings in the town there
Hello SR,

Yes. It is very sad....disturbing, to me, that it went on so long.


And yes about all the great movies out. I watched 4 in the past 5 days and there are a couple more I would like to see yet.

Thanks for your comment. :)

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Hello Call,

I have been living in my new location for the last 4 years. I was from a very rural area and always heard about the high crime rate in Flint, so I never really went there until this past year or so. I have driven through there a couple of times and have been to its outskirts and suburbs.

Thanks Call.. :)
hi! ....babykiss wink
*....is the next drawing. Not sure how the word "not" got in there. grin
yes....sweetheart, i am watching the tv news laugh bouquet
Well....if you are going to get a little cut of it. Perhaps you have some numbers? I need 5 numbers...anywhere from 1 to 69....and then 1 more number from that same range.
Hello Ken,

Thanks for the historical background with plumbing. I was not aware that some states prohibited any sort of lead for drinking water. Here in Michigan, I thought that was okay...of course I have seen everything else you mentioned...but I have not heard of wood. That is interesting about Rome though.

I am not sure what sort of chemical they should have treated the Flint River water with before running it through the pipes, but you might be right with the chemicals you have mentioned...at least it makes sense. I find it hard to believe that the local government did not know to treat the new water before running it through. But, who knows I guess.

In my opinion, it is unbelievable that this happen in the first place. I grew up always drinking well water...of course having it tested to make sure it was good. Now living in a bigger city where city water is our only choice, I only drink bottled water now. Showering with city water even makes me a little uneasy. Maybe I should move back to my well water? :)

Thanks Ken for sharing your input.

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Oh I am already lined up with the Revenant, Joy, The Big short and Hateful Eight, Johnny.

On the water case, I hope they will give some kind of compensation for estimated health damage the people incurred.sad flower
Johnny
Is the people there in Flint, Still paying the Water Bill?___yawn
Heyyy Jooohnnnnyyy!!!! head banger

Whatcha doing up so late? Don't you ever sleep? doh laugh
Flint, Michigan?

Are there stones near the river there. Are they called Flint-stones? laugh okay, just kidding

You say you're used to well water? I remember, a friend of mine who likes mixed drinks at bars once told me that some bar was serving Well Drinks. Whatever that means. wine

It's been raining a lot here lately, the last few days and weeks.. months.

If you need some fresh water there, maybe I can sell you some bottles of water from here and send them to you, just like you were going to do for me when we had a drought here. grin drinking
Sheesh! Johnny,

Every time I comment on your blogs, you log out and don't reply.

Okay, I understand... maybe you got a phone call or you went out for a service station hamburger. blues

Have a good night and fun day.

See ya next time. cheers
Sorry Robert...on the phone right now. :(....or :) depending on how one looks at it. lol
Johnny?

You still on that "hot girlfriend experience" phone call at 5.99 a minute? laugh

Are you setting up an appointment with the seductress phone lady for a date and time to lay some pipe tomorrow or the next day? confused

Aww-rrright! Go for it, Johnny!

Good night, it's late here. I gotta get some rest, and sleep with my pillows that have photos of CS ladies silk screened on them. rolling on the floor laughing

See ya! cheers
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I think with lead and its toxicity, its the valence state thats the key. Lead in its elemental state isnt as bad as lead phosphate, which I believe is what the Romans added to their wine as a flavour enhancer.
I perked my ears up when my news brought up plight of these poor people.
I have a conditon called C.O.P.D just diagnosed 2 year back. They blamed it on being a smoker in past. I stopped smoking 8year ago, they said damage already done.
I worked soldering circuit boards before the time they outlawed lead in solder or the exctracion of air on soldering iron, that was brought our later, I believe lead breathed in at that time has caught up with me, it is a dangerouse thing as it lies in body as body cannot get rid of it. So what long term affect this will have on these poor people is yet to be seen.
As always people in power can not seem to admit to a mistake so there for cannot mend what they do not admit too.
I hope for residants this is cleared up soon for them.
Johnny I'm originally from Michigan but I don't recall being to Flint but I've been to Detroit though.

Flint got their water through Detroit which came from the Great Lakes wow I never knew that.

Oh Good-ole Republican Rick Snyder aren't you guys lucky.Gee I wonder what former Gov Jennifer Granholm would had done.


Rick Snyder can't recall the lead problem yeah I'll bet he can't.Typical politician selective memory. giggle
I can't see how it could be anything other than deliberate, the very first thing you do when considering switching water supply is test it for PH, bacteria\harmful elements etc, river water is rarely ideal & would certainly need treatment before consumption, therefore if they decided not to treat it how can it be anything but deliberate dunno the UK switched from lead pipe to copper\plastic sometime in the 1950's, though not normally such a problem as most of the country has hard water, the harmful effects of lead are well documented, for any authority to put soft water through lead pipes I would have thought has to amount to criminal negligence.
SR, I just seen all but Joy on your list. They were all pretty good. As usual with Quintan, his movie The Hateful Eight was interesting. It is nearly 3 hours long but you do not notice its length once watching it. A sign to me that it was pretty good. :)

But with compensation, the host/guest on the radio show I listened to figured there were going to be many law suits. Hopefully fairness prevails and they do get what they deserve.
Pepps....that is a good question. I would not be surprised if they are still receiving water bills. However, I am not sure how many of the residents are paying it. The government is just starting to provide the citizens with bottled water and bringing in tankers, but this assistance is only reaching a small portion of the population. They say that many people living in Flint do not have cars so reaching this healthy water is difficult. In other words, they still may have to use that bad water. dunno
Robert....my mom let me stay up extra late tonight. rolling on the floor laughing I better clarify, I do not live with my mom and am just joking. rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
laugh Robert....that is hilarious. I had heard about California and the rain they are getting. Good for you guys. Hopefully it doesn't wash you guys away. If so, Pepps and I could probably sell you guys some tents. laugh

I don't know the history of Flint but it probably got its name from the flint stone. I know there is a lot of Native American history around here.
LOL,

It's okay Johnny. Admit to nothing.

I wont tell anyone anyways.
I can keep a secret, sort of, maybe , kind of sideways. grin rolling on the floor laughing cheers
Johnny,

maybe you can help a few single ladies there in Flint, and lay some pipe for them. laugh

Just saying, you know, if you're trying to be helpful to them, and yourself. laugh cheers
Ken...to my knowledge, I do not think the pipes themselves are made of lead. I think it is the lead they used in the solder. But, maybe some of the pipes are solid lead. But anyway, the lead from the solder is what they are claiming is the culprit.

One of the guest on the radio show I was listening to last night was saying that because the pipes were put in the ground such a long time ago, nobody really kept record of what sort of pipes were used. She was saying, chance are if you called your water supply company they would not know what type of pipes you have near your home. So maybe there are some solid lead pipes. dunno
Wow Pat....the Romans put a form of lead in their wines? Hmmm, maybe, like Ken mentioned, that might have played a role in its downfall.

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Geez Robert....I am on the phone again. My step-nephew just called...not only that, I need to get ready for a meeting I have in an hour. But, I will be on a little bit later on today. Sorry again. :( ....or :) laugh


I like these phones that you can turn the speak-phone up high....I can shower and talk on the phone at the same time. rolling on the floor laughing
Johnny,

If I don't remember correctly, I thought you told me before that the pipes at your present home are made of KEMP, plastic kemp or something like that. confused laugh
Hello Red,

I am guessing what you are talking about is like welding where the fumes from the heat rise up into your face. Welding has horrible effect to the lungs from breathing that stuff in. In my opinion, I would not be surprised if later you found out your C.O.P.D. was caused from your job, but have fun, I would think you employer would not want to be held liable.

Thanks for sharing.
Cc...what you are saying is exactly what I thought too. mumbling


Thanks for your post.
Z...to believe that it was deliberately done, one would have to believe the people who done it have absolutely no sense of remorse, ethics, or humanity in their bones. I know these type of people exist and they say that these people thrive in business and politics. confused dunno

There are locals in Flint protesting for Snyder's arrest. Hopefully the bureaucratic levels can be dissected enough to expose who was really at fault...but I doubt it....those are there for a reason.

Thanks Z
Hmmm Ken...

What you say does make sense. There were people talking about how they had rashes and they were losing hair. One lady says she has to wear fake eyelashes now because when she lost them all, they didn't grow back the way they were before. For the water to be as discolored as much as they described, I agree with you. Solder joints, I don't think, would do that much destruction.

Thanks Ken
jOHN

Sounds like a little plumbing prolem...lead being the problem due to leaching...well Ken has a good knowledge base and sounds like he has solved the mystery...professor

Do Not Drink The Tap Water In Flint...uh oh scold
Hello L.L.,

Thanks for your post. No tap water here...from there. :)


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No one forced them to drop the Detroit Water the City of Flint did it on there own, thought they could save money and not pay Detroit, people of Flint they should of checked into the river water more first before jumping the gun, before they made the switch, now what with all going on and people getting sick after all this time, it is always easier to blame someone else, how about the Mayor of Flint, he was all Gun Ho for the change, we all know at the time more money in his pocket,Wonder how much money he made off the deal or how big of a raise he go among other's,
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